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From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>
Cc: Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert+renesas@glider.be>,
	Kevin Hilman <khilman@linaro.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
	"Steven Rostedt (Red Hat)" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Riku Voipio <riku.voipio@linaro.org>,
	Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>, Paul Bolle <pebolle@tiscali.nl>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr@hp.com>,
	Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>, Zhigang Lu <zlu@tilera.com>,
	Vineet Gupta <vgupta@synopsys.com>,
	Richard Kuo <rkuo@codeaurora.org>,
	Max Filippov <jcmvbkbc@gmail.com>,
	Pranith Kumar <bobby.prani@gmail.com>,
	Linux-sh list <linux-sh@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org"
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>linux-s
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Changes to existing files for 0PF FPGA board.
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 08:00:37 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMuHMdXscFCvHGGkFvF6XPS9b=K+p7cCQrnUA86BMfyWpwHP1Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55849397.1060000@landley.net>

Hi Rob,

On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 12:11 AM, Rob Landley <rob@landley.net> wrote:
> On 06/18/2015 02:36 PM, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
>> On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 7:19 PM, Rob Landley <rob@landley.net> wrote:
>>> Changes to existing files to add 0pf j2 board support.
>>
>> Thanks for your patch!
>>
>> Like Greg already said, splitting it up in logical parts and providing useful
>> patch descriptions would be highly appreciated.
>
> I actually don't know how to split it up further. The initial port was
> done by a series of contractors (in Russia, I think), and then I
> inherited it to try to get something releasable. This is the smallest
> chunk I could get to actually boot.
>
> I suppose I could send you the serial driver by itself, and _then_ the
> board, but it wouldn't compile if nothing uses it. (Similarly you can't
> boot the board without a serial console...)

You don't have to send in a big initial patch that actually boots.
For new architecture/SoC/board support, just split it in logical hunks,
and submit it in some logical order that always builds.

E.g.:
  - SoC core support (arch/sh/),
  - Board support (arch/sh/),
  - Drivers.

The first two should go in through akpm (sh is orphaned),
the rest through the individual subsystem maintainers.

> (Now the reason _I_ thought you'd reject it had more to do with not
> having converted it to device tree yet, and things on that level. But I

Sh is an existing supported architecture, so DT is not a hard requirement.
If you would have waited until after the removal of sh, it would be much
harder :-) (cfr. h8300, but Sato-san did a great job there, with DT, CCF, ...)

> wanted to get it out there so people outside $DAYJOB can test the
> hardware. We did a linuxcon japan presentation which lwn.net covered,
> and we're getting pokes about "where can I download this", so...)

It's great to hear there's so much interest in this! Let's hope this will
attract more actual contributors...

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
                                -- Linus Torvalds
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From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>
Cc: Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert+renesas@glider.be>,
	Kevin Hilman <khilman@linaro.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
	"Steven Rostedt (Red Hat)" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Riku Voipio <riku.voipio@linaro.org>,
	Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>, Paul Bolle <pebolle@tiscali.nl>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr@hp.com>,
	Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>, Zhigang Lu <zlu@tilera.com>,
	Vineet Gupta <vgupta@synopsys.com>,
	Richard Kuo <rkuo@codeaurora.org>,
	Max Filippov <jcmvbkbc@gmail.com>,
	Pranith Kumar <bobby.prani@gmail.com>,
	Linux-sh list <linux-sh@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-serial@vger.kernel.org" <linux-serial@vger.kernel.org>,
	Yoshinori Sato <ysato@users.sourceforge.jp>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Changes to existing files for 0PF FPGA board.
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 10:00:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMuHMdXscFCvHGGkFvF6XPS9b=K+p7cCQrnUA86BMfyWpwHP1Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55849397.1060000@landley.net>

Hi Rob,

On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 12:11 AM, Rob Landley <rob@landley.net> wrote:
> On 06/18/2015 02:36 PM, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
>> On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 7:19 PM, Rob Landley <rob@landley.net> wrote:
>>> Changes to existing files to add 0pf j2 board support.
>>
>> Thanks for your patch!
>>
>> Like Greg already said, splitting it up in logical parts and providing useful
>> patch descriptions would be highly appreciated.
>
> I actually don't know how to split it up further. The initial port was
> done by a series of contractors (in Russia, I think), and then I
> inherited it to try to get something releasable. This is the smallest
> chunk I could get to actually boot.
>
> I suppose I could send you the serial driver by itself, and _then_ the
> board, but it wouldn't compile if nothing uses it. (Similarly you can't
> boot the board without a serial console...)

You don't have to send in a big initial patch that actually boots.
For new architecture/SoC/board support, just split it in logical hunks,
and submit it in some logical order that always builds.

E.g.:
  - SoC core support (arch/sh/),
  - Board support (arch/sh/),
  - Drivers.

The first two should go in through akpm (sh is orphaned),
the rest through the individual subsystem maintainers.

