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From: Pintu Agarwal <pintu.ping@gmail.com>
To: Ezequiel Garcia <ezequiel@vanguardiasur.com.ar>
Cc: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
	Kernelnewbies <kernelnewbies@kernelnewbies.org>,
	Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mtd <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>,
	Sean Nyekjaer <sean@geanix.com>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Phillip Lougher <phillip@squashfs.org.uk>
Subject: Re: MTD: How to get actual image size from MTD partition
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2021 23:54:50 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOuPNLgfJGzp-RJBjydFDL1ZAvOd7=-MgXhnsb2eb_xFSLC66w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOuPNLj+DSigRY_AgHQnGKCK-Vm4ykQBR8UfnTi2UObORTcBFg@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 at 22:41, Pintu Agarwal <pintu.ping@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 at 17:33, Ezequiel Garcia
> <ezequiel@vanguardiasur.com.ar> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 at 08:45, Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at> wrote:
> > >
> > > Ezequiel,
> > >
> > > ----- Ursprüngliche Mail -----
> > > > [snip]
> > > >
> > > > Ouch, so surprised that after all these years someone is doing squashfs/mtdblock
> > > > instead of using ubiblock :-)
> > > >
> > > > Can we patch either Kconfig or add some warn_once on mtdblock
> > > > usage, suggesting to use ubiblock instead?
> > >
> > > a hint in Kconfig makes IMHO sense. Do you want to send a patch?
> > > A warning is too much since on some tiny embedded system with NOR flash mtdblock is still
> > > a good choice.
> > > ubiblock is mostly useful for NAND flash.
> > >
> > > > I remember there was still some use case(s) for mtdblock but I can't remember
> > > > now what was it, perhaps we should document the expectations?
> > > > (Is that for JFFS2 to mount?)
> > >
> > > a long time ago mount didn't accept character devices, so you had to pass mtdblockX to mount
> > > JFFS2.
> > > This limitation is gone.
> > >

Hi,

Just a further follow-up on this discussion.
Whether to use /dev/mtdblock or /dev/ubiblock for rootfs (squashfs)
mounting during boot.

As suggested here:
Instead of using this in kernel command line:
[    0.000000] Kernel command line: ... rootfstype=squashfs
root=/dev/mtdblock44 ubi.mtd=40,0,30 ...

I used this:
[    0.000000] Kernel command line: ... rootfstype=squashfs
ubi.mtd=40,0,30 ubi.block=0,0 root=/dev/ubiblock0_0 ...

The device is booting fine with ubiblock as well.
But, per say, I could not find any visible difference.
I just observed a slight improvement in boot time, but I need to
double-check on this, with few more reboot cycles.

Apart from this what are the other visible benefits of using ubiblock
which can be explained to be management or internal team ?
I could not find any documentation explaining the difference, except this one:
http://www.linux-mtd.infradead.org/doc/ubi.html#L_ubiblock

Can someone also point me to the respective driver code in case of
using /dev/mtdblock and /dev/ubiblock ?
Apart from theory I also want to check the impact at the code level..

Thanks,
Pintu

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Pintu Agarwal <pintu.ping@gmail.com>
To: Ezequiel Garcia <ezequiel@vanguardiasur.com.ar>
Cc: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
	Kernelnewbies <kernelnewbies@kernelnewbies.org>,
	 Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	 linux-mtd <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>,
	Sean Nyekjaer <sean@geanix.com>,
	 linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Phillip Lougher <phillip@squashfs.org.uk>
Subject: Re: MTD: How to get actual image size from MTD partition
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2021 23:54:50 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOuPNLgfJGzp-RJBjydFDL1ZAvOd7=-MgXhnsb2eb_xFSLC66w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOuPNLj+DSigRY_AgHQnGKCK-Vm4ykQBR8UfnTi2UObORTcBFg@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 at 22:41, Pintu Agarwal <pintu.ping@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 at 17:33, Ezequiel Garcia
> <ezequiel@vanguardiasur.com.ar> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 at 08:45, Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at> wrote:
> > >
> > > Ezequiel,
> > >
> > > ----- Ursprüngliche Mail -----
> > > > [snip]
> > > >
> > > > Ouch, so surprised that after all these years someone is doing squashfs/mtdblock
> > > > instead of using ubiblock :-)
> > > >
> > > > Can we patch either Kconfig or add some warn_once on mtdblock
> > > > usage, suggesting to use ubiblock instead?
> > >
> > > a hint in Kconfig makes IMHO sense. Do you want to send a patch?
> > > A warning is too much since on some tiny embedded system with NOR flash mtdblock is still
> > > a good choice.
> > > ubiblock is mostly useful for NAND flash.
> > >
> > > > I remember there was still some use case(s) for mtdblock but I can't remember
> > > > now what was it, perhaps we should document the expectations?
> > > > (Is that for JFFS2 to mount?)
> > >
> > > a long time ago mount didn't accept character devices, so you had to pass mtdblockX to mount
> > > JFFS2.
> > > This limitation is gone.
> > >

