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* [PATCH iproute2] tc/netem: loss gemodel options fixes
@ 2014-05-10 20:34 Jay Vosburgh
       [not found] ` <CAPh34mf4ahPyTDf-tEhsNKSFBL6GYjES9+TTvDjhMf2YLTr04Q@mail.gmail.com>
  2014-05-15 21:03 ` Stephen Hemminger
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Jay Vosburgh @ 2014-05-10 20:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Stephen Hemminger; +Cc: netdev, netem


	First, the default value for 1-k is documented as being 0, but is
currently being set to 1. (100%).  This causes all packets to be dropped
in the good state if 1-k is not explicitly specified.  Fix this by setting
the default to 0.

	Second, the 1-h option is parsed correctly, however, the kernel is
expecting "h", not 1-h.  Fix this by inverting the "1-h" percentage before
sending to and after receiving from the kernel.  This does change the
behavior, but makes it consistent with the netem documentation and the
literature on the Gilbert-Elliot model, which refer to "1-h" and "1-k,"
not "h" or "k" directly.

	Last, fix a minor formatting issue for the options reporting.

Signed-off-by: Jay Vosburgh <jay.vosburgh@canonical.com>
---
 tc/q_netem.c | 11 ++++++++---
 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)

diff --git a/tc/q_netem.c b/tc/q_netem.c
index c83e301..8abe07f 100644
--- a/tc/q_netem.c
+++ b/tc/q_netem.c
@@ -307,7 +307,7 @@ static int netem_parse_opt(struct qdisc_util *qu, int argc, char **argv,
 				/* set defaults */
 				set_percent(&gemodel.r, 1.);
 				set_percent(&gemodel.h, 0);
-				set_percent(&gemodel.k1, 1.);
+				set_percent(&gemodel.k1, 0);
 				loss_type = NETEM_LOSS_GE;
 
 				if (!NEXT_IS_NUMBER())
@@ -325,6 +325,10 @@ static int netem_parse_opt(struct qdisc_util *qu, int argc, char **argv,
 					explain1("loss gemodel h");
 					return -1;
 				}
+				/* netem option is "1-h" but kernel
+				 * expects "h".
+				 */
+				gemodel.h = max_percent_value - gemodel.h;
 
 				if (!NEXT_IS_NUMBER())
 					continue;
@@ -625,10 +629,11 @@ static int netem_print_opt(struct qdisc_util *qu, FILE *f, struct rtattr *opt)
 	}
 
 	if (gemodel) {
-		fprintf(f, "loss gemodel p %s",
+		fprintf(f, " loss gemodel p %s",
 			sprint_percent(gemodel->p, b1));
 		fprintf(f, " r %s", sprint_percent(gemodel->r, b1));
-		fprintf(f, " 1-h %s", sprint_percent(gemodel->h, b1));
+		fprintf(f, " 1-h %s", sprint_percent(max_percent_value -
+						     gemodel->h, b1));
 		fprintf(f, " 1-k %s", sprint_percent(gemodel->k1, b1));
 	}
 
-- 
1.8.3.2

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* Re: [PATCH iproute2] tc/netem: loss gemodel options fixes
       [not found] ` <CAPh34mf4ahPyTDf-tEhsNKSFBL6GYjES9+TTvDjhMf2YLTr04Q@mail.gmail.com>
@ 2014-05-15 19:46   ` Jay Vosburgh
  2014-08-04 19:37     ` Stephen Hemminger
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Jay Vosburgh @ 2014-05-15 19:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Hagen Paul Pfeifer; +Cc: netdev, netem, Stephen Hemminger

Hagen Paul Pfeifer <hagen@jauu.net> wrote:

>Stephen, tomorrow I will take a look at Jay's patches.

	Just to make it clear what I believe is incorrect with regards
to the h and 1-h part:

net/sched/sch_netem.c:
[...]
                /* 4-states and Gilbert-Elliot models */
                u32 a1; /* p13 for 4-states or p for GE */
                u32 a2; /* p31 for 4-states or r for GE */
                u32 a3; /* p32 for 4-states or h for GE */
                u32 a4; /* p14 for 4-states or 1-k for GE */
[...]

	Note that a3 is "h for GE" vs a4 is "1-k for GE". Also, in
the actual drop function:

static bool loss_gilb_ell(struct netem_sched_data *q)
[...]
        case GOOD_STATE:
[...]
                if (prandom_u32() < clg->a4)
                        return true;
                break;
        case BAD_STATE:
[...]
                if (prandom_u32() > clg->a3)
                        return true;
[...]

	The test for clg->a3 is inverted as compared to the test for
clg->a4.  Hence, the kernel is using "h," not "1-h," and therefore tc
should pass in the value for h instead of 1-h as it does currently.

