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From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: Jiada Wang <jiada_wang@mentor.com>
Cc: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>, Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Shawn Guo <shawnguo@kernel.org>,
	Sascha Hauer <kernel@pengutronix.de>,
	Fabio Estevam <fabio.estevam@nxp.com>,
	linux-spi <linux-spi@vger.kernel.org>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/5] *** SPI Slave mode support ***
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 12:55:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMuHMdXa_O6RsqUciiNWQ0Zp6dniS47AUmPN9UWAWitP0csx=Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <58F06092.9080409@mentor.com>

Hi Jiada,

On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 7:39 AM, Jiada Wang <jiada_wang@mentor.com> wrote:
> On 04/13/2017 12:47 PM, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 2:59 PM, Mark Brown<broonie@kernel.org>  wrote:
>>> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 05:13:59AM -0700, jiada_wang@mentor.com wrote:
>>>> From: Jiada Wang<jiada_wang@mentor.com>
>>>>
>>>> v1:
>>>>    add Slave mode support in SPI core
>>>>    spidev create slave device when SPI controller work in slave mode
>>>>    spi-imx support to work in slave mode
>>>
>>> Adding Geert who also had a series doing this in progress that was
>>> getting very near to being merged.
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Actually my plan is to fix the last remaining issues and resubmit for
>> v4.13.
>
> I noticed your patch set for SPI slave support,
> (I am sure you can find out some of the change
> in this patch set is based on your work).
> we have similar requirement to add slave mode support to ecspi IP on imx6
> Soc.
>
> Our use case is to use spidev as an interface to communicate with external
> SPI master devices.
> meanwhile the SPI bus controller can also act as master device to send data
> to other
> SPI slave devices on the board.

That sounds a bit hackish to me. SPI was never meant to be a multi-master bus.
While it can be done, you will need external synchronization (signals) to
avoid conflicts between the SPI masters.

> I found in your implementation, SPI bus controller is limited to either work
> in master mode or
> slave mode, is there any reasoning to not configure SPI mode based on SPI
> devices use case?

If you really need both master and slave support, you can use 2 subnodes
in DT, the first representing the master, the second the slave.

Mark, what's your opinion about this?

Thanks!

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
                                -- Linus Torvalds

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From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert-Td1EMuHUCqxL1ZNQvxDV9g@public.gmane.org>
To: Jiada Wang <jiada_wang-nmGgyN9QBj3QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Mark Brown <broonie-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
	Shawn Guo <shawnguo-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Sascha Hauer <kernel-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Fabio Estevam <fabio.estevam-3arQi8VN3Tc@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-spi <linux-spi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/5] *** SPI Slave mode support ***
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 12:55:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMuHMdXa_O6RsqUciiNWQ0Zp6dniS47AUmPN9UWAWitP0csx=Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <58F06092.9080409-nmGgyN9QBj3QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

Hi Jiada,

On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 7:39 AM, Jiada Wang <jiada_wang-nmGgyN9QBj3QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> On 04/13/2017 12:47 PM, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 2:59 PM, Mark Brown<broonie-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>  wrote:
>>> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 05:13:59AM -0700, jiada_wang-nmGgyN9QBj3QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org wrote:
>>>> From: Jiada Wang<jiada_wang-nmGgyN9QBj3QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
>>>>
>>>> v1:
>>>>    add Slave mode support in SPI core
>>>>    spidev create slave device when SPI controller work in slave mode
>>>>    spi-imx support to work in slave mode
>>>
>>> Adding Geert who also had a series doing this in progress that was
>>> getting very near to being merged.
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Actually my plan is to fix the last remaining issues and resubmit for
>> v4.13.
>
> I noticed your patch set for SPI slave support,
> (I am sure you can find out some of the change
> in this patch set is based on your work).
> we have similar requirement to add slave mode support to ecspi IP on imx6
> Soc.
>
> Our use case is to use spidev as an interface to communicate with external
> SPI master devices.
> meanwhile the SPI bus controller can also act as master device to send data
> to other
> SPI slave devices on the board.

That sounds a bit hackish to me. SPI was never meant to be a multi-master bus.
While it can be done, you will need external synchronization (signals) to
avoid conflicts between the SPI masters.

> I found in your implementation, SPI bus controller is limited to either work
> in master mode or
> slave mode, is there any reasoning to not configure SPI mode based on SPI
> devices use case?

If you really need both master and slave support, you can use 2 subnodes
in DT, the first representing the master, the second the slave.

Mark, what's your opinion about this?

Thanks!

