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From: Otavio Salvador <otavio@ossystems.com.br>
To: "Bottazzini, Bruno" <bruno.bottazzini@intel.com>
Cc: Patches and discussions about the oe-core layer
	<openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] systemd: split modules into packages
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 10:43:19 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAP9ODKoLq6NUSMsAj8vow_kVoF+erxkF2+PRKpeDqmEqwEG_yw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1427377220.2918.8.camel@bottazzini-ThinkPad-T430>

On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Bottazzini, Bruno
<bruno.bottazzini@intel.com> wrote:
> On Qui, 2015-03-26 at 08:56 -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 5:29 AM, Anders Darander <anders@chargestorm.se> wrote:
>> > * Bruno Bottazzini <bruno.bottazzini@intel.com> [150325 22:50]:
>> >
>> >> if one wants to launch a simple deamon, most modules are not
>> >> required.
>> >> He will be able to save space and exclude unwanted packages
>> >> from the final image.
>> >
>> > I like this, though I've got a few questions that I just noticed.
>> >
>> >> -PACKAGECONFIG ??= "xz ldconfig \
>> >> +PACKAGECONFIG ??= " \
>> >> +                   gcrypt \
>> >> +                   kmod \
>> >> +                   ldconfig \
>> >> +                   ${@bb.utils.contains('DISTRO_FEATURES', 'blkid', 'blkid', '', d)} \
>> >> +                   ${@bb.utils.contains('DISTRO_FEATURES', 'efi', 'efi', '', d)} \
>> >> +                   ${@bb.utils.contains('DISTRO_FEATURES', 'lz4', 'lz4', '', d)} \
>> >> +                   ${@bb.utils.contains('DISTRO_FEATURES', 'xz', 'xz', '', d)} \
>> >> +                   ${@bb.utils.contains('DISTRO_FEATURES', 'libidn', 'libidn', '', d)} \
>> >> +                   ${@bb.utils.contains('DISTRO_FEATURES', 'acl', 'acl', '', d)} \
>> >>                     ${@bb.utils.contains('DISTRO_FEATURES', 'pam', 'pam', '', d)} \
>> >>                     ${@bb.utils.contains('DISTRO_FEATURES', 'x11', 'xkbcommon', '', d)}"
>> >
>> > It might be worth noting that xz has gone from being explicitly enabled,
>> > to depend on a DISTRO_FEATURES.
>>
>> Agreed and we shouldn't explode the number of possible dsitro
>> features. I'd also prefer if xz were kept enable by default so we
>> don't make a behavior change under the hood.
>>
>> ...
>> >>  PACKAGECONFIG[resolved] = "--enable-resolved,--disable-resolved"
>> >> -PACKAGECONFIG[networkd] = "--enable-networkd,--disable-networkd"
>> >
>> > Why do you remove networkd as a PACKAGECONFIG?
>>
>> If there is a real reason for this, it must be recorded in commit log as well.
>
> Firstly,
>
> Thank you a lot for reviewing this Patch. I'd like to ask you guys to
> review the others patches too.
> I know this on will be the more complicated but there others will be
> faster to review.
>
>
> Now:
>
> Guys, if you continue this patch you will see that networkd will always
> be enabled. Systemd will always configure/make it however, the package
> will not be installed if the user wants to.
>
> With PACKAGECONFIG, we may not get everything "for free" as some data
> files will be installed regardless as well as some components from
> systemd cannot be disabled by their build system but we can run without
> them, for instance we can run without journald.
>
> The problem is understanding that although systemd is a single
> repository it contains multiple services and daemons in it that can run
> even without the core PID1, udev or the many helpers used to configure
> the system such as resolved,
> timedated, localed...
>
> All of these components are runtime independent, we can install or
> remove them and they should not create problems.

I understand however you can remove the files if networkd, for
example, is not in PACKAGECONFIG.

