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From: Benjamin Tissoires <benjamin.tissoires@gmail.com>
To: Arek Burdach <arek.burdach@gmail.com>
Cc: "Martin Kepplinger" <martin.kepplinger@ginzinger.com>,
	"Andrew Duggan" <aduggan@synaptics.com>,
	"Stéphane Chatty" <chatty@enac.fr>,
	linux-input <linux-input@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Missing release event for Synaptics touchscreen
Date: Fri, 12 May 2017 16:28:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAN+gG=H_B_Y9WspjJKJCLKyAHCfLfQgazifeQ_hPMm8o4nqJow@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c2492242-71c3-1bd5-8e1e-0f282e9ab0d1@gmail.com>

On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Benjamin Tissoires
<benjamin.tissoires@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 05/12/2017 09:57 AM, Arek Burdach wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 12.05.2017 09:39, Benjamin Tissoires wrote:
>>> On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 9:25 AM, Arek Burdach <arek.burdach@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 12.05.2017 08:56, Martin Kepplinger wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> No, you won't have "move after hold>5s" broken. Because at the HID
>>>>>>>>>> level, the device is supposed to send an update on every touch
>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>> reporting a touch (for Windows 8 devices). So if there are tiny
>>>>>>>>>> movements filtered at the input level in the kernel, we will get
>>>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>>> and I suspect the timeout will only appear when the finger actual
>>>>>>>>>> leaves the surface.
>>>>>>>>> ok. sounds a little more like a solution in the kernel would be
>>>>>>>>> justified. Isn't it? It still feels dangerously ugly.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mainly I wanted to point out that if you somehow have to stay with
>>>>>>>>> "no"
>>>>>>>>> for such broken devices, tslib would be a garbage can for userspace
>>>>>>>>> workarounds. (in this case, most probably a new device-specific
>>>>>>>>> hidraw
>>>>>>>>> based module).
>>>>> (...)
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for clarification. So do someone have an idea how it is
>>>>>> possible that Windows manages this? From my point of view, they can't
>>>>>> rely on timeouts because effect is visible immediately after releasing
>>>>>> finger. Is it possible that they use other protocol for communication
>>>>>> with device then we do? Because beside that, I don't see any other
>>>>>> option - there is too few information from device to correctly handle
>>>>>> this situation.
>>>>> hey, Benjamin explained what most probably is going on, see above, so:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. convice yourself that microsoft isn't using out-of-band data by
>>>>> sniffing the connection.
>>>> Touchscreen is communicating via i2c - am i right? Can you recommend
>>>> some
>>>> i2c sniffer for windows?
>>> I wrote something few months ago:
>>> https://github.com/bentiss/SimplePeripheralBusProbe
>>> But it requires you to have confidence in not breaking your EFI :)
>>>
>>> I can help you setting the bits up if you want.
>>>
>>>>> 2. if not, and Benjamin is right, come up with a timer- and hidraw
>>>>> based
>>>>> solution (I guess) and convince him and Dmitry to take it.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. if they don't see any chance to support such broken behaviour in the
>>>>> kernel, which could as well be and also has it's benefits in some way,
>>>>> you write the thing in userspace (a tslib raw module is only one
>>>>> example
>>>>> that would make it easy for you).
>>>>>
>>>>> Even *if* Synaptics would come up with a firmware update:
>>>>> 1. the current firmware is already out there in the wild;
>>>>> 2. it takes time and work to get people to update
>>>>>
>>>>> so, if I had the device, I'd write a workaround.
>>>> It is reasonable what you've wrote. The only blocker for me is that I
>>>> have
>>>> almost zero-experience in low level programming. I'm from java world
>>>> :-) It
>>>> is why I was looking for some low entry level solution. I'll do my
>>>> best but
>>>> every helping hand will be appreciated.
>>> I am currently checking the requirements for the devices to be
>>> validated by Microsoft:
>>> https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/hardware/commercialize/design/compatibility/1703/device-input-digitizer
>>>
>>>
>>> I would believe that the Latency and ReportRate requirements mean that
>>> as long as a finger is there, it should be reported at at least 60Hz,
>>> meaning that if there are no input reports for more than 16 ms, all
>>> fingers should be lifted. I think we can work something like that
>>> (taking an arbitrary multiple of 60 Hz would prevent any system lag),
>>> and release the touches if nothing comes in for, lets say, 250ms.
