Inktank Ceph Enterprise Launch

Inktank Ceph Enterprise Launch

[Patrick McGarry]

Salutations Ceph-ers,

As many of you have noticed, Inktank has taken the wraps off the
latest and greatest magic for enterprise customers.  Wanted to share a
few thoughts from a community perspective on Ceph.com and answer any
questions/concerns folks might have.

http://ceph.com/community/new-inktank-ceph-enterprise-builds-on-what-makes-ceph-great/

Just to reiterate, there will be no changes/limitations to Ceph.  All
Inktank contributions to Ceph will continue to be open source and
useable.  If you have any questions feel free to direct them my way.
Thanks.


Best Regards,

Patrick McGarry
Director, Community || Inktank
http://ceph.com  ||  http://inktank.com
@scuttlemonkey || @ceph || @inktank

Re: Inktank Ceph Enterprise Launch

[Loic Dachary]

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Hi Patrick,

I wish Inktank was able to base its strategy and income on Free Software. Like RedHat does, for instance. In addition, as long as Inktank employs the majority of Ceph developers, publishing Calamari as a proprietary software is a conflict of interest. Should someone from the community bootstrap a Free Software alternative to Calamari, it will compete with it. And should Inktank employees participate in the development of this alternative, it would be against the best interest of Inktank. If that were not true, there would be no reason to publish Calamari as proprietary software in the first place.

Please reconsider your decision to publish Calamari as a proprietary software. 

Now is probably the right time to call for the creation of a Ceph foundation.

Cheers

On 30/10/2013 18:01, Patrick McGarry wrote:
> Salutations Ceph-ers,
> 
> As many of you have noticed, Inktank has taken the wraps off the
> latest and greatest magic for enterprise customers.  Wanted to share a
> few thoughts from a community perspective on Ceph.com and answer any
> questions/concerns folks might have.
> 
> http://ceph.com/community/new-inktank-ceph-enterprise-builds-on-what-makes-ceph-great/
> 
> Just to reiterate, there will be no changes/limitations to Ceph.  All
> Inktank contributions to Ceph will continue to be open source and
> useable.  If you have any questions feel free to direct them my way.
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Patrick McGarry
> Director, Community || Inktank
> http://ceph.com  ||  http://inktank.com
> @scuttlemonkey || @ceph || @inktank
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Loïc Dachary, Artisan Logiciel Libre


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Re: Inktank Ceph Enterprise Launch

[Don Talton (dotalton)]

I actually started a django app (no code pushed yet) for this purpose. I guessed that Inktank might come out with a commercial offering and thought a FOSS dashboard would be a good thing for the community too.

https://github.com/dontalton/kraken

I'd much rather contribute to a Inktank-backed dashboard if it were FOSS, than start a new project.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: ceph-users-bounces-idqoXFIVOFJgJs9I8MT0rw@public.gmane.org [mailto:ceph-users-
> bounces-idqoXFIVOFJgJs9I8MT0rw@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Loic Dachary
> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 10:29 AM
> To: Patrick McGarry; ceph-users-idqoXFIVOFJgJs9I8MT0rw@public.gmane.org; Ceph Devel
> Subject: Re: [ceph-users] Inktank Ceph Enterprise Launch
> 
> Hi Patrick,
> 
> I wish Inktank was able to base its strategy and income on Free Software.
> Like RedHat does, for instance. In addition, as long as Inktank employs the
> majority of Ceph developers, publishing Calamari as a proprietary software is
> a conflict of interest. Should someone from the community bootstrap a Free
> Software alternative to Calamari, it will compete with it. And should Inktank
> employees participate in the development of this alternative, it would be
> against the best interest of Inktank. If that were not true, there would be no
> reason to publish Calamari as proprietary software in the first place.
> 
> Please reconsider your decision to publish Calamari as a proprietary software.
> 
> Now is probably the right time to call for the creation of a Ceph foundation.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> On 30/10/2013 18:01, Patrick McGarry wrote:
> > Salutations Ceph-ers,
> >
> > As many of you have noticed, Inktank has taken the wraps off the
> > latest and greatest magic for enterprise customers.  Wanted to share a
> > few thoughts from a community perspective on Ceph.com and answer any
> > questions/concerns folks might have.
> >
> > http://ceph.com/community/new-inktank-ceph-enterprise-builds-on-
> what-m
> > akes-ceph-great/
> >
> > Just to reiterate, there will be no changes/limitations to Ceph.  All
> > Inktank contributions to Ceph will continue to be open source and
> > useable.  If you have any questions feel free to direct them my way.
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Patrick McGarry
> > Director, Community || Inktank
> > http://ceph.com  ||  http://inktank.com @scuttlemonkey || @ceph ||
> > @inktank
> > --
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> 
> --
> Loïc Dachary, Artisan Logiciel Libre

Re: Inktank Ceph Enterprise Launch

[Bernard Grymonpon]

The only thing that would be needed would be a good plugin/addon/agent to graphite, collectd, snmpd or anything along these lines, giving the correct metrics that identify the performance and status of the platform, well documented. 

Dashboards are up to the users themselfs (although a good example is most welcome in most situations).