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert-Td1EMuHUCqxL1ZNQvxDV9g@public.gmane.org

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when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
                                -- Linus Torvalds
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From: geert@linux-m68k.org (Geert Uytterhoeven)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH RFC 0/5] *** SPI Slave mode support ***
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 12:55:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMuHMdXa_O6RsqUciiNWQ0Zp6dniS47AUmPN9UWAWitP0csx=Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <58F06092.9080409@mentor.com>

Hi Jiada,

On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 7:39 AM, Jiada Wang <jiada_wang@mentor.com> wrote:
> On 04/13/2017 12:47 PM, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 2:59 PM, Mark Brown<broonie@kernel.org>  wrote:
>>> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 05:13:59AM -0700, jiada_wang at mentor.com wrote:
>>>> From: Jiada Wang<jiada_wang@mentor.com>
>>>>
>>>> v1:
>>>>    add Slave mode support in SPI core
>>>>    spidev create slave device when SPI controller work in slave mode
>>>>    spi-imx support to work in slave mode
>>>
>>> Adding Geert who also had a series doing this in progress that was
>>> getting very near to being merged.
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Actually my plan is to fix the last remaining issues and resubmit for
>> v4.13.
>
> I noticed your patch set for SPI slave support,
> (I am sure you can find out some of the change
> in this patch set is based on your work).
> we have similar requirement to add slave mode support to ecspi IP on imx6
> Soc.
>
> Our use case is to use spidev as an interface to communicate with external
> SPI master devices.
> meanwhile the SPI bus controller can also act as master device to send data
> to other
> SPI slave devices on the board.

That sounds a bit hackish to me. SPI was never meant to be a multi-master bus.
While it can be done, you will need external synchronization (signals) to
avoid conflicts between the SPI masters.

> I found in your implementation, SPI bus controller is limited to either work
> in master mode or
> slave mode, is there any reasoning to not configure SPI mode based on SPI
> devices use case?

If you really need both master and slave support, you can use 2 subnodes
in DT, the first representing the master, the second the slave.

Mark, what's your opinion about this?

Thanks!

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert at linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
                                -- Linus Torvalds

  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-24 10:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-13 12:13 [PATCH RFC 0/5] *** SPI Slave mode support *** jiada_wang
2017-04-13 12:13 ` jiada_wang at mentor.com
2017-04-13 12:13 ` jiada_wang
2017-04-13 12:13 ` jiada_wang
2017-04-13 12:14 ` [PATCH RFC 1/5] spi: core: add support to work in Slave mode jiada_wang
2017-04-13 12:14   ` jiada_wang at mentor.com
2017-04-13 12:14   ` jiada_wang-nmGgyN9QBj3QT0dZR+AlfA
2017-04-13 12:14   ` jiada_wang-nmGgyN9QBj3QT0dZR+AlfA
2017-04-13 12:14 ` [PATCH RFC 2/5] spi: spidev: use different name for SPI controller slave mode device jiada_wang
2017-04-13 12:14   ` jiada_wang at mentor.com
2017-04-13 12:14   ` jiada_wang
2017-04-13 12:14   ` jiada_wang
2017-04-13 12:14 ` [PATCH RFC 3/5] spi: imx: add selection for iMX53 and iMX6 controller jiada_wang
2017-04-13 12:14   ` jiada_wang at mentor.com
2017-04-13 12:14   ` jiada_wang
2017-04-13 12:14 ` [PATCH RFC 4/5] ARM: dts: imx: change compatiblity for SPI controllers on imx53 later soc jiada_wang
2017-04-13 12:14   ` jiada_wang at mentor.com
2017-04-13 12:14   ` jiada_wang
2017-04-13 12:14 ` [PATCH RFC 5/5] spi: imx: Add support for SPI Slave mode for imx53 and imx6 chips jiada_wang
2017-04-13 12:14   ` jiada_wang at mentor.com
2017-04-13 12:14   ` jiada_wang
2017-04-13 12:59 ` [PATCH RFC 0/5] *** SPI Slave mode support *** Mark Brown
2017-04-13 12:59   ` Mark Brown
2017-04-13 12:59   ` Mark Brown
2017-04-13 19:47   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-04-13 19:47     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-04-13 19:47     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-04-14  5:39     ` Jiada Wang
2017-04-14  5:39       ` Jiada Wang
2017-04-14  5:39       ` Jiada Wang
2017-04-24 10:55       ` Geert Uytterhoeven [this message]
2017-04-24 10:55         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-04-24 10:55         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-04-24 12:48         ` Jiada Wang
2017-04-24 12:48           ` Jiada Wang
2017-04-24 12:48           ` Jiada Wang
2017-04-24 13:10           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-04-24 13:10             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-04-24 13:10             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-04-25  7:56             ` Jiada Wang
2017-04-25  7:56               ` Jiada Wang
2017-04-25  7:56               ` Jiada Wang
2017-04-25  8:07               ` Uwe Kleine-König
2017-04-25  8:07                 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2017-04-25  8:07                 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2017-04-25  8:09               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-04-25  8:09                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-04-25  8:09                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-04-25 10:31         ` Mark Brown
2017-04-25 10:31           ` Mark Brown
2017-04-25 10:31           ` Mark Brown
2017-04-27  6:43           ` Jiada Wang
2017-04-27  6:43             ` Jiada Wang
2017-04-27  6:43             ` Jiada Wang
2017-05-24 17:29             ` Mark Brown
2017-05-24 17:29               ` Mark Brown
2017-05-24 17:29               ` Mark Brown
2017-05-29 12:01             ` Fabio Estevam
2017-05-29 12:01               ` Fabio Estevam
2017-05-29 12:01               ` Fabio Estevam
2017-05-30  2:53               ` Jiada Wang
2017-05-30  2:53                 ` Jiada Wang
2017-05-30  2:53                 ` Jiada Wang

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