>>
>> Thank you Benjamin, it is significant brick for building knowledge how
>> this devices are handled in Windows. I will take a look in our drivers
>> and will try to understand the code and find the way how to handle it.
>>
>>>
>>> I should be able to work on that for Win8 devices. Win7 devices are a
>>> different beast, but hopefully they are nearly extinct or at least
>>> quirked in the kernel for them to be working.
>>>
>
> I have something which seems to compile, but for various reasons I haven't tested it (yet):
>
> diff --git a/drivers/hid/hid-multitouch.c b/drivers/hid/hid-multitouch.c
> index 24d5b6d..2ce0e96 100644
> --- a/drivers/hid/hid-multitouch.c
> +++ b/drivers/hid/hid-multitouch.c
> @@ -44,6 +44,7 @@
>  #include <linux/slab.h>
>  #include <linux/input/mt.h>
>  #include <linux/string.h>
> +#include <linux/timer.h>
>
>
>  MODULE_AUTHOR("Stephane Chatty <chatty@enac.fr>");
> @@ -54,22 +55,23 @@ MODULE_LICENSE("GPL");
>  #include "hid-ids.h"
>
>  /* quirks to control the device */
> -#define MT_QUIRK_NOT_SEEN_MEANS_UP     (1 << 0)
> -#define MT_QUIRK_SLOT_IS_CONTACTID     (1 << 1)
> -#define MT_QUIRK_CYPRESS               (1 << 2)
> -#define MT_QUIRK_SLOT_IS_CONTACTNUMBER (1 << 3)
> -#define MT_QUIRK_ALWAYS_VALID          (1 << 4)
> -#define MT_QUIRK_VALID_IS_INRANGE      (1 << 5)
> -#define MT_QUIRK_VALID_IS_CONFIDENCE   (1 << 6)
> -#define MT_QUIRK_CONFIDENCE            (1 << 7)
> -#define MT_QUIRK_SLOT_IS_CONTACTID_MINUS_ONE   (1 << 8)
> -#define MT_QUIRK_NO_AREA               (1 << 9)
> -#define MT_QUIRK_IGNORE_DUPLICATES     (1 << 10)
> -#define MT_QUIRK_HOVERING              (1 << 11)
> -#define MT_QUIRK_CONTACT_CNT_ACCURATE  (1 << 12)
> -#define MT_QUIRK_FORCE_GET_FEATURE     (1 << 13)
> -#define MT_QUIRK_FIX_CONST_CONTACT_ID  (1 << 14)
> -#define MT_QUIRK_TOUCH_SIZE_SCALING    (1 << 15)
> +#define MT_QUIRK_NOT_SEEN_MEANS_UP     BIT(0)
> +#define MT_QUIRK_SLOT_IS_CONTACTID     BIT(1)
> +#define MT_QUIRK_CYPRESS               BIT(2)
> +#define MT_QUIRK_SLOT_IS_CONTACTNUMBER BIT(3)
> +#define MT_QUIRK_ALWAYS_VALID          BIT(4)
> +#define MT_QUIRK_VALID_IS_INRANGE      BIT(5)
> +#define MT_QUIRK_VALID_IS_CONFIDENCE   BIT(6)
> +#define MT_QUIRK_CONFIDENCE            BIT(7)
> +#define MT_QUIRK_SLOT_IS_CONTACTID_MINUS_ONE   BIT(8)
> +#define MT_QUIRK_NO_AREA               BIT(9)
> +#define MT_QUIRK_IGNORE_DUPLICATES     BIT(10)
> +#define MT_QUIRK_HOVERING              BIT(11)
> +#define MT_QUIRK_CONTACT_CNT_ACCURATE  BIT(12)
> +#define MT_QUIRK_FORCE_GET_FEATURE     BIT(13)
> +#define MT_QUIRK_FIX_CONST_CONTACT_ID  BIT(14)
> +#define MT_QUIRK_TOUCH_SIZE_SCALING    BIT(15)
> +#define MT_QUIRK_STICKY_FINGERS                BIT(16)
>
>  #define MT_INPUTMODE_TOUCHSCREEN       0x02
>  #define MT_INPUTMODE_TOUCHPAD          0x03
> @@ -104,6 +106,7 @@ struct mt_fields {
>  struct mt_device {
>         struct mt_slot curdata; /* placeholder of incoming data */
>         struct mt_class mtclass;        /* our mt device class */
> +       struct timer_list release_timer;        /* to release sticky fingers */
>         struct mt_fields *fields;       /* temporary placeholder for storing the
>                                            multitouch fields */
>         int cc_index;   /* contact count field index in the report */
> @@ -212,7 +215,8 @@ static struct mt_class mt_classes[] = {
>                 .quirks = MT_QUIRK_ALWAYS_VALID |
>                         MT_QUIRK_IGNORE_DUPLICATES |
>                         MT_QUIRK_HOVERING |
> -                       MT_QUIRK_CONTACT_CNT_ACCURATE },
