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From: Pavel Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@oracle.com>
To: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, sparclinux@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	x86@kernel.org, kasan-dev@googlegroups.com,
	borntraeger@de.ibm.com, heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com,
	davem@davemloft.net, willy@infradead.org,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	catalin.marinas@arm.com, sam@ravnborg.org,
	mgorman@techsingularity.net,
	Steve Sistare <steven.sistare@oracle.com>,
	daniel.m.jordan@oracle.com, bob.picco@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 7/9] arm64/kasan: add and use kasan_map_populate()
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 11:09:41 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOAebxv4h+8ej6JA_DZbXaNV5JsAk4MbcCLf1+2RvwKGF2+MxQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171013144319.GB4746@arm.com>

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> It shouldn't be difficult to use section mappings with my patch, I just
> don't really see the need to try to optimise TLB pressure when you're
> running with KASAN enabled which already has something like a 3x slowdown
> afaik. If it ends up being a big deal, we can always do that later, but
> my main aim here is to divorce kasan from vmemmap because they should be
> completely unrelated.

Yes, I understand that kasan makes system slow, but my point is why
make it even slower? However, I am OK adding your patch to the series,
BTW, symmetric changes will be needed for x86 as well sometime later.

>
> This certainly doesn't sound right; mapping the shadow with pages shouldn't
> lead to problems. I also can't seem to reproduce this myself -- could you
> share your full .config and a pointer to the git tree that you're using,
> please?

Config is attached. I am using my patch series + your patch + today's
clone from https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git

Also, in a separate e-mail i sent out the qemu arguments.

>
>> I feel, this patch requires more work, and I am troubled with using
>> base pages instead of large pages.
>
> I'm happy to try fixing this, because I think splitting up kasan and vmemmap
> is the right thing to do here.

Thank you very much.

Pavel

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From: Pavel Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@oracle.com>
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 7/9] arm64/kasan: add and use kasan_map_populate()
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 15:09:41 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOAebxv4h+8ej6JA_DZbXaNV5JsAk4MbcCLf1+2RvwKGF2+MxQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171013144319.GB4746@arm.com>

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> It shouldn't be difficult to use section mappings with my patch, I just
> don't really see the need to try to optimise TLB pressure when you're
> running with KASAN enabled which already has something like a 3x slowdown
> afaik. If it ends up being a big deal, we can always do that later, but
> my main aim here is to divorce kasan from vmemmap because they should be
> completely unrelated.

Yes, I understand that kasan makes system slow, but my point is why
make it even slower? However, I am OK adding your patch to the series,
BTW, symmetric changes will be needed for x86 as well sometime later.

>
> This certainly doesn't sound right; mapping the shadow with pages shouldn't
> lead to problems. I also can't seem to reproduce this myself -- could you
> share your full .config and a pointer to the git tree that you're using,
> please?

Config is attached. I am using my patch series + your patch + today's
clone from https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git

Also, in a separate e-mail i sent out the qemu arguments.

>
>> I feel, this patch requires more work, and I am troubled with using
>> base pages instead of large pages.
>
> I'm happy to try fixing this, because I think splitting up kasan and vmemmap
> is the right thing to do here.

Thank you very much.

Pavel

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From: pasha.tatashin@oracle.com (Pavel Tatashin)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v11 7/9] arm64/kasan: add and use kasan_map_populate()
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 11:09:41 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOAebxv4h+8ej6JA_DZbXaNV5JsAk4MbcCLf1+2RvwKGF2+MxQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171013144319.GB4746@arm.com>

> It shouldn't be difficult to use section mappings with my patch, I just
> don't really see the need to try to optimise TLB pressure when you're
> running with KASAN enabled which already has something like a 3x slowdown
> afaik. If it ends up being a big deal, we can always do that later, but
> my main aim here is to divorce kasan from vmemmap because they should be
> completely unrelated.

Yes, I understand that kasan makes system slow, but my point is why
make it even slower? However, I am OK adding your patch to the series,
BTW, symmetric changes will be needed for x86 as well sometime later.

>
> This certainly doesn't sound right; mapping the shadow with pages shouldn't
> lead to problems. I also can't seem to reproduce this myself -- could you
> share your full .config and a pointer to the git tree that you're using,
> please?

Config is attached. I am using my patch series + your patch + today's
clone from https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git

Also, in a separate e-mail i sent out the qemu arguments.