	-J

>On May 10, 2014 10:35 PM, "Jay Vosburgh" <jay.vosburgh@canonical.com>
>wrote:
>
>    First, the default value for 1-k is documented as being 0, but is
>    currently being set to 1. (100%). This causes all packets to be
>    dropped
>    in the good state if 1-k is not explicitly specified. Fix this by
>    setting
>    the default to 0.
>    
>    Second, the 1-h option is parsed correctly, however, the kernel is
>    expecting "h", not 1-h. Fix this by inverting the "1-h" percentage
>    before
>    sending to and after receiving from the kernel. This does change the
>    behavior, but makes it consistent with the netem documentation and the
>    literature on the Gilbert-Elliot model, which refer to "1-h" and
>    "1-k,"
>    not "h" or "k" directly.
>    
>    Last, fix a minor formatting issue for the options reporting.
>    
>    Signed-off-by: Jay Vosburgh <jay.vosburgh@canonical.com>
>    ---
>    tc/q_netem.c | 11 ++++++++---
>    1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>    
>    diff --git a/tc/q_netem.c b/tc/q_netem.c
>    index c83e301..8abe07f 100644
>    --- a/tc/q_netem.c
>    +++ b/tc/q_netem.c
>    @@ -307,7 +307,7 @@ static int netem_parse_opt(struct qdisc_util *qu,
>    int argc, char **argv,
>    /* set defaults */
>    set_percent(&gemodel.r, 1.);
>    set_percent(&gemodel.h, 0);
>    - set_percent(&gemodel.k1, 1.);
>    + set_percent(&gemodel.k1, 0);
>    loss_type = NETEM_LOSS_GE;
>    
>    if (!NEXT_IS_NUMBER())
>    @@ -325,6 +325,10 @@ static int netem_parse_opt(struct qdisc_util *qu,
>    int argc, char **argv,
>    explain1("loss gemodel h");
>    return -1;
>    }
>    + /* netem option is "1-h" but kernel
>    + * expects "h".
>    + */
>    + gemodel.h = max_percent_value - gemodel.h;
>    
>    if (!NEXT_IS_NUMBER())
>    continue;
>    @@ -625,10 +629,11 @@ static int netem_print_opt(struct qdisc_util
>    *qu, FILE *f, struct rtattr *opt)
>    }
>    
>    if (gemodel) {
>    - fprintf(f, "loss gemodel p %s",
>    + fprintf(f, " loss gemodel p %s",
>    sprint_percent(gemodel->p, b1));
>    fprintf(f, " r %s", sprint_percent(gemodel->r, b1));
>    - fprintf(f, " 1-h %s", sprint_percent(gemodel->h, b1));
>    + fprintf(f, " 1-h %s", sprint_percent(max_percent_value -
>    + gemodel->h, b1));
>    fprintf(f, " 1-k %s", sprint_percent(gemodel->k1, b1));
>    }
>    
>    --
>    1.8.3.2

---
	-Jay Vosburgh, jay.vosburgh@canonical.com

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH iproute2] tc/netem: loss gemodel options fixes
  2014-05-10 20:34 [PATCH iproute2] tc/netem: loss gemodel options fixes Jay Vosburgh
       [not found] ` <CAPh34mf4ahPyTDf-tEhsNKSFBL6GYjES9+TTvDjhMf2YLTr04Q@mail.gmail.com>
@ 2014-05-15 21:03 ` Stephen Hemminger
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Stephen Hemminger @ 2014-05-15 21:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jay Vosburgh; +Cc: netdev, netem

On Sat, 10 May 2014 13:34:58 -0700
Jay Vosburgh <jay.vosburgh@canonical.com> wrote:

> 
> 	First, the default value for 1-k is documented as being 0, but is
> currently being set to 1. (100%).  This causes all packets to be dropped
> in the good state if 1-k is not explicitly specified.  Fix this by setting
> the default to 0.
> 
> 	Second, the 1-h option is parsed correctly, however, the kernel is
> expecting "h", not 1-h.  Fix this by inverting the "1-h" percentage before
> sending to and after receiving from the kernel.  This does change the
> behavior, but makes it consistent with the netem documentation and the
> literature on the Gilbert-Elliot model, which refer to "1-h" and "1-k,"
> not "h" or "k" directly.
> 
> 	Last, fix a minor formatting issue for the options reporting.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Jay Vosburgh <jay.vosburgh@canonical.com>

Could you get review of original author of this loss model?
  Stefano Salsano <stefano.salsano@uniroma2.it>

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* Re: [PATCH iproute2] tc/netem: loss gemodel options fixes
  2014-05-15 19:46   ` Jay Vosburgh
@ 2014-08-04 19:37     ` Stephen Hemminger
  2014-08-05  8:09       ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Stephen Hemminger @ 2014-08-04 19:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jay Vosburgh; +Cc: Hagen Paul Pfeifer, netdev, netem

I went ahead and applied these. They make sense and got no response.