> +                       MT_QUIRK_CONTACT_CNT_ACCURATE |
> +                       MT_QUIRK_STICKY_FINGERS },
>         { .name = MT_CLS_EXPORT_ALL_INPUTS,
>                 .quirks = MT_QUIRK_ALWAYS_VALID |
>                         MT_QUIRK_CONTACT_CNT_ACCURATE,
> @@ -813,6 +817,9 @@ static void mt_touch_report(struct hid_device *hid, struct hid_report *report)
>
>         if (td->num_received >= td->num_expected)
>                 mt_sync_frame(td, report->field[0]->hidinput->input);
> +
> +       if (td->mtclass.quirks & MT_QUIRK_STICKY_FINGERS)
> +               mod_timer(&td->release_timer, msecs_to_jiffies(250));
>  }
>
>  static int mt_touch_input_configured(struct hid_device *hdev,
> @@ -1124,6 +1131,35 @@ static void mt_fix_const_fields(struct hid_device *hdev, unsigned int usage)
>         }
>  }
>
> +static void mt_release_contacts(struct hid_device *hid)
> +{
> +       struct hid_input *hidinput;
> +
> +       list_for_each_entry(hidinput, &hid->inputs, list) {
> +               struct input_dev *input_dev = hidinput->input;
> +               struct input_mt *mt = input_dev->mt;
> +               int i;
> +
> +               if (mt) {
> +                       for (i = 0; i < mt->num_slots; i++) {
> +                               input_mt_slot(input_dev, i);
> +                               input_mt_report_slot_state(input_dev,
> +                                                          MT_TOOL_FINGER,
> +                                                          false);
> +                       }
> +                       input_mt_sync_frame(input_dev);
> +                       input_sync(input_dev);
> +               }
> +       }
> +}
> +
> +static void mt_expired_timeout(unsigned long arg)
> +{
> +       struct hid_device *hdev = (void*)arg;
> +
> +       mt_release_contacts(hdev);
> +}
> +
>  static int mt_probe(struct hid_device *hdev, const struct hid_device_id *id)
>  {
>         int ret, i;
> @@ -1193,6 +1229,8 @@ static int mt_probe(struct hid_device *hdev, const struct hid_device_id *id)
>          */
>         hdev->quirks |= HID_QUIRK_NO_INIT_REPORTS;
>
> +       setup_timer(&td->release_timer, mt_expired_timeout, (long)hdev);
> +
>         ret = hid_parse(hdev);
>         if (ret != 0)
>                 return ret;
> @@ -1220,28 +1258,6 @@ static int mt_probe(struct hid_device *hdev, const struct hid_device_id *id)
>  }
>
>  #ifdef CONFIG_PM
> -static void mt_release_contacts(struct hid_device *hid)
> -{
> -       struct hid_input *hidinput;
> -
> -       list_for_each_entry(hidinput, &hid->inputs, list) {
> -               struct input_dev *input_dev = hidinput->input;
> -               struct input_mt *mt = input_dev->mt;
> -               int i;
> -
> -               if (mt) {
> -                       for (i = 0; i < mt->num_slots; i++) {
> -                               input_mt_slot(input_dev, i);
> -                               input_mt_report_slot_state(input_dev,
> -                                                          MT_TOOL_FINGER,
> -                                                          false);
> -                       }
> -                       input_mt_sync_frame(input_dev);
> -                       input_sync(input_dev);
> -               }
> -       }
> -}
> -
>  static int mt_reset_resume(struct hid_device *hdev)
>  {
>         mt_release_contacts(hdev);
> @@ -1266,6 +1282,8 @@ static void mt_remove(struct hid_device *hdev)
>  {
>         struct mt_device *td = hid_get_drvdata(hdev);
>
> +       del_timer_sync(&mt->release_timer);

Sorry for the noise: this should be td->release_timer, not  "mt".