Hi,

Just a further follow-up on this discussion.
Whether to use /dev/mtdblock or /dev/ubiblock for rootfs (squashfs)
mounting during boot.

As suggested here:
Instead of using this in kernel command line:
[    0.000000] Kernel command line: ... rootfstype=squashfs
root=/dev/mtdblock44 ubi.mtd=40,0,30 ...

I used this:
[    0.000000] Kernel command line: ... rootfstype=squashfs
ubi.mtd=40,0,30 ubi.block=0,0 root=/dev/ubiblock0_0 ...

The device is booting fine with ubiblock as well.
But, per say, I could not find any visible difference.
I just observed a slight improvement in boot time, but I need to
double-check on this, with few more reboot cycles.

Apart from this what are the other visible benefits of using ubiblock
which can be explained to be management or internal team ?
I could not find any documentation explaining the difference, except this one:
http://www.linux-mtd.infradead.org/doc/ubi.html#L_ubiblock

Can someone also point me to the respective driver code in case of
using /dev/mtdblock and /dev/ubiblock ?
Apart from theory I also want to check the impact at the code level..

Thanks,
Pintu

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http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-mtd/

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Pintu Agarwal <pintu.ping@gmail.com>
To: Ezequiel Garcia <ezequiel@vanguardiasur.com.ar>
Cc: Phillip Lougher <phillip@squashfs.org.uk>,
	Kernelnewbies <kernelnewbies@kernelnewbies.org>,
	Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>, Sean Nyekjaer <sean@geanix.com>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mtd <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: MTD: How to get actual image size from MTD partition
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2021 23:54:50 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOuPNLgfJGzp-RJBjydFDL1ZAvOd7=-MgXhnsb2eb_xFSLC66w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOuPNLj+DSigRY_AgHQnGKCK-Vm4ykQBR8UfnTi2UObORTcBFg@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 at 22:41, Pintu Agarwal <pintu.ping@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 at 17:33, Ezequiel Garcia
> <ezequiel@vanguardiasur.com.ar> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 at 08:45, Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at> wrote:
> > >
> > > Ezequiel,
> > >
> > > ----- Ursprüngliche Mail -----
> > > > [snip]
> > > >
> > > > Ouch, so surprised that after all these years someone is doing squashfs/mtdblock
> > > > instead of using ubiblock :-)
> > > >
> > > > Can we patch either Kconfig or add some warn_once on mtdblock
> > > > usage, suggesting to use ubiblock instead?
> > >
> > > a hint in Kconfig makes IMHO sense. Do you want to send a patch?
> > > A warning is too much since on some tiny embedded system with NOR flash mtdblock is still
> > > a good choice.
> > > ubiblock is mostly useful for NAND flash.
> > >
> > > > I remember there was still some use case(s) for mtdblock but I can't remember
> > > > now what was it, perhaps we should document the expectations?
> > > > (Is that for JFFS2 to mount?)
> > >
> > > a long time ago mount didn't accept character devices, so you had to pass mtdblockX to mount
> > > JFFS2.
> > > This limitation is gone.
> > >

Hi,

Just a further follow-up on this discussion.
Whether to use /dev/mtdblock or /dev/ubiblock for rootfs (squashfs)
mounting during boot.

As suggested here:
Instead of using this in kernel command line:
[    0.000000] Kernel command line: ... rootfstype=squashfs
root=/dev/mtdblock44 ubi.mtd=40,0,30 ...

I used this:
[    0.000000] Kernel command line: ... rootfstype=squashfs
ubi.mtd=40,0,30 ubi.block=0,0 root=/dev/ubiblock0_0 ...

The device is booting fine with ubiblock as well.
But, per say, I could not find any visible difference.
I just observed a slight improvement in boot time, but I need to
double-check on this, with few more reboot cycles.