> (Now the reason _I_ thought you'd reject it had more to do with not
> having converted it to device tree yet, and things on that level. But I

Sh is an existing supported architecture, so DT is not a hard requirement.
If you would have waited until after the removal of sh, it would be much
harder :-) (cfr. h8300, but Sato-san did a great job there, with DT, CCF, ...)

> wanted to get it out there so people outside $DAYJOB can test the
> hardware. We did a linuxcon japan presentation which lwn.net covered,
> and we're getting pokes about "where can I download this", so...)

It's great to hear there's so much interest in this! Let's hope this will
attract more actual contributors...

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
                                -- Linus Torvalds
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WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>
Cc: Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert+renesas@glider.be>,
	Kevin Hilman <khilman@linaro.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
	"Steven Rostedt (Red Hat)" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Riku Voipio <riku.voipio@linaro.org>,
	Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>, Paul Bolle <pebolle@tiscali.nl>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr@hp.com>,
	Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>, Zhigang Lu <zlu@tilera.com>,
	Vineet Gupta <vgupta@synopsys.com>,
	Richard Kuo <rkuo@codeaurora.org>,
	Max Filippov <jcmvbkbc@gmail.com>,
	Pranith Kumar <bobby.prani@gmail.com>,
	Linux-sh list <linux-sh@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org"
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>linux-s
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Changes to existing files for 0PF FPGA board.
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 10:00:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMuHMdXscFCvHGGkFvF6XPS9b=K+p7cCQrnUA86BMfyWpwHP1Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55849397.1060000@landley.net>

Hi Rob,

On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 12:11 AM, Rob Landley <rob@landley.net> wrote:
> On 06/18/2015 02:36 PM, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
>> On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 7:19 PM, Rob Landley <rob@landley.net> wrote:
>>> Changes to existing files to add 0pf j2 board support.
>>
>> Thanks for your patch!
>>
>> Like Greg already said, splitting it up in logical parts and providing useful
>> patch descriptions would be highly appreciated.
>
> I actually don't know how to split it up further. The initial port was
> done by a series of contractors (in Russia, I think), and then I
> inherited it to try to get something releasable. This is the smallest
> chunk I could get to actually boot.
>
> I suppose I could send you the serial driver by itself, and _then_ the
> board, but it wouldn't compile if nothing uses it. (Similarly you can't
> boot the board without a serial console...)

You don't have to send in a big initial patch that actually boots.
For new architecture/SoC/board support, just split it in logical hunks,
and submit it in some logical order that always builds.

E.g.:
  - SoC core support (arch/sh/),
  - Board support (arch/sh/),
  - Drivers.

The first two should go in through akpm (sh is orphaned),
the rest through the individual subsystem maintainers.

> (Now the reason _I_ thought you'd reject it had more to do with not
> having converted it to device tree yet, and things on that level. But I

Sh is an existing supported architecture, so DT is not a hard requirement.
If you would have waited until after the removal of sh, it would be much
harder :-) (cfr. h8300, but Sato-san did a great job there, with DT, CCF, ...)

> wanted to get it out there so people outside $DAYJOB can test the
> hardware. We did a linuxcon japan presentation which lwn.net covered,
> and we're getting pokes about "where can I download this", so...)

It's great to hear there's so much interest in this! Let's hope this will
attract more actual contributors...

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
                                -- Linus Torvalds
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-sh" in

  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-20  8:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-18 17:19 [PATCH 0/2] 0pf-j2 (sh2-compatible open hardware) FPGA board support Rob Landley
2015-06-18 17:19 ` Rob Landley
2015-06-18 17:19 ` [PATCH 1/2] New files for 0PF FPGA board Rob Landley
2015-06-18 17:19   ` Rob Landley
2015-06-19  7:47   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-06-19  7:47     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-06-18 17:19 ` [PATCH 2/2] Changes to existing " Rob Landley
2015-06-18 17:19   ` Rob Landley
2015-06-18 17:19   ` Rob Landley
2015-06-18 17:59   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-06-18 17:59     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-06-18 19:02     ` Steven Rostedt
2015-06-18 19:02       ` Steven Rostedt
2015-06-19 21:57     ` Rob Landley
2015-06-19 21:57       ` Rob Landley
2015-06-19 21:57       ` Rob Landley
2015-06-19 22:49       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-06-19 22:49         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-06-27  3:21         ` Rob Landley
2015-06-18 19:36   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-06-18 19:36     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-06-18 19:36     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-06-19 22:11     ` Rob Landley
2015-06-19 22:11       ` Rob Landley
2015-06-19 22:11       ` Rob Landley
2015-06-20  8:00       ` Geert Uytterhoeven [this message]
2015-06-20  8:00         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-06-20  8:00         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-06-20 20:13         ` Rob Landley
2015-06-20 20:13           ` Rob Landley
2015-06-20 20:13           ` Rob Landley
2015-06-20 20:48           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-06-20 20:48             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-06-20 20:48             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-06-22  4:26           ` Yoshinori Sato
2015-06-22  4:26             ` Yoshinori Sato
2015-06-22  4:26             ` Yoshinori Sato

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