>
>> I feel, this patch requires more work, and I am troubled with using
>> base pages instead of large pages.
>
> I'm happy to try fixing this, because I think splitting up kasan and vmemmap
> is the right thing to do here.

Thank you very much.

Pavel
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Thread overview: 115+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-09 22:19 [PATCH v11 0/9] complete deferred page initialization Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-09 22:19 ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-09 22:19 ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-09 22:19 ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-09 22:19 ` [PATCH v11 1/9] x86/mm: setting fields in deferred pages Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-09 22:19   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-09 22:19   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-09 22:19   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-09 22:19 ` [PATCH v11 2/9] sparc64/mm: " Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-09 22:19   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-09 22:19   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-09 22:19   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-09 22:19 ` [PATCH v11 3/9] sparc64: simplify vmemmap_populate Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-09 22:19   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-09 22:19   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-09 22:19   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-09 22:19 ` [PATCH v11 4/9] mm: defining memblock_virt_alloc_try_nid_raw Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-09 22:19   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-09 22:19   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-09 22:19   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-09 22:19 ` [PATCH v11 5/9] mm: zero reserved and unavailable struct pages Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-09 22:19   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-09 22:19   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-09 22:19   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-10 13:44   ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-10 13:44     ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-10 13:44     ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-10 13:44     ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-10 14:09     ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-10 14:09       ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-10 14:09       ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-10 14:09       ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-10 14:30       ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-10 14:30         ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-10 14:30         ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-10 14:30         ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-09 22:19 ` [PATCH v11 6/9] x86/kasan: add and use kasan_map_populate() Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-09 22:19   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-09 22:19   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-09 22:19   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-09 22:19 ` [PATCH v11 7/9] arm64/kasan: " Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-09 22:19   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-09 22:19   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-09 22:19   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-10 15:56   ` Will Deacon
2017-10-10 15:56     ` Will Deacon
2017-10-10 15:56     ` Will Deacon
2017-10-10 15:56     ` Will Deacon
2017-10-10 17:07     ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-10 17:07       ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-10 17:07       ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-10 17:07       ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-10 17:10       ` Will Deacon
2017-10-10 17:10         ` Will Deacon
2017-10-10 17:10         ` Will Deacon
2017-10-10 17:10         ` Will Deacon
2017-10-10 17:41         ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-10 17:41           ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-10 17:41           ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-10 17:41           ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-13 14:10           ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-13 14:10             ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-13 14:10             ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-13 14:10             ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-13 14:43             ` Will Deacon
2017-10-13 14:43               ` Will Deacon
2017-10-13 14:43               ` Will Deacon
2017-10-13 14:43               ` Will Deacon
2017-10-13 14:56               ` Mark Rutland
2017-10-13 14:56                 ` Mark Rutland
2017-10-13 14:56                 ` Mark Rutland
2017-10-13 14:56                 ` Mark Rutland
2017-10-13 15:02                 ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-13 15:02                   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-13 15:02                   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-13 15:02                   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-13 15:09               ` Pavel Tatashin [this message]
2017-10-13 15:09                 ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-13 15:09                 ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-13 15:34                 ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-13 15:34                   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-13 15:34                   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-13 15:34                   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-13 15:44                 ` Will Deacon
2017-10-13 15:44                   ` Will Deacon
2017-10-13 15:44                   ` Will Deacon
2017-10-13 15:44                   ` Will Deacon
2017-10-13 15:54                   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-13 15:54                     ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-13 15:54                     ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-13 15:54                     ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-13 16:00                     ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-13 16:00                       ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-13 16:00                       ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-13 16:00                       ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-13 16:18                       ` Will Deacon
2017-10-13 16:18                         ` Will Deacon
2017-10-13 16:18                         ` Will Deacon
2017-10-13 16:18                         ` Will Deacon
2017-10-09 22:19 ` [PATCH v11 8/9] mm: stop zeroing memory during allocation in vmemmap Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-09 22:19   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-09 22:19   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-09 22:19   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-09 22:19 ` [PATCH v11 9/9] sparc64: optimized struct page zeroing Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-09 22:19   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-09 22:19   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-09 22:19   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-10 14:15 ` [PATCH v11 0/9] complete deferred page initialization Michal Hocko
2017-10-10 14:15   ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-10 14:15   ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-10 14:15   ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-10 17:19   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-10 17:19     ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-10 17:19     ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-10 17:19     ` Pavel Tatashin

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