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* [wireless-regdb] Regulatory update for 6 GHz operation in Canada (CA)
@ 2022-04-18  1:41 Dennis Bland
  2022-04-19 19:53 ` Seth Forshee
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Dennis Bland @ 2022-04-18  1:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: wireless-regdb

The technical/operational requirements have been available since November 2021:

https://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/smt-gst.nsf/eng/sf11750.html

If this request is not already in the submission queue, I can look at
submitting a patch.

Thanks!

Dennis Bland

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* Re: [wireless-regdb] Regulatory update for 6 GHz operation in Canada (CA)
  2022-04-18  1:41 [wireless-regdb] Regulatory update for 6 GHz operation in Canada (CA) Dennis Bland
@ 2022-04-19 19:53 ` Seth Forshee
  2022-04-21  2:40   ` [wireless-regdb] [PATCH] " Dennis Bland
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Seth Forshee @ 2022-04-19 19:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dennis Bland; +Cc: wireless-regdb

On Sun, Apr 17, 2022 at 07:41:03PM -0600, Dennis Bland wrote:
> The technical/operational requirements have been available since November 2021:
> 
> https://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/smt-gst.nsf/eng/sf11750.html
> 
> If this request is not already in the submission queue, I can look at
> submitting a patch.

We don't have any patches pending for this, so feel free to send one!

Thanks,
Seth

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* Re: [wireless-regdb] [PATCH] Regulatory update for 6 GHz operation in Canada (CA)
  2022-04-19 19:53 ` Seth Forshee
@ 2022-04-21  2:40   ` Dennis Bland
  2022-05-11 14:39     ` Seth Forshee
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Dennis Bland @ 2022-04-21  2:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Seth Forshee; +Cc: wireless-regdb

With the 6 GHz band (U-NII-5, U-NII-6, U-NII-7, U-NII-8) in Canada, ISED
introduces the concept of a fixed PSD (Power Spectral Density) for all
supported 6 GHz channel widths.  Wider channel widths have a higher noise
floor, therefore specifying a fixed PSD allows wider channels to
operate at a higher EIRP to maintain the same S/N ratio as smaller
channel widths.

Clause 4.6.2 requires non-client (AP devices to have a maximum PSD of 5
dBm/MHz and a maximum EIRP of 30 dBm.  Clause 4.6.3 requires client (STA)
devices to have a maximum PSD of -1 dBm/MHz.  Clause 4.4 specifies a
maximum channel width of 320 MHz.  Clause 4.9 specifies indoor use only.
Operation on oil platforms, vehicles, boats, trains, and drones is
prohibited except on commercial aircraft above 10,000 feet altitude.
There is no IR (Initiate Radiation) restriction mentioned in the 6 GHz
specification.

The following equation is used to calculate the EIRP from the PSD and
channel width:

EIRP = PSD + 10*log(channel width in MHz)

Using the maximum PSD values of 5 and -1 for APs and STAs respectively,
the EIRP in dBm for a given channel width can be calculated:

Channel Width (MHz)     AP            STA
------------------------------------------------
20                      18            12
40                      21            15
80                      24            18
160                     27            21
320                     31 (max 30)   25 (max 24)

For channel widths up to 160 MHz, the maximum PSD is the limiting factor.
For the 320 MHz channel width, the maximum EIRP is the limiting factor.

Unfortunately, because there is currently no mechanism to specify
different power levels for AP and STA modes, and for different channel
widths, the smallest value has to be selected, which is 12 dBm.  This
will likely cause connectivity problems with larger channel widths until
these additional parameters can be added.

signed-off-by: Dennis Bland <dennis@dbperformance.com>
---

diff -up a/db.txt b/db.txt
--- a/db.txt 2022-04-08 09:54:37.000000000 -0600
+++ b/db.txt 2022-04-20 18:55:30.000000000 -0600
@@ -298,8 +298,9 @@ country BZ: DFS-JP
        (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (30)
        (5735 - 5835 @ 80), (30)

