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From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: thesven73@gmail.com, svendev@arcx.com,
	"Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Linus Walleij" <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	"Lee Jones" <lee.jones@linaro.org>,
	"Mark Rutland" <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	"Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>,
	"Thierry Reding" <treding@nvidia.com>,
	"David Lechner" <david@lechnology.com>,
	"Noralf Trønnes" <noralf@tronnes.org>,
	"Johan Hovold" <johan@kernel.org>,
	"Michal Simek" <monstr@monstr.eu>,
	michal.vokac@ysoft.com, "Greg KH" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"John Garry" <john.garry@huawei.com>,
	"Geert Uytterhoeven" <geert+renesas@glider.be>,
	"Robin Murphy" <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	"Paul Gortmaker" <paul.gortmaker@windriver.com>,
	sebastien.bourdelin@savoirfairelinux.com, icenowy@aosc.io,
	stuyoder@gmail.com, "Maxime Ripard" <maxime.ripard@bootlin.com>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:OPEN FIRMWARE AND FLATTENED DEVICE TREE BINDINGS"
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Subject: Re: [PATCH anybus v3 4/6] bus: support HMS Anybus-S bus
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2018 11:55:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMuHMdVgEQzf_CR79R0dtWVDTtQUj-YUbYPSqg2XkzxQoDz0Lw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK8P3a3=2PUy4Zv9r7oN3Jrp6+vf5iZ+3wi2VNee61mmnFsXNA@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 10:03 PM Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 5:25 PM Sven Van Asbroeck <thesven73@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 9:07 AM Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
> > > > +struct anybus_mbox_hdr {
> > > > +       u16 id;
> > > > +       u16 info;
> > > > +       u16 cmd_num;
> > > > +       u16 data_size;
> > > > +       u16 frame_count;
> > > > +       u16 frame_num;
> > > > +       u16 offset_high;
> > > > +       u16 offset_low;
> > > > +       u16 extended[8];
> > > > +} __packed;
> > >
> > > I don't think you want this to be __packed, it won't change the layout
> > > but instead force byte accesses on architectures that don't have
> > > fast unaligned load/store instructions.
> > >
> > > Instead of the __packed, it's almost always better to ensure that
> > > the structure itself is aligned to a 16-bit address.
> > >
> >
> > A general question about __packed.
> >
> > My current understanding is this:
> > (please tell me if it's incorrect or incomplete)
> >
> > + without __packed, the compiler is free to pad the struct in whatever
> > way it feels is best.
> > + with __packed, the fields have to be laid out EXACTLY as specified.
>
> It's not up to the compiler but the ELF ABI. The rules are largely consisten
> among the architectures we support, but there are a couple of notable
> exceptions:
>
> - ARM OABI requires 32-bit alignment for structures
> - x86-32 aligns 64-bit members to 32-bit rather than 64-bit
> - m68k has some oddities, I think they can pack certain
>   members (don't remember the details)

M68k aligns 16-bit and larger members to 16-bit.

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

-- 
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
                                -- Linus Torvalds

