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From: Dmitry Baryshkov <dbaryshkov@gmail.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Richard Purdie <richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@kernel.org>,
	Robert Jarzmik <robert.jarzmik@free.fr>,
	Daniel Mack <daniel@zonque.org>,
	Haojian Zhuang <haojian.zhuang@gmail.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ales Bardorfer <ales@i-tech.si>,
	Ales Snuparek <snuparek@atlas.cz>, Alex Osborne <ato@meshy.org>,
	Alex Osborne <bobofdoom@gmail.com>,
	Dirk Opfer <dirk@opfer-online.de>, Ian Molton <spyro@f2s.com>,
	Lennert Buytenhek <kernel@wantstofly.org>,
	Marek Vasut <marek.vasut@gmail.com>,
	Michael Petchkovsky <mkpetch@internode.on.net>,
	Nick Bane <nick@cecomputing.co.uk>,
	Paul Parsons <lost.distance@yahoo.com>,
	Philipp Zabel <philipp.zabel@gmail.com>,
	Sergey Lapin <slapin@ossfans.org>,
	Tomas Cech <sleep_walker@suse.cz>,
	Linus Walleij <linusw@kernel.org>, Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/27] ARM: pxa: remove unused board files
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2023 12:06:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALT56yN9aBn+s5rFB1yBdhGtYa6t=c0JeNmy0T=ckh3bNPgh2Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0690759c-8e74-429e-a3f9-c20aaac9c92f@app.fastmail.com>

пт, 6 янв. 2023 г. в 11:47, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>:
>
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023, at 23:45, Richard Purdie wrote:
> > On Thu, 2023-01-05 at 23:16 +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> >> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023, at 18:05, Richard Purdie wrote:
> >> > On Thu, 2023-01-05 at 17:50 +0200, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
> >>
> >> In the long run, I expect we will remove all the remaining
> >> legacy boardfiles and only keep the DT support. Ideally
> >> if someone is motivated to convert spitz to DT, supporting
> >> corgi the same way is also easy.
> >
> > Personally, I'm not that interested in tosa (or poodle/collie).

I think I was one of the last devs having interest in tosa. It worked
mostly fine except the offline charging.

> >
> > The other zaurus devices are interesting for me as I know the platform,
> > they have qemu emulation, there are set of devices which are similar
> > but also have differences and there were one of the original targets
> > for OpenEmbedded and Yocto Project. I did quite a bit of work to get
> > one kernel which could run on multiple devices, as best you could at
> > the time! I'd actually forgotten about the qemu emulation.
> >
> > There is a need for better automated testing around DT in OE/YP and
> > this is making me wonder about a few potential ideas.
>
> Ok
>
> > Is there any conversion to DT you can easily point at as an example of
> > the kinds of changes needed?
>
> Robert Jarzmik and Daniel Mack worked on the conversion of the
> PXA platform to DT. Daniel contributed the port for Raumfeld,
> which should be complete, while Robert worked on more driver
> conversions and mentioned[1] that he had converted additional
> boards in the past but did not merge it upstream. They
> can probably point you to whatever is missing. I would expect
> the generic PXA drivers (spi, mmc, nand, i2c, audio, fb, gpio,
> keypad) to  basically work work a correct DT description,
> while the machine specific drivers (scoop and pcmcia mainly)
> will need DT support in the driver.
>
> In addition, Linus Walleij and Marc Zyngier have both expressed
> interest in keeping sa1100 (h3600, collie, assabet, jornada720)
> alive, but those don't have any DT support yet and require
> much more work. Also note that while you can now build a kernel
> that includes support for all little-endian ARMv4T and ARMv5
> machines, StrongARM machine still require a separate kernel
> build.

I looked into converting collie to use DT several years ago. The major
problem was not in the StrongARM itself , but rather in the locomo
(platform-specific ASIC) and PCMCIA. Unfortunately I abandoned that
work ages ago. RMK didn't seem to be very interested, if I remember
correclty.

I suspect that the platforms might need to be rebootstrapped from the
ground up. This sounds like a fun project for the next Connect demo :D

BTW: collie is also supported by the qemu (in fact at some point I
mostly used qemu for debugging collie). I don't think that the LCD
emulation works, but the rest should be mostly good.

>
>      Arnd
>
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/803778517.2279639.1667493436959.JavaMail.open-xchange@opme11oxm02aub.pom.fr.intraorange/