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH iproute2] tc/netem: loss gemodel options fixes
  2014-08-04 19:37     ` Stephen Hemminger
@ 2014-08-05  8:09       ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
  2014-08-05 18:29         ` Jay Vosburgh
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Hagen Paul Pfeifer @ 2014-08-05  8:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Stephen Hemminger; +Cc: Jay Vosburgh, netdev, netem

On 4 August 2014 21:37, Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org> wrote:

> I went ahead and applied these. They make sense and got no response.

Wait Stephen,

Jay do you compared your changes with the expected results? I mean did
you run tests that the Markov chain model is _now_  working correctly
(in all states)?

The setup will be easy: send 10000 packets, capture the packets and
'wc -l tcpdump -r trace.pcap' and compare to the expected number of
packets for a given markov state setup. Enough bugs here where the
should be no bugs at all. Some simple tests should be enough to get
rid of them.

Hagen

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* Re: [PATCH iproute2] tc/netem: loss gemodel options fixes
  2014-08-05  8:09       ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
@ 2014-08-05 18:29         ` Jay Vosburgh
  2014-08-05 21:25           ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Jay Vosburgh @ 2014-08-05 18:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Hagen Paul Pfeifer; +Cc: Stephen Hemminger, netdev, netem

Hagen Paul Pfeifer <hagen@jauu.net> wrote:

>On 4 August 2014 21:37, Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org> wrote:
>
>> I went ahead and applied these. They make sense and got no response.
>
>Wait Stephen,
>
>Jay do you compared your changes with the expected results? I mean did
>you run tests that the Markov chain model is _now_  working correctly
>(in all states)?
>
>The setup will be easy: send 10000 packets, capture the packets and
>'wc -l tcpdump -r trace.pcap' and compare to the expected number of
>packets for a given markov state setup. Enough bugs here where the
>should be no bugs at all. Some simple tests should be enough to get
>rid of them.

	I did test the changes when I originally submitted them, yes.
The kernel code is unmodified; what the patch changed is

	- the default for 1-k if not supplied as an option is documented
as 1-k=0, but was actually set to 1, i.e., drop everything in good state
if 1-k is not explicitly specified.

	- convert "1-h" to "h" as the kernel expects.  As I recall, I
originally noticed this when trying to specify small loss percentages in
the bad state, e.g., something like "netem loss gemodel 100 0 1" should
drop 1% in the bad state (1-h == 1%), but would instead drop 99%.

	I also posted some additional analysis:

From: Jay Vosburgh <jay.vosburgh@canonical.com>
To: Hagen Paul Pfeifer <hagen@jauu.net>
cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, netem@lists.linux-foundation.org,
    Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH iproute2] tc/netem: loss gemodel options fixes
Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 12:46:39 -0700

Hagen Paul Pfeifer <hagen@jauu.net> wrote:

>Stephen, tomorrow I will take a look at Jay's patches.

	Just to make it clear what I believe is incorrect with regards
to the h and 1-h part:

net/sched/sch_netem.c:
[...]
                /* 4-states and Gilbert-Elliot models */
                u32 a1; /* p13 for 4-states or p for GE */
                u32 a2; /* p31 for 4-states or r for GE */
                u32 a3; /* p32 for 4-states or h for GE */
                u32 a4; /* p14 for 4-states or 1-k for GE */
[...]

	Note that a3 is "h for GE" vs a4 is "1-k for GE". Also, in
the actual drop function:

static bool loss_gilb_ell(struct netem_sched_data *q)
[...]
        case GOOD_STATE:
[...]
                if (prandom_u32() < clg->a4)
                        return true;
                break;
        case BAD_STATE:
[...]
                if (prandom_u32() > clg->a3)
                        return true;
[...]

	The test for clg->a3 is inverted as compared to the test for
clg->a4.  Hence, the kernel is using "h," not "1-h," and therefore tc
should pass in the value for h instead of 1-h as it does currently.

	-J

---
	-Jay Vosburgh, jay.vosburgh@canonical.com

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH iproute2] tc/netem: loss gemodel options fixes
  2014-08-05 18:29         ` Jay Vosburgh
@ 2014-08-05 21:25           ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Hagen Paul Pfeifer @ 2014-08-05 21:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jay Vosburgh; +Cc: Stephen Hemminger, netdev, netem

Great Jay, I did not read that you tested/validated your patch.

Acked-by: Hagen Paul Pfeifer <hagen@jauu.net>

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