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From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan 
	<sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@linux.intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>,
	Thomas Bogendoerfer <tsbogend@alpha.franken.de>,
	James E J Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>,
	"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	Peter H Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	Kirill Shutemov <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan <knsathya@kernel.org>,
	X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux PCI <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-alpha@vger.kernel.org, linux-mips@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org, sparclinux@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Doc Mailing List <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, "Reshetova,
	Elena" <elena.reshetova@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 12/16] PCI: Add pci_iomap_host_shared(), pci_iomap_host_shared_range()
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 15:00:01 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPcyv4gZfG-Bm+_jGRjSHd8K+jO2M2NgXisqacanxGZgZKFaJA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bca75b04-f084-5bda-c071-249fd91aaa1e@linux.intel.com>

On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 2:28 PM Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com> wrote:
[..]
> >> But how do you debug the kernel then? Making early undebuggable seems
> >> just bad policy to me.
> > I am not proposing making the early undebuggable.
>
>
> That's the implication of moving the policy into initrd.
>
>
> If only initrd can authorize then it won't be possible to authorize
> before initrd, thus the early console won't work.

Again, the proposal is that the allow-list is limited to just enough
devices to startup and debug the initramfs and no more. Everything
else can be dynamic, and this allows for a powerful custom override
interface without needing to debate additional ABI like command line
overrides, and minimizes future changes to this kernel-internal
allow-list.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
	<sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@linux.intel.com>,
	Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan <knsathya@kernel.org>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Linux PCI <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	linux-mips@vger.kernel.org,
	James E J Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Peter H Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>,
	sparclinux@vger.kernel.org, "Reshetova,
	Elena" <elena.reshetova@intel.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>,
	Thomas Bogendoerfer <tsbogend@alpha.franken.de>,
	linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org,
	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Linux Doc Mailing List <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-alpha@vger.kernel.org, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Kirill Shutemov <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 12/16] PCI: Add pci_iomap_host_shared(), pci_iomap_host_shared_range()
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 15:00:01 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPcyv4gZfG-Bm+_jGRjSHd8K+jO2M2NgXisqacanxGZgZKFaJA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bca75b04-f084-5bda-c071-249fd91aaa1e@linux.intel.com>

On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 2:28 PM Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com> wrote:
[..]
> >> But how do you debug the kernel then? Making early undebuggable seems
> >> just bad policy to me.
> > I am not proposing making the early undebuggable.
>
>
> That's the implication of moving the policy into initrd.
>
>
> If only initrd can authorize then it won't be possible to authorize
> before initrd, thus the early console won't work.

Again, the proposal is that the allow-list is limited to just enough
devices to startup and debug the initramfs and no more. Everything
else can be dynamic, and this allows for a powerful custom override
interface without needing to debate additional ABI like command line
overrides, and minimizes future changes to this kernel-internal
allow-list.
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WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
	<sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@linux.intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>,
	Thomas Bogendoerfer <tsbogend@alpha.franken.de>,
	James E J Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>,
	"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@re>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 12/16] PCI: Add pci_iomap_host_shared(), pci_iomap_host_shared_range()
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 15:00:01 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPcyv4gZfG-Bm+_jGRjSHd8K+jO2M2NgXisqacanxGZgZKFaJA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bca75b04-f084-5bda-c071-249fd91aaa1e@linux.intel.com>

On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 2:28 PM Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com> wrote:
[..]
> >> But how do you debug the kernel then? Making early undebuggable seems
> >> just bad policy to me.
> > I am not proposing making the early undebuggable.
>
>
> That's the implication of moving the policy into initrd.
>
>
> If only initrd can authorize then it won't be possible to authorize
> before initrd, thus the early console won't work.