-- 
With best wishes
Dmitry

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From: Dmitry Baryshkov <dbaryshkov@gmail.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Richard Purdie <richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@kernel.org>,
	 Robert Jarzmik <robert.jarzmik@free.fr>,
	Daniel Mack <daniel@zonque.org>,
	 Haojian Zhuang <haojian.zhuang@gmail.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ales Bardorfer <ales@i-tech.si>,
	 Ales Snuparek <snuparek@atlas.cz>, Alex Osborne <ato@meshy.org>,
	Alex Osborne <bobofdoom@gmail.com>,
	 Dirk Opfer <dirk@opfer-online.de>, Ian Molton <spyro@f2s.com>,
	 Lennert Buytenhek <kernel@wantstofly.org>,
	Marek Vasut <marek.vasut@gmail.com>,
	 Michael Petchkovsky <mkpetch@internode.on.net>,
	Nick Bane <nick@cecomputing.co.uk>,
	 Paul Parsons <lost.distance@yahoo.com>,
	Philipp Zabel <philipp.zabel@gmail.com>,
	 Sergey Lapin <slapin@ossfans.org>,
	Tomas Cech <sleep_walker@suse.cz>,
	 Linus Walleij <linusw@kernel.org>, Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/27] ARM: pxa: remove unused board files
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2023 12:06:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALT56yN9aBn+s5rFB1yBdhGtYa6t=c0JeNmy0T=ckh3bNPgh2Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0690759c-8e74-429e-a3f9-c20aaac9c92f@app.fastmail.com>

пт, 6 янв. 2023 г. в 11:47, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>:
>
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023, at 23:45, Richard Purdie wrote:
> > On Thu, 2023-01-05 at 23:16 +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> >> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023, at 18:05, Richard Purdie wrote:
> >> > On Thu, 2023-01-05 at 17:50 +0200, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
> >>
> >> In the long run, I expect we will remove all the remaining
> >> legacy boardfiles and only keep the DT support. Ideally
> >> if someone is motivated to convert spitz to DT, supporting
> >> corgi the same way is also easy.
> >
> > Personally, I'm not that interested in tosa (or poodle/collie).

I think I was one of the last devs having interest in tosa. It worked
mostly fine except the offline charging.

> >
> > The other zaurus devices are interesting for me as I know the platform,
> > they have qemu emulation, there are set of devices which are similar
> > but also have differences and there were one of the original targets
> > for OpenEmbedded and Yocto Project. I did quite a bit of work to get
> > one kernel which could run on multiple devices, as best you could at
> > the time! I'd actually forgotten about the qemu emulation.
> >
> > There is a need for better automated testing around DT in OE/YP and
> > this is making me wonder about a few potential ideas.
>
> Ok
>
> > Is there any conversion to DT you can easily point at as an example of
> > the kinds of changes needed?
>
> Robert Jarzmik and Daniel Mack worked on the conversion of the
> PXA platform to DT. Daniel contributed the port for Raumfeld,
> which should be complete, while Robert worked on more driver
> conversions and mentioned[1] that he had converted additional
> boards in the past but did not merge it upstream. They
> can probably point you to whatever is missing. I would expect
> the generic PXA drivers (spi, mmc, nand, i2c, audio, fb, gpio,
> keypad) to  basically work work a correct DT description,
> while the machine specific drivers (scoop and pcmcia mainly)
> will need DT support in the driver.
>
> In addition, Linus Walleij and Marc Zyngier have both expressed
> interest in keeping sa1100 (h3600, collie, assabet, jornada720)
> alive, but those don't have any DT support yet and require
> much more work. Also note that while you can now build a kernel
> that includes support for all little-endian ARMv4T and ARMv5
> machines, StrongARM machine still require a separate kernel
> build.

I looked into converting collie to use DT several years ago. The major
problem was not in the StrongARM itself , but rather in the locomo
(platform-specific ASIC) and PCMCIA. Unfortunately I abandoned that
work ages ago. RMK didn't seem to be very interested, if I remember
correclty.

I suspect that the platforms might need to be rebootstrapped from the
ground up. This sounds like a fun project for the next Connect demo :D

BTW: collie is also supported by the qemu (in fact at some point I
mostly used qemu for debugging collie). I don't think that the LCD
emulation works, but the rest should be mostly good.

>
>      Arnd
>
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/803778517.2279639.1667493436959.JavaMail.open-xchange@opme11oxm02aub.pom.fr.intraorange/