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From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: thesven73@gmail.com, svendev@arcx.com,
	"Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Linus Walleij" <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	"Lee Jones" <lee.jones@linaro.org>,
	"Mark Rutland" <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	"Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>,
	"Thierry Reding" <treding@nvidia.com>,
	"David Lechner" <david@lechnology.com>,
	"Noralf Trønnes" <noralf@tronnes.org>,
	"Johan Hovold" <johan@kernel.org>,
	"Michal Simek" <monstr@monstr.eu>,
	michal.vokac@ysoft.com, "Greg KH" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"John Garry" <john.garry@huawei.com>,
	"Geert Uytterhoeven" <geert+renesas@glider.be>,
	"Robin Murphy" <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	"Paul Gortmaker" <paul.gortmaker@windriver.com>,
	sebastien.bourdelin@savoirfairelinux.com, icenowy@aosc.io,
	stuyoder@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH anybus v3 4/6] bus: support HMS Anybus-S bus
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2018 11:55:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMuHMdVgEQzf_CR79R0dtWVDTtQUj-YUbYPSqg2XkzxQoDz0Lw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK8P3a3=2PUy4Zv9r7oN3Jrp6+vf5iZ+3wi2VNee61mmnFsXNA@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 10:03 PM Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 5:25 PM Sven Van Asbroeck <thesven73@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 9:07 AM Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
> > > > +struct anybus_mbox_hdr {
> > > > +       u16 id;
> > > > +       u16 info;
> > > > +       u16 cmd_num;
> > > > +       u16 data_size;
> > > > +       u16 frame_count;
> > > > +       u16 frame_num;
> > > > +       u16 offset_high;
> > > > +       u16 offset_low;
> > > > +       u16 extended[8];
> > > > +} __packed;
> > >
> > > I don't think you want this to be __packed, it won't change the layout
> > > but instead force byte accesses on architectures that don't have
> > > fast unaligned load/store instructions.
> > >
> > > Instead of the __packed, it's almost always better to ensure that
> > > the structure itself is aligned to a 16-bit address.
> > >
> >
> > A general question about __packed.
> >
> > My current understanding is this:
> > (please tell me if it's incorrect or incomplete)
> >
> > + without __packed, the compiler is free to pad the struct in whatever
> > way it feels is best.
> > + with __packed, the fields have to be laid out EXACTLY as specified.
>
> It's not up to the compiler but the ELF ABI. The rules are largely consisten
> among the architectures we support, but there are a couple of notable
> exceptions:
>
> - ARM OABI requires 32-bit alignment for structures
> - x86-32 aligns 64-bit members to 32-bit rather than 64-bit
> - m68k has some oddities, I think they can pack certain
>   members (don't remember the details)

M68k aligns 16-bit and larger members to 16-bit.

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

-- 
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
                                -- Linus Torvalds

  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-10 10:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-04 15:54 [PATCH anybus v3 0/6] Support HMS Profinet Card over Anybus thesven73
2018-11-04 15:54 ` [PATCH anybus v3 1/6] misc: support the Arcx anybus bridge thesven73
2018-11-05 21:20   ` Rob Herring
2018-11-05 21:50     ` Sven Van Asbroeck
2018-11-06 13:58       ` Rob Herring
2018-11-06 13:58         ` Rob Herring
2018-11-06 14:45         ` Sven Van Asbroeck
2018-11-06 18:30           ` Rob Herring
2018-11-06 18:30             ` Rob Herring
2018-11-06 20:05             ` Sven Van Asbroeck
2018-11-08 13:40               ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-11-08 13:40                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-11-04 15:54 ` [PATCH anybus v3 2/6] dt-bindings: Add vendor prefix for arcx / Archronix thesven73
2018-11-04 15:57   ` Andreas Färber
2018-11-05 20:44   ` Rob Herring
2018-11-04 15:54 ` [PATCH anybus v3 3/6] dt-bindings: anybus-bridge: document devicetree binding thesven73
2018-11-05 20:45   ` Rob Herring
2018-11-04 15:54 ` [PATCH anybus v3 4/6] bus: support HMS Anybus-S bus thesven73
2018-11-08 14:07   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-11-08 14:07     ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-11-08 15:47     ` Sven Van Asbroeck
2018-11-08 16:54       ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-11-08 16:54         ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-11-09 16:25     ` Sven Van Asbroeck
2018-11-09 21:03       ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-11-09 21:03         ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-11-10 10:55         ` Geert Uytterhoeven [this message]
2018-11-10 10:55           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-11-12 16:23     ` Sven Van Asbroeck
2018-11-04 15:55 ` [PATCH anybus v3 5/6] dt-bindings: anybuss-host: document devicetree binding thesven73
2018-11-08 14:11   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-11-08 14:11     ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-11-08 14:21     ` Sven Van Asbroeck
2018-11-08 14:27       ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-11-08 14:27         ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-11-12 18:05         ` Sven Van Asbroeck
2018-11-04 15:55 ` [PATCH anybus v3 6/6] misc: support HMS Profinet IRT industrial controller thesven73
2018-11-08 14:20   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-11-08 14:20     ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-11-08 15:35     ` Sven Van Asbroeck
2018-11-08 16:52       ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-11-08 16:52         ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-11-09 16:02 ` [PATCH anybus v3 0/6] Support HMS Profinet Card over Anybus Sven Van Asbroeck
2018-11-09 21:22   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-11-09 21:46     ` Sven Van Asbroeck
2018-11-09 22:32       ` Arnd Bergmann

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