Again, the proposal is that the allow-list is limited to just enough
devices to startup and debug the initramfs and no more. Everything
else can be dynamic, and this allows for a powerful custom override
interface without needing to debate additional ABI like command line
overrides, and minimizes future changes to this kernel-internal
allow-list.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-12 22:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 199+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-09  0:36 [PATCH v5 00/16] Add TDX Guest Support (shared-mm support) Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2021-10-09  0:36 ` [PATCH v5 01/16] x86/mm: Move force_dma_unencrypted() to common code Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2021-10-20 16:11   ` Tom Lendacky
2021-10-20 16:11     ` Tom Lendacky
2021-10-20 16:11     ` Tom Lendacky via Virtualization
2021-10-20 16:43     ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2021-10-09  0:36 ` [PATCH v5 02/16] x86/tdx: Get TD execution environment information via TDINFO Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2021-10-09  0:36 ` [PATCH v5 03/16] x86/tdx: Exclude Shared bit from physical_mask Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2021-11-05 22:11   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-11-05 22:11     ` Sean Christopherson
2021-11-08 14:45     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-11-08 14:45       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-11-08 14:45       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-10-09  0:36 ` [PATCH v5 04/16] x86/tdx: Make pages shared in ioremap() Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2021-10-20 16:03   ` Tom Lendacky
2021-10-20 16:03     ` Tom Lendacky
2021-10-20 16:03     ` Tom Lendacky via Virtualization
2021-10-20 16:41     ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2021-10-09  0:37 ` [PATCH v5 05/16] x86/tdx: Add helper to do MapGPA hypercall Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2021-10-09  0:37 ` [PATCH v5 06/16] x86/tdx: Make DMA pages shared Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2021-10-20 16:33   ` Tom Lendacky
2021-10-20 16:33     ` Tom Lendacky
2021-10-20 16:33     ` Tom Lendacky via Virtualization
2021-10-20 16:45     ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2021-10-20 17:22       ` Tom Lendacky
2021-10-20 17:22         ` Tom Lendacky
2021-10-20 17:22         ` Tom Lendacky via Virtualization
2021-10-20 17:26         ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2021-10-09  0:37 ` [PATCH v5 07/16] x86/kvm: Use bounce buffers for TD guest Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2021-10-20 16:39   ` Tom Lendacky
2021-10-20 16:39     ` Tom Lendacky
2021-10-20 16:39     ` Tom Lendacky via Virtualization
2021-10-20 16:50     ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2021-10-20 17:26       ` Tom Lendacky
2021-10-20 17:26         ` Tom Lendacky
2021-10-20 17:26         ` Tom Lendacky via Virtualization
2021-10-09  0:37 ` [PATCH v5 08/16] x86/tdx: ioapic: Add shared bit for IOAPIC base address Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2021-10-09  0:37 ` [PATCH v5 09/16] x86/tdx: Enable shared memory confidential guest flags for TDX guest Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2021-10-09  0:37 ` [PATCH v5 10/16] PCI: Consolidate pci_iomap_range(), pci_iomap_wc_range() Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2021-10-09  0:37   ` Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2021-10-09  0:37 ` [PATCH v5 11/16] asm/io.h: Add ioremap_host_shared fallback Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2021-10-09  0:37 ` [PATCH v5 12/16] PCI: Add pci_iomap_host_shared(), pci_iomap_host_shared_range() Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2021-10-09  9:53   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-09  9:53     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-09  9:53     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-09 20:39     ` Dan Williams
2021-10-09 20:39       ` Dan Williams
2021-10-09 20:39       ` Dan Williams
2021-10-10 22:11       ` Andi Kleen
2021-10-10 22:11         ` Andi Kleen
2021-10-10 22:11         ` Andi Kleen
2021-10-12 17:42         ` Dan Williams
2021-10-12 17:42           ` Dan Williams
2021-10-12 17:42           ` Dan Williams
2021-10-12 18:35           ` Andi Kleen
2021-10-12 18:35             ` Andi Kleen
2021-10-12 18:35             ` Andi Kleen
2021-10-12 21:14             ` Dan Williams
2021-10-12 21:14               ` Dan Williams
2021-10-12 21:14               ` Dan Williams
2021-10-12 21:18               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-12 21:18                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-12 21:18                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-12 21:24                 ` Andi Kleen
2021-10-12 21:24                   ` Andi Kleen
2021-10-12 21:24                   ` Andi Kleen
2021-10-12 21:28               ` Andi Kleen
2021-10-12 21:28                 ` Andi Kleen
2021-10-12 21:28                 ` Andi Kleen
2021-10-12 22:00                 ` Dan Williams [this message]
2021-10-12 22:00                   ` Dan Williams
2021-10-12 22:00                   ` Dan Williams
2021-10-18 12:13             ` Greg KH
2021-10-18 12:13               ` Greg KH
2021-10-18 12:13               ` Greg KH
2021-10-12 18:36         ` Reshetova, Elena
2021-10-12 18:36           ` Reshetova, Elena
2021-10-12 18:38           ` Andi Kleen
2021-10-12 18:38             ` Andi Kleen
2021-10-12 18:38             ` Andi Kleen
2021-10-12 18:57             ` Reshetova, Elena
2021-10-12 18:57               ` Reshetova, Elena
2021-10-12 19:13               ` Dan Williams
2021-10-12 19:13                 ` Dan Williams
2021-10-12 19:13                 ` Dan Williams
2021-10-12 19:49                 ` Andi Kleen
2021-10-12 19:49                   ` Andi Kleen
2021-10-12 19:49                   ` Andi Kleen
2021-10-12 21:11           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-12 21:11             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-12 21:11             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-14  6:32             ` Reshetova, Elena
2021-10-14  6:32               ` Reshetova, Elena
2021-10-14  6:57               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-14  6:57                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-14  6:57                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-14  7:27                 ` Reshetova, Elena
