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From: Attila-Mihaly Balazs <dify.ltd@gmail.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kraxel@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Make password based authentication the default for VNC
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 20:46:56 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOqyLXg+FSJ+aqvctV5X5+eKrUMMFsa+B3k7GWpWXBMwD42o=A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160607092443.GB20196@redhat.com>

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 12:24 PM, Daniel P. Berrange <berrange@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 12:13:06PM +0300, Attila-Mihaly Balazs wrote:
>> To improve the security of the embedded VNC server make password
>> based authentication the default when no authentication mechanism
>> is specified.
>
> VNC password authentication offers no meaningful level of security,
> so this is really just going to change long standing default behaviour
> of QEMU VNC configuration without any real world benefit IMHO.
>

While VNC password auth is quite limited (literally - to 8 characters
:-)) it's still much better than just having an open VNC server. For
example considering uppercase + lowercase + numbers (not even symbols)
we would get a ~48 bit key which should hold up causal bruteforcers.

> Anyone who actually wants credible real world security should be using
> the TLS and/or SASL options to VNC, never the awful legacy passwd based
> auth.
>

Agreed. The target of this patch is however not people who know that
they want security, but rather people who don't know it :-). Ie.
people who just run things with their default settings and stop as
soon as it seems to work, without conideration for security.

Regards,
Attila

> Regards,
> Daniel
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  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-07 17:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-07  9:13 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Make password based authentication the default for VNC Attila-Mihaly Balazs
2016-06-07  9:24 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-06-07 17:46   ` Attila-Mihaly Balazs [this message]
2016-06-07 20:35     ` Gerd Hoffmann

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