Apart from this what are the other visible benefits of using ubiblock
which can be explained to be management or internal team ?
I could not find any documentation explaining the difference, except this one:
http://www.linux-mtd.infradead.org/doc/ubi.html#L_ubiblock

Can someone also point me to the respective driver code in case of
using /dev/mtdblock and /dev/ubiblock ?
Apart from theory I also want to check the impact at the code level..

Thanks,
Pintu

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-20 18:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-16  6:42 MTD: How to get actual image size from MTD partition Pintu Agarwal
2021-07-16  6:42 ` Pintu Agarwal
2021-07-16  6:42 ` Pintu Agarwal
2021-07-16  7:16 ` Richard Weinberger
2021-07-16  7:16   ` Richard Weinberger
2021-07-16  7:16   ` Richard Weinberger
2021-07-16 15:41 ` Greg KH
2021-07-16 15:41   ` Greg KH
2021-07-16 15:41   ` Greg KH
2021-07-16 16:26   ` Richard Weinberger
2021-07-16 16:26     ` Richard Weinberger
2021-07-16 16:26     ` Richard Weinberger
2021-07-19  9:09     ` Pintu Agarwal
2021-07-19  9:09       ` Pintu Agarwal
2021-07-19  9:09       ` Pintu Agarwal
2021-07-19  9:28       ` Richard Weinberger
2021-07-19  9:28         ` Richard Weinberger
2021-07-19  9:28         ` Richard Weinberger
2021-07-20  6:17         ` Pintu Agarwal
2021-07-20  6:17           ` Pintu Agarwal
2021-07-20  6:17           ` Pintu Agarwal
2021-07-20  6:40           ` Richard Weinberger
2021-07-20  6:40             ` Richard Weinberger
2021-07-20  6:40             ` Richard Weinberger
2021-07-20  8:01             ` Pintu Agarwal
2021-07-20  8:01               ` Pintu Agarwal
2021-07-20  8:01               ` Pintu Agarwal
2021-07-21 20:54               ` Richard Weinberger
2021-07-21 20:54                 ` Richard Weinberger
2021-07-21 20:54                 ` Richard Weinberger
2021-07-22 11:10                 ` Pintu Agarwal
2021-07-22 11:10                   ` Pintu Agarwal
2021-07-22 11:10                   ` Pintu Agarwal
2021-07-27 21:16                   ` Richard Weinberger
2021-07-27 21:16                     ` Richard Weinberger
2021-07-27 21:16                     ` Richard Weinberger
2021-07-29 11:17                     ` Ezequiel Garcia
2021-07-29 11:17                       ` Ezequiel Garcia
2021-07-29 11:17                       ` Ezequiel Garcia
2021-07-29 11:45                       ` Richard Weinberger
2021-07-29 11:45                         ` Richard Weinberger
2021-07-29 11:45                         ` Richard Weinberger
2021-07-29 12:03                         ` Ezequiel Garcia
2021-07-29 12:03                           ` Ezequiel Garcia
2021-07-29 12:03                           ` Ezequiel Garcia
2021-07-29 17:11                           ` Pintu Agarwal
2021-07-29 17:11                             ` Pintu Agarwal
2021-07-29 17:11                             ` Pintu Agarwal
2021-08-20 18:24                             ` Pintu Agarwal [this message]
2021-08-20 18:24                               ` Pintu Agarwal
2021-08-20 18:24                               ` Pintu Agarwal
2021-08-22 14:21                               ` Ezequiel Garcia
2021-08-22 14:21                                 ` Ezequiel Garcia
2021-08-22 14:21                                 ` Ezequiel Garcia
2021-08-30 15:58                                 ` Pintu Agarwal
2021-08-30 15:58                                   ` Pintu Agarwal
2021-08-30 15:58                                   ` Pintu Agarwal
2021-10-29 16:12                                   ` Pintu Agarwal
2021-10-29 16:12                                     ` Pintu Agarwal
2021-10-29 16:12                                     ` Pintu Agarwal
2021-10-29 16:48                                     ` Ezequiel Garcia
2021-10-29 16:48                                       ` Ezequiel Garcia
2021-10-29 16:48                                       ` Ezequiel Garcia
2021-11-08 13:51                                       ` Pintu Agarwal
2021-11-08 13:51                                         ` Pintu Agarwal
2021-11-08 13:51                                         ` Pintu Agarwal
2021-11-12 13:58                                         ` Ezequiel Garcia
2021-11-12 13:58                                           ` Ezequiel Garcia
2021-11-12 13:58                                           ` Ezequiel Garcia

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