-# Source:
+# Sources:
 # https://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/smt-gst.nsf/vwapj/rss-247-i2-e.pdf/$file/rss-247-i2-e.pdf
+# https://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/smt-gst.nsf/eng/sf11750.html (6 GHz operation)
 country CA: DFS-FCC
        (2402 - 2472 @ 40), (30)
        (5150 - 5250 @ 80), (23), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW
@@ -307,6 +308,7 @@ country CA: DFS-FCC
        (5470 - 5600 @ 80), (24), DFS
        (5650 - 5730 @ 80), (24), DFS
        (5735 - 5835 @ 80), (30)
      + (5925 - 7125 @ 320), (12), NO-OUTDOOR

 # Source:
 # http://www.art-rca.org

On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 1:53 PM Seth Forshee <sforshee@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Apr 17, 2022 at 07:41:03PM -0600, Dennis Bland wrote:
> > The technical/operational requirements have been available since November 2021:
> >
> > https://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/smt-gst.nsf/eng/sf11750.html
> >
> > If this request is not already in the submission queue, I can look at
> > submitting a patch.
>
> We don't have any patches pending for this, so feel free to send one!
>
> Thanks,
> Seth
>

On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 1:53 PM Seth Forshee <sforshee@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Apr 17, 2022 at 07:41:03PM -0600, Dennis Bland wrote:
> > The technical/operational requirements have been available since November 2021:
> >
> > https://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/smt-gst.nsf/eng/sf11750.html
> >
> > If this request is not already in the submission queue, I can look at
> > submitting a patch.
>
> We don't have any patches pending for this, so feel free to send one!
>
> Thanks,
> Seth

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* Re: [wireless-regdb] [PATCH] Regulatory update for 6 GHz operation in Canada (CA)
  2022-04-21  2:40   ` [wireless-regdb] [PATCH] " Dennis Bland
@ 2022-05-11 14:39     ` Seth Forshee
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Seth Forshee @ 2022-05-11 14:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dennis Bland; +Cc: wireless-regdb

On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 08:40:51PM -0600, Dennis Bland wrote:
> With the 6 GHz band (U-NII-5, U-NII-6, U-NII-7, U-NII-8) in Canada, ISED
> introduces the concept of a fixed PSD (Power Spectral Density) for all
> supported 6 GHz channel widths.  Wider channel widths have a higher noise
> floor, therefore specifying a fixed PSD allows wider channels to
> operate at a higher EIRP to maintain the same S/N ratio as smaller
> channel widths.
> 
> Clause 4.6.2 requires non-client (AP devices to have a maximum PSD of 5
> dBm/MHz and a maximum EIRP of 30 dBm.  Clause 4.6.3 requires client (STA)
> devices to have a maximum PSD of -1 dBm/MHz.  Clause 4.4 specifies a
> maximum channel width of 320 MHz.  Clause 4.9 specifies indoor use only.
> Operation on oil platforms, vehicles, boats, trains, and drones is
> prohibited except on commercial aircraft above 10,000 feet altitude.
> There is no IR (Initiate Radiation) restriction mentioned in the 6 GHz
> specification.
> 
> The following equation is used to calculate the EIRP from the PSD and
> channel width:
> 
> EIRP = PSD + 10*log(channel width in MHz)
> 
> Using the maximum PSD values of 5 and -1 for APs and STAs respectively,
> the EIRP in dBm for a given channel width can be calculated:
> 
> Channel Width (MHz)     AP            STA
> ------------------------------------------------
> 20                      18            12
> 40                      21            15
> 80                      24            18
> 160                     27            21
> 320                     31 (max 30)   25 (max 24)
> 
> For channel widths up to 160 MHz, the maximum PSD is the limiting factor.
> For the 320 MHz channel width, the maximum EIRP is the limiting factor.
> 
> Unfortunately, because there is currently no mechanism to specify
> different power levels for AP and STA modes, and for different channel
> widths, the smallest value has to be selected, which is 12 dBm.  This
> will likely cause connectivity problems with larger channel widths until
> these additional parameters can be added.
> 
> signed-off-by: Dennis Bland <dennis@dbperformance.com>

Sorry for the delayed response. Thanks for the patch and the detailed
explanation. Everything here looks good to me.

The patch itself was corrupted. I fixed it up by hand, but for future
patches you might try 'git send-email', or if that won't work with your
email provider you can use 'git format-patch' and attach the patch file.

Also note that Signed-off-by should be capitalized. I fixed that when
applying.

Applied, thanks!

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