Cheers,
Benjamin

> +
>         sysfs_remove_group(&hdev->dev.kobj, &mt_attribute_group);
>         hid_hw_stop(hdev);
>         hdev->quirks = td->initial_quirks;
>
> ---
>
> (the (1 << X) -> BIT(X) conversion needs to be done in a separate patch).
>
> From what I can read in the documentation, this might be enough. However,
> I wouldn't be surprised if this segfaults for whatever reasons.
> Also note that there is no guards between the execution of the release and
> the incoming events. So if you wait around 250 ms between 2 touches, nothing
> prevents a race between the timeout previously started and the actual true
> touches.
>
> But it might be enough to have a good test case and see if this works well in
> your case and in most Win8 devices.
>
> Cheers,
> Benjamin

  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-12 14:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-06 19:28 Missing release event for Synaptics touchscreen Arek Burdach
2017-05-09  8:35 ` Benjamin Tissoires
2017-05-09  9:20   ` Arek Burdach
2017-05-09 12:20     ` Benjamin Tissoires
2017-05-09 12:51       ` Arek Burdach
2017-05-09 14:02         ` Benjamin Tissoires
2017-05-09 23:17           ` Arek Burdach
2017-05-09 23:47             ` Andrew Duggan
2017-05-10  9:36               ` Arek Burdach
2017-05-11  9:48                 ` Martin Kepplinger
2017-05-11 10:12                   ` Arek Burdach
2017-05-11 11:22                     ` Martin Kepplinger
2017-05-11 11:28                       ` Benjamin Tissoires
2017-05-11 11:44                         ` Arek Burdach
2017-05-11 11:47                         ` Martin Kepplinger
2017-05-11 12:28                           ` Benjamin Tissoires
2017-05-11 12:50                             ` Martin Kepplinger
2017-05-11 14:30                               ` Arek Burdach
2017-05-11 14:45                                 ` Benjamin Tissoires
2017-05-11 15:38                                   ` Arek Burdach
2017-05-12  6:56                                     ` Martin Kepplinger
2017-05-12  7:25                                       ` Arek Burdach
2017-05-12  7:34                                         ` Martin Kepplinger
2017-05-12  7:39                                         ` Benjamin Tissoires
2017-05-12  7:57                                           ` Arek Burdach
2017-05-12 14:23                                             ` Benjamin Tissoires
2017-05-12 14:28                                               ` Benjamin Tissoires [this message]
2017-05-12 17:50                                                 ` Arek Burdach
2017-05-15 18:49                                                 ` Arek Burdach
     [not found]                                                 ` <c0ba39eb-c8d5-2473-36d9-ce7c605ef845@gmail.com>
2017-05-16  8:18                                                   ` Benjamin Tissoires
2017-05-16  9:34                                                     ` Benjamin Tissoires
2017-05-16  9:46                                                     ` Arek Burdach
2017-06-07  7:27                                                       ` Arek Burdach
2017-06-07 13:12                                                         ` Benjamin Tissoires
2017-06-07 17:58                                                           ` Arek Burdach
2017-05-11 11:36                       ` Arek Burdach
2017-05-11 11:36                       ` Martin Kepplinger

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