2021-10-14  7:27                   ` Reshetova, Elena
2021-10-14  9:26                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-14  9:26                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-14  9:26                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-14 12:33                     ` Reshetova, Elena
2021-10-14 12:33                       ` Reshetova, Elena
2021-10-17 22:17                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-17 22:17                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-17 22:17                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-14 11:49                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-14 11:49                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-14 11:49                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-17 21:52               ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-17 21:52                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-17 21:52                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-18  7:03                 ` Reshetova, Elena
2021-10-18  7:03                   ` Reshetova, Elena
2021-10-18  0:55         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-18  0:55           ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-18  0:55           ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-18  1:10           ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-18  1:10             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-18  1:10             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-18 12:08         ` Greg KH
2021-10-18 12:08           ` Greg KH
2021-10-18 12:08           ` Greg KH
2021-10-10 22:22     ` Andi Kleen
2021-10-10 22:22       ` Andi Kleen
2021-10-10 22:22       ` Andi Kleen
2021-10-11 11:59       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-11 11:59         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-11 11:59         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-11 17:32         ` Andi Kleen
2021-10-11 17:32           ` Andi Kleen
2021-10-11 17:32           ` Andi Kleen
2021-10-11 18:22           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-11 18:22             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-11 18:22             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-18 12:15         ` Greg KH
2021-10-18 12:15           ` Greg KH
2021-10-18 12:15           ` Greg KH
2021-10-18 13:17           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-18 13:17             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-18 13:17             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-11  7:58   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-10-11  7:58     ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-10-11  7:58     ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-10-11 17:23     ` Andi Kleen
2021-10-11 17:23       ` Andi Kleen
2021-10-11 17:23       ` Andi Kleen
2021-10-11 19:09       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-11 19:09         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-11 19:09         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-12  5:31         ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-10-12  5:31           ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-10-12  5:31           ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-10-12 18:37           ` Andi Kleen
2021-10-12 18:37             ` Andi Kleen
2021-10-12 18:37             ` Andi Kleen
2021-10-09  0:37 ` [PATCH v5 13/16] PCI: Mark MSI data shared Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2021-10-09  0:37 ` [PATCH v5 14/16] virtio: Use shared mappings for virtio PCI devices Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2021-10-09  0:37 ` [PATCH v5 15/16] x86/tdx: Implement ioremap_host_shared for x86 Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2021-10-09  0:37 ` [PATCH v5 16/16] x86/tdx: Add cmdline option to force use of ioremap_host_shared Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2021-10-09  1:45   ` Randy Dunlap
2021-10-09  1:45     ` Randy Dunlap
2021-10-09  1:45     ` Randy Dunlap
2021-10-09  2:10     ` Kuppuswamy, Sathyanarayanan
2021-10-09 11:04   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-09 11:04     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-09 11:04     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-11  2:39     ` Andi Kleen
2021-10-11  2:39       ` Andi Kleen
2021-10-11  2:39       ` Andi Kleen
2021-10-11 12:04       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-11 12:04         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-11 12:04         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-11 17:35         ` Andi Kleen
2021-10-11 17:35           ` Andi Kleen
2021-10-11 17:35           ` Andi Kleen
2021-10-11 18:28           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-11 18:28             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-11 18:28             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-12 17:55             ` Andi Kleen
2021-10-12 17:55               ` Andi Kleen
2021-10-12 17:55               ` Andi Kleen
2021-10-12 20:59               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-12 20:59                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-12 20:59                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-12 21:18                 ` Andi Kleen
2021-10-12 21:18                   ` Andi Kleen
2021-10-12 21:18                   ` Andi Kleen
2021-10-12 21:30                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-12 21:30                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-12 21:30                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-15  5:50                     ` Andi Kleen
2021-10-15  5:50                       ` Andi Kleen
2021-10-15  5:50                       ` Andi Kleen
2021-10-15  6:57                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-15  6:57                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-15  6:57                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-15 13:34                         ` Andi Kleen
2021-10-17 22:34                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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