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From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
To: Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com>
Cc: Dmitry Safonov <dsafonov@virtuozzo.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Dmitry Safonov <0x7f454c46@gmail.com>,
	Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Andrei Vagin <avagin@gmail.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [Q] Figuring out task mode
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 16:54:52 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALCETrXTSBZEWkyiu3ZTbFnT69nT5K5dC9SFtHft-Q+rdJ2FiQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170321180525.GC21564@uranus.lan>

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com> wrote:
> /I renamed the mail's subject/
>
> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:45:57AM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>> >> +             task_pt_regs(current)->orig_ax |= __X32_SYSCALL_BIT;
>> >>               current->thread.status &= ~TS_COMPAT;
>> >
>> > Hi! I must admit I didn't follow close the overall series (so can't
>> > comment much here :) but I have a slightly unrelated question -- is
>> > there a way to figure out if task is running in x32 mode say with
>> > some ptrace or procfs sign?
>>
>> You should be able to figure out of a *syscall* is x32 by simply
>> looking at bit 30 in the syscall number.  (This is unlike i386, which
>> is currently not reflected in ptrace.)
>
> Yes, syscall number will help but from criu perpspective (until
> Dima's patches are merged into mainlie) we need to figure out
> if we can dump x32 tasks without running parasite code inside,
> ie via plain ptrace call or some procfs output. But looks like
> it's impossible for now.
>
>> Do we actually have an x32 per-task mode at all?  If so, maybe we can
>> just remove it on top of Dmitry's series.
>
> Don't think so, x32 should be set upon exec and without Dima's series
> it is immutable I think.

What I mean is: why should the kernel care about per-task X32 state
*at all*?  On top of Dmitry's series, TIF_X32 appears to be used to
determine which vDSO to map, which mm layout to use, *and nothing
else*.  Want to write a trivial patch to get rid of it entirely?

Ideally we could get rid of mm->context.ia32_compat, too.  The only
interesting use it has is MPX, and we should probably instead track
mm->context.mpx_layout and determine *that* from the prctl() bitness.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
To: Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com>
Cc: Dmitry Safonov <dsafonov@virtuozzo.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Dmitry Safonov <0x7f454c46@gmail.com>,
	Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Andrei Vagin <avagin@gmail.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [Q] Figuring out task mode
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 16:54:52 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALCETrXTSBZEWkyiu3ZTbFnT69nT5K5dC9SFtHft-Q+rdJ2FiQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170321180525.GC21564@uranus.lan>

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com> wrote:
> /I renamed the mail's subject/
>
> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:45:57AM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>> >> +             task_pt_regs(current)->orig_ax |= __X32_SYSCALL_BIT;
>> >>               current->thread.status &= ~TS_COMPAT;
>> >
>> > Hi! I must admit I didn't follow close the overall series (so can't
>> > comment much here :) but I have a slightly unrelated question -- is
>> > there a way to figure out if task is running in x32 mode say with
>> > some ptrace or procfs sign?
>>
>> You should be able to figure out of a *syscall* is x32 by simply
>> looking at bit 30 in the syscall number.  (This is unlike i386, which
>> is currently not reflected in ptrace.)
>
> Yes, syscall number will help but from criu perpspective (until
> Dima's patches are merged into mainlie) we need to figure out
> if we can dump x32 tasks without running parasite code inside,
> ie via plain ptrace call or some procfs output. But looks like
> it's impossible for now.
>
>> Do we actually have an x32 per-task mode at all?  If so, maybe we can
>> just remove it on top of Dmitry's series.
>
> Don't think so, x32 should be set upon exec and without Dima's series
> it is immutable I think.

What I mean is: why should the kernel care about per-task X32 state
*at all*?  On top of Dmitry's series, TIF_X32 appears to be used to
determine which vDSO to map, which mm layout to use, *and nothing
else*.  Want to write a trivial patch to get rid of it entirely?

Ideally we could get rid of mm->context.ia32_compat, too.  The only
interesting use it has is MPX, and we should probably instead track
mm->context.mpx_layout and determine *that* from the prctl() bitness.

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-21 23:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-21 16:37 [PATCHv2] x86/mm: set x32 syscall bit in SET_PERSONALITY() Dmitry Safonov
2017-03-21 16:37 ` Dmitry Safonov
2017-03-21 17:17 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2017-03-21 17:17   ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2017-03-21 17:45   ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-03-21 17:45     ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-03-21 18:05     ` [Q] Figuring out task mode Cyrill Gorcunov
2017-03-21 18:05       ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2017-03-21 23:54       ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
2017-03-21 23:54         ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-03-21 18:09     ` [PATCHv2] x86/mm: set x32 syscall bit in SET_PERSONALITY() Dmitry Safonov
2017-03-21 18:09       ` Dmitry Safonov
2017-03-21 18:40       ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2017-03-21 18:40         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2017-03-21 18:51         ` hpa
2017-03-21 18:51           ` hpa
2017-03-21 19:07           ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2017-03-21 19:07             ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2017-03-21 19:20             ` hpa
2017-03-21 19:20               ` hpa
2017-03-21 19:19         ` Dmitry Safonov
2017-03-21 19:19           ` Dmitry Safonov
2017-03-21 19:24           ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2017-03-21 19:24             ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2017-03-21 19:34             ` Dmitry Safonov
2017-03-21 19:34               ` Dmitry Safonov
2017-03-21 19:31       ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-03-21 19:31         ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-03-21 19:34         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2017-03-21 19:34           ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2017-03-21 19:42         ` Dmitry Safonov
2017-03-21 19:42           ` Dmitry Safonov
2017-03-21 20:04           ` Dmitry Safonov
2017-03-21 20:04             ` Dmitry Safonov
2017-03-21 18:49     ` hpa
2017-03-21 18:49       ` hpa
2017-03-21 17:27 ` hpa
2017-03-21 17:27   ` hpa
2017-03-21 17:27   ` Dmitry Safonov
2017-03-21 17:27     ` Dmitry Safonov

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