On 30 Oct 2013, at 19:03, "Don Talton (dotalton)" <dotalton-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> I actually started a django app (no code pushed yet) for this purpose. I guessed that Inktank might come out with a commercial offering and thought a FOSS dashboard would be a good thing for the community too.
> 
> https://github.com/dontalton/kraken
> 
> I'd much rather contribute to a Inktank-backed dashboard if it were FOSS, than start a new project.
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ceph-users-bounces-idqoXFIVOFJgJs9I8MT0rw@public.gmane.org [mailto:ceph-users-
>> bounces-idqoXFIVOFJgJs9I8MT0rw@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Loic Dachary
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 10:29 AM
>> To: Patrick McGarry; ceph-users-idqoXFIVOFJgJs9I8MT0rw@public.gmane.org; Ceph Devel
>> Subject: Re: [ceph-users] Inktank Ceph Enterprise Launch
>> 
>> Hi Patrick,
>> 
>> I wish Inktank was able to base its strategy and income on Free Software.
>> Like RedHat does, for instance. In addition, as long as Inktank employs the
>> majority of Ceph developers, publishing Calamari as a proprietary software is
>> a conflict of interest. Should someone from the community bootstrap a Free
>> Software alternative to Calamari, it will compete with it. And should Inktank
>> employees participate in the development of this alternative, it would be
>> against the best interest of Inktank. If that were not true, there would be no
>> reason to publish Calamari as proprietary software in the first place.
>> 
>> Please reconsider your decision to publish Calamari as a proprietary software.
>> 
>> Now is probably the right time to call for the creation of a Ceph foundation.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> On 30/10/2013 18:01, Patrick McGarry wrote:
>>> Salutations Ceph-ers,
>>> 
>>> As many of you have noticed, Inktank has taken the wraps off the
>>> latest and greatest magic for enterprise customers.  Wanted to share a
>>> few thoughts from a community perspective on Ceph.com and answer any
>>> questions/concerns folks might have.
>>> 
>>> http://ceph.com/community/new-inktank-ceph-enterprise-builds-on-
>> what-m
>>> akes-ceph-great/
>>> 
>>> Just to reiterate, there will be no changes/limitations to Ceph.  All
>>> Inktank contributions to Ceph will continue to be open source and
>>> useable.  If you have any questions feel free to direct them my way.
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best Regards,
>>> 
>>> Patrick McGarry
>>> Director, Community || Inktank
>>> http://ceph.com  ||  http://inktank.com @scuttlemonkey || @ceph ||
>>> @inktank
>>> --
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>> majordomo
>>> info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
>>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Loïc Dachary, Artisan Logiciel Libre
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Re: Inktank Ceph Enterprise Launch

[Neil Levine]

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Loic, Don,

From an Inktank perspective, we're keen to see a wide variety of ecosystem
tools built around Ceph, especially from developers outside of Inktank. We
welcome open source or other commercial tools that people want to build and
if a more compelling or popular community tool comes along, we'd definitely
look to have our engineers work on it and potentially package it up for our
customers either as a complement or alternative to Calamari. The more
diverse innovation we have in the Ceph community, the better for everyone.

We may very well open source Calamari in the medium term but right now
there are some very specific things that our customers and partners want us
to do with the product, which don't lend themselves well to an open source
project. The most important aspect here is that we are absolutely committed
to ensuring every piece of storage functionality we develop sits in Ceph
and that the tools just provide a specific experience, not a different set
of capabilities.

In terms of a foundation, we definitely acknowledge the benefits this will
bring and share the same vision. We should have a proper community
conversation about what this may look like in practice - perhaps during the
next developer summit?

Neil



On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Don Talton (dotalton)
<dotalton-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>wrote:

> I actually started a django app (no code pushed yet) for this purpose. I
> guessed that Inktank might come out with a commercial offering and thought
> a FOSS dashboard would be a good thing for the community too.
>
> https://github.com/dontalton/kraken
>
> I'd much rather contribute to a Inktank-backed dashboard if it were FOSS,
> than start a new project.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ceph-users-bounces-idqoXFIVOFJgJs9I8MT0rw@public.gmane.org [mailto:ceph-users-
> > bounces-idqoXFIVOFJgJs9I8MT0rw@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Loic Dachary
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 10:29 AM
> > To: Patrick McGarry; ceph-users-idqoXFIVOFJgJs9I8MT0rw@public.gmane.org; Ceph Devel
> > Subject: Re: [ceph-users] Inktank Ceph Enterprise Launch
> >
> > Hi Patrick,
> >
> > I wish Inktank was able to base its strategy and income on Free Software.
> > Like RedHat does, for instance. In addition, as long as Inktank employs
> the
> > majority of Ceph developers, publishing Calamari as a proprietary
> software is
> > a conflict of interest. Should someone from the community bootstrap a
> Free
> > Software alternative to Calamari, it will compete with it. And should
> Inktank
> > employees participate in the development of this alternative, it would be
> > against the best interest of Inktank. If that were not true, there would
> be no
> > reason to publish Calamari as proprietary software in the first place.
> >
> > Please reconsider your decision to publish Calamari as a proprietary
> software.
> >
> > Now is probably the right time to call for the creation of a Ceph
> foundation.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > On 30/10/2013 18:01, Patrick McGarry wrote:
> > > Salutations Ceph-ers,
> > >
> > > As many of you have noticed, Inktank has taken the wraps off the
> > > latest and greatest magic for enterprise customers.  Wanted to share a
> > > few thoughts from a community perspective on Ceph.com and answer any
> > > questions/concerns folks might have.
> > >
> > > http://ceph.com/community/new-inktank-ceph-enterprise-builds-on-
> > what-m
> > > akes-ceph-great/
> > >
> > > Just to reiterate, there will be no changes/limitations to Ceph.  All
> > > Inktank contributions to Ceph will continue to be open source and
> > > useable.  If you have any questions feel free to direct them my way.
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > >
> > > Patrick McGarry
> > > Director, Community || Inktank
> > > http://ceph.com  ||  http://inktank.com @scuttlemonkey || @ceph ||
> > > @inktank
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> >
> > --
> > Loïc Dachary, Artisan Logiciel Libre
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