-- 
With best wishes
Dmitry

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2023-01-05 13:45 [PATCH v2 00/27] ARM: pxa: remove all unused boards&drivers Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:45 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:45 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:45 ` [PATCH 01/27] ARM: pxa: remove unused board files Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:45   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 15:50   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-01-05 15:50     ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-01-05 17:05     ` Richard Purdie
2023-01-05 17:05       ` Richard Purdie
2023-01-05 22:16       ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 22:16         ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 22:45         ` Richard Purdie
2023-01-05 22:45           ` Richard Purdie
2023-01-06  9:47           ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-06  9:47             ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-06 10:06             ` Dmitry Baryshkov [this message]
2023-01-06 10:06               ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-01-08  9:06               ` Robert Jarzmik
2023-01-08  9:06                 ` Robert Jarzmik
2023-01-08 20:36               ` Linus Walleij
2023-01-08 20:36                 ` Linus Walleij
2023-01-08 21:05               ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-08 21:05                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-08 21:12                 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-01-08 21:12                   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-01-08 21:20                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-08 21:20                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:45 ` [PATCH 02/27] ARM: pxa: remove irda leftover Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:45   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:45 ` [PATCH 03/27] ARM: pxa: remove unused pxa3xx-ulpi Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:45   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 14:55   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-01-05 14:55     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-01-05 13:45 ` [PATCH 04/27] ARM: pxa: drop pxa310/pxa320/pxa93x support Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:45   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 14:59   ` Ulf Hansson
2023-01-05 14:59     ` Ulf Hansson
2023-01-06  2:19   ` Viresh Kumar
2023-01-06  2:19     ` Viresh Kumar
2023-01-08  8:49   ` Robert Jarzmik
2023-01-08  8:49     ` Robert Jarzmik
2023-01-08 13:40     ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-08 13:40       ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-09 14:18       ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-09 14:18         ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-12 17:37       ` Robert Jarzmik
2023-01-12 17:37         ` Robert Jarzmik
2023-01-05 13:46 ` [PATCH 05/27] ARM: pxa: prune unused device support Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46 ` [PATCH 06/27] power: remove z2_battery driver Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 16:35   ` Sebastian Reichel
2023-01-05 16:35     ` Sebastian Reichel
2023-01-05 13:46 ` [PATCH 07/27] power: remove tosa_battery driver Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 16:42   ` Sebastian Reichel
2023-01-05 16:42     ` Sebastian Reichel
2023-01-05 17:16     ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 17:16       ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46 ` [PATCH 08/27] ata: remove palmld pata driver Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-06  6:25   ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-06  6:25     ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-11 17:37   ` Sergey Shtylyov
2023-01-11 17:37     ` Sergey Shtylyov
2023-01-05 13:46 ` [PATCH 09/27] backlight: remove pxa tosa support Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 14:23   ` Daniel Thompson
2023-01-05 14:23     ` Daniel Thompson
2023-01-20 14:00   ` Lee Jones
2023-01-20 14:00     ` Lee Jones
2023-01-05 13:46 ` [PATCH 10/27] input: remove pxa930_trkball driver Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46 ` [PATCH 11/27] input: remove pxa930_rotary keyboard driver Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46 ` [PATCH 12/27] input: remove zylonite touchscreen driver Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46 ` [PATCH 13/27] pcmcia: remove unused pxa/sa1100 drivers Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46 ` [PATCH 14/27] ASoC: PXA: make SND_PXA2XX_SOC_AC97 user-selectable Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46 ` [PATCH 15/27] ASoC: pxa: remove unused board support Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-10 13:58   ` Mark Brown
2023-01-10 13:58     ` Mark Brown
2023-01-10 13:58     ` Mark Brown
2023-01-05 13:46 ` [PATCH 16/27] power: remove pda_power supply driver Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 16:39   ` Sebastian Reichel
2023-01-05 16:39     ` Sebastian Reichel
2023-01-05 13:46 ` [PATCH 17/27] rtc: remove v3020 driver Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46 ` [PATCH 18/27] mfd: remove toshiba tmio drivers Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-20 14:55   ` Lee Jones
2023-01-20 14:55     ` Lee Jones
2023-01-05 13:46 ` [PATCH 19/27] mfd: remove ucb1400 support Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-20 14:18   ` Lee Jones
2023-01-20 14:18     ` Lee Jones
2023-01-20 14:18     ` Lee Jones
2023-01-20 14:27     ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-20 14:27       ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-20 14:27       ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-20 14:57       ` Lee Jones
2023-01-20 14:57         ` Lee Jones
2023-01-20 14:57         ` Lee Jones
2023-01-05 13:46 ` [PATCH 20/27] mtd: remove tmio_nand driver Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-07 15:41   ` Miquel Raynal
2023-01-07 15:41     ` Miquel Raynal
2023-01-07 15:41     ` Miquel Raynal
2023-01-05 13:46 ` [PATCH 21/27] mmc: remove tmio_mmc driver Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 15:01   ` Ulf Hansson
2023-01-05 15:01     ` Ulf Hansson
2023-01-05 15:44     ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 15:44       ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-16 10:48       ` Ulf Hansson
2023-01-16 10:48         ` Ulf Hansson
2023-01-05 15:14   ` Wolfram Sang
2023-01-05 15:14     ` Wolfram Sang
2023-01-05 13:46 ` [PATCH 22/27] fbdev: remove tmiofb driver Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-06  9:47   ` Helge Deller
2023-01-06  9:47     ` Helge Deller
2023-01-06  9:47     ` Helge Deller
2023-01-06 11:25     ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-06 11:25       ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-06 11:25       ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46 ` [PATCH 23/27] fbdev: remove w100fb driver Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46 ` [PATCH 24/27] leds: remove asic3 driver Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-20 14:02   ` Lee Jones
2023-01-20 14:02     ` Lee Jones
2023-01-05 13:46 ` [PATCH 25/27] usb: remove ohci-tmio driver Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 14:55   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-01-05 14:55     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-01-05 15:03     ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 15:03       ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46 ` [PATCH 26/27] w1: remove ds1wm driver Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46 ` [PATCH 27/27] mfd: remove htc-pasic3 driver Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-20 14:09   ` Lee Jones
2023-01-20 14:09     ` Lee Jones
2023-01-12 20:01 ` (subset) [PATCH v2 00/27] ARM: pxa: remove all unused boards&drivers Mark Brown
2023-01-12 20:01   ` Mark Brown
2023-01-12 20:01   ` Mark Brown
2023-01-12 20:01   ` Mark Brown

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