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From: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	 Fangrui Song <maskray@google.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	 Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	 Jisheng Zhang <jszhang@kernel.org>,
	Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>,
	 Peter Smith <peter.smith@arm.com>,
	llvm@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] arm64: jump_label: use constraints "Si" instead of "i"
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2024 08:55:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMj1kXGWiTusoFWPCwM9OVwxp5=BHPfUdG-CurO13mWOdQr6Hg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZdOcXTvvHyl8s56I@FVFF77S0Q05N>

On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 at 19:22, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 06:06:19PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 19, 2024, at 16:41, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> > > On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 at 15:43, Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org> wrote:
> > >> On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 11:57 AM Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org> wrote:
> > >> > On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 at 11:56, Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > >> > https://godbolt.org/z/GTnf3vPaT
> > >>
> > >> I could reproduce the issue on v6.8-rc5 using arm64 defconfig
> > >> and x86_64-gcc-5.5.0-nolibc-aarch64-linux.tar.xz from
> > >> https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/tools/crosstool/files/bin/x86_64/5.5.0/:
> > >>
> > >
> > > OK, I managed to do so as well.
> > >
> > > And GCC 6.4 from the same source works correctly.
> > >
> > > Not sure whether there are any plans to bump the minimal GCC version
> > > any time soon (cc'ing Arnd), but we should probably drop this change
> > > until that happens.
> >
> > From what I can tell, we may as well formally raise the minimum
> > gcc version to 8.1+ already, as that is a version that is
> > actually used in distros, and we have been on 5.1+ for a few
> > years already.
> >
> > Not sure if there are any other benefits to gcc-8 besides
> > allowing minor cleanups.
>
> Arguably a minor cleanup, but on arm64 that'd allow us to get rid of the old
> mcount-based ftrace implementation and rely on -fpatchable-function-entry.
> On its own that'd save ~130 lines of asm and ~70 lines of C, but it'd also
> remove some constraints on other features (e.g. the mcount-based form's graph
> tracer isn't compatible with pointer authentication), it would simplify a few
> things going forwards (e.g. the implementation of RELIABLE_STACKTRACE, since we
> could rely on having ftrace_regs and a single trampoline), and the remaining
> support would be better tested.
>
> I've wanted to remove the old ftrace implementation for a while, but on its own
> it was never important/urgent enough to justify bumping to GCC 8+.
>

I don't think this is minor, tbh. Supporting two versions of the
highly complex tracing infrastructure for a toolchain that is only
used in CI seems like a waste of time and effort.

I checked x86, and it needs at least GCC 7 for retpoline support, so I
reckon at least GCC 5/6 support might be dropped there as well.

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From: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	 Fangrui Song <maskray@google.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	 Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	 Jisheng Zhang <jszhang@kernel.org>,
	Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>,
	 Peter Smith <peter.smith@arm.com>,
	llvm@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] arm64: jump_label: use constraints "Si" instead of "i"
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2024 08:55:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMj1kXGWiTusoFWPCwM9OVwxp5=BHPfUdG-CurO13mWOdQr6Hg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZdOcXTvvHyl8s56I@FVFF77S0Q05N>

On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 at 19:22, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 06:06:19PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 19, 2024, at 16:41, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> > > On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 at 15:43, Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org> wrote:
> > >> On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 11:57 AM Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org> wrote:
> > >> > On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 at 11:56, Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > >> > https://godbolt.org/z/GTnf3vPaT
> > >>
> > >> I could reproduce the issue on v6.8-rc5 using arm64 defconfig
> > >> and x86_64-gcc-5.5.0-nolibc-aarch64-linux.tar.xz from
> > >> https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/tools/crosstool/files/bin/x86_64/5.5.0/:
> > >>
> > >
> > > OK, I managed to do so as well.
> > >
> > > And GCC 6.4 from the same source works correctly.
> > >
> > > Not sure whether there are any plans to bump the minimal GCC version
> > > any time soon (cc'ing Arnd), but we should probably drop this change
> > > until that happens.
> >
> > From what I can tell, we may as well formally raise the minimum
> > gcc version to 8.1+ already, as that is a version that is
> > actually used in distros, and we have been on 5.1+ for a few
> > years already.
> >
> > Not sure if there are any other benefits to gcc-8 besides
> > allowing minor cleanups.
>
> Arguably a minor cleanup, but on arm64 that'd allow us to get rid of the old
> mcount-based ftrace implementation and rely on -fpatchable-function-entry.
> On its own that'd save ~130 lines of asm and ~70 lines of C, but it'd also
> remove some constraints on other features (e.g. the mcount-based form's graph
> tracer isn't compatible with pointer authentication), it would simplify a few
> things going forwards (e.g. the implementation of RELIABLE_STACKTRACE, since we
> could rely on having ftrace_regs and a single trampoline), and the remaining
> support would be better tested.
>
> I've wanted to remove the old ftrace implementation for a while, but on its own
> it was never important/urgent enough to justify bumping to GCC 8+.
>

I don't think this is minor, tbh. Supporting two versions of the
highly complex tracing infrastructure for a toolchain that is only
used in CI seems like a waste of time and effort.

I checked x86, and it needs at least GCC 7 for retpoline support, so I
reckon at least GCC 5/6 support might be dropped there as well.

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-20  7:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-06  7:45 [PATCH v2] arm64: jump_label: use constraints "Si" instead of "i" Fangrui Song
2024-02-06  7:45 ` Fangrui Song
2024-02-09 11:11 ` Mark Rutland
2024-02-09 11:11   ` Mark Rutland
2024-02-09 18:31 ` Will Deacon
2024-02-09 18:31   ` Will Deacon
2024-02-19 10:03 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-02-19 10:03   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-02-19 10:56   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2024-02-19 10:56     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2024-02-19 10:57     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2024-02-19 10:57       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2024-02-19 14:42       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-02-19 14:42         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-02-19 15:41         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2024-02-19 15:41           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2024-02-19 17:06           ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-02-19 17:06             ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-02-19 18:22             ` Mark Rutland
2024-02-19 18:22               ` Mark Rutland
2024-02-20  7:55               ` Ard Biesheuvel [this message]
2024-02-20  7:55                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2024-02-20  8:49                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2024-02-20  8:49                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2024-02-20 12:05           ` Will Deacon
2024-02-20 12:05             ` Will Deacon

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