-- 
Otavio Salvador                             O.S. Systems
http://www.ossystems.com.br        http://code.ossystems.com.br
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  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-26 13:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <bruno.bottazzini@intel.com>
2015-01-21 20:00 ` [PATCH 0/2] kmod new packageconfig and dbus split package Bruno Bottazzini
2015-01-21 20:00   ` [PATCH 1/2] kmod: new PACKAGECONFIG debug and logging to help reduce binary size Bruno Bottazzini
2015-01-21 20:00   ` [PATCH 2/2] dbus: split tools package Bruno Bottazzini
2015-01-28 15:47   ` [PATCH 0/2] kmod new packageconfig and dbus split package Bottazzini, Bruno
2015-01-28 16:00     ` Burton, Ross
2015-01-28 18:55       ` Dan McGregor
2015-01-28 19:57         ` Burton, Ross
2015-02-02 12:39           ` Bottazzini, Bruno
2015-02-03 18:21 ` [PATCH] systemd: update version from 216 to 218 Bruno Bottazzini
2015-02-03 18:21   ` Bruno Bottazzini
2015-02-03 21:23     ` Randy Witt
2015-02-03 21:33       ` Bottazzini, Bruno
2015-02-04 11:48     ` Enrico Scholz
2015-02-04 17:04       ` Bottazzini, Bruno
2015-02-04 17:59         ` Enrico Scholz
2015-02-04 17:04 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] " Bruno Bottazzini
2015-02-04 17:04   ` [PATCH v2 1/2] systemd: update " Bruno Bottazzini
2015-02-04 17:04   ` [PATCH v2 2/2] systemd: split modules into packages Bruno Bottazzini
2015-02-06 18:45     ` Randy Witt
2015-03-02 20:21       ` Bottazzini, Bruno
2015-03-04  9:22         ` Anders Darander
2015-02-26 19:29 ` [PATCH] mkefidisk: change filesystem to be writeable on grub Bruno Bottazzini
2015-02-26 21:44   ` Randy Witt
2015-02-26 22:21     ` Bottazzini, Bruno
2015-02-27  1:05       ` randy.e.witt
2015-03-03 10:26         ` Patrick Ohly
2015-03-04 21:27 ` [PATCH 0/3] systemd and dbus split into packages Bruno Bottazzini
2015-03-04 21:27   ` [PATCH 1/3] dbus: split tools package Bruno Bottazzini
2015-03-05 11:01     ` Andreas Oberritter
2015-03-05 13:16       ` Bottazzini, Bruno
2015-03-05 14:09         ` Andreas Oberritter
2015-03-05 14:29           ` Bottazzini, Bruno
2015-03-05 14:49             ` Andreas Oberritter
2015-03-05 16:05               ` Bottazzini, Bruno
2015-03-04 21:27   ` [PATCH 2/3] systemd: verify if files test-udev and systemd-journal-flush exists Bruno Bottazzini
2015-03-04 21:27   ` [PATCH 3/3] systemd: split modules into packages Bruno Bottazzini
2015-03-05 14:28     ` Anders Darander
2015-03-05 16:14       ` Bottazzini, Bruno
2015-03-06  8:23         ` Anders Darander
2015-03-06 14:03           ` Bottazzini, Bruno
2015-03-06 22:51             ` Khem Raj
2015-03-09 13:37               ` Bottazzini, Bruno
2015-03-09 15:32                 ` Khem Raj
2015-03-09 16:08                   ` Bottazzini, Bruno
2015-03-25 21:49 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] systemd and dbus split " Bruno Bottazzini
2015-03-25 21:49   ` [PATCH 1/4] dbus: split tools package Bruno Bottazzini
2015-03-25 21:49   ` [PATCH 2/4] systemd: verify if files test-udev and systemd-journal-flush exists Bruno Bottazzini
2015-03-25 21:49   ` [PATCH 3/4] systemd: split modules into packages Bruno Bottazzini
2015-03-26  8:29     ` Anders Darander
2015-03-26 11:56       ` Otavio Salvador
2015-03-26 13:40         ` Bottazzini, Bruno
2015-03-26 13:43           ` Otavio Salvador [this message]
2015-03-26 13:53             ` Bottazzini, Bruno
2015-03-26 13:59               ` Otavio Salvador
2015-03-27 14:57           ` Anders Darander
2015-03-27 17:09             ` Bottazzini, Bruno
2015-03-27 17:11               ` Otavio Salvador
2015-03-27 17:13                 ` Bottazzini, Bruno
2015-03-26 17:25         ` Khem Raj
2015-03-26  8:52     ` Andreas Oberritter
2015-03-26 13:33       ` Bottazzini, Bruno
2015-03-26 13:38         ` Otavio Salvador
2015-03-25 21:49   ` [PATCH 4/4] systemd: v219 with stable fixes Bruno Bottazzini
2015-03-30 13:05     ` Bottazzini, Bruno
2015-03-30 13:40       ` Otavio Salvador
2015-03-30 17:42         ` Bottazzini, Bruno
2015-04-01 10:16     ` Jussi Kukkonen
2015-04-01 11:21       ` Anders Darander
2015-04-01 12:52       ` Bottazzini, Bruno
2015-04-15 15:01         ` Burton, Ross
2015-04-15 15:37           ` Bottazzini, Bruno
2015-04-15 15:53             ` Burton, Ross
2015-04-15 16:29               ` Bottazzini, Bruno

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