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From: Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [TF-A] Proposal: TF-A to adopt hand-off blocks (HOBs) for information passing between boot stages
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2021 11:24:54 +1300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPnjgZ0KVDm9SOeOkR=SD-RBB3nPuALnen8OT29AFK=-6QOc_A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0018d9b3-572e-d4eb-b9b9-1fc1d463d822@arm.com>

Hi Grant,
On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 at 23:19, Grant Likely <grant.likely@arm.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 29/03/2021 08:42, Simon Glass wrote:
>  > Hi Raghu,
>  >
>  > On Sat, 27 Mar 2021 at 03:59, <raghu.ncstate@icloud.com> wrote:
>  >
>  >> Julius, Simon,
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> It appears there are opinions you carry around UUID being complicated,
>  >> bloated, code being an eyesore, parsing these lists early with
> MMU/Caches
>  >> disabled, calculating checksums etc. While there is certainly a LOT of
>  >> truth to those statements, these concerns need to be put into
> context and
>  >> may not necessarily apply to all platforms running TF-A. Standardization
>  >> and interoperability may be valued more on some platforms and some
> of the
>  >> bloat and performance issues may be worth those tradeoffs. Some of these
>  >> concerns may not even apply on powerful CPU?s and SoC?s with lots of
>  >> memory. Also a quick grep for ?uuid? in the TF-A repository shows that
>  >> there is significant use of UUID?s for FIP, some SMC?s, secure
> partitions
>  >> etc so use of UUID is not something new to TF-A.
>  >>
>  >
>  > Fair enough. I hope, though, that if we can agree on a simple
>  > implementation like bloblist, then it becomes the standard and we can
> move
>  > away from the problems you mention with UUIDs.
>
> Ummm... I don't follow. How are UUIDs either complex or bloated? A UUIDs
> is simply a 128 bit number that is matched using a fixed length compare.
>
> What I like about the UUID scheme is it has collision avoidance built
> in, and it is adopted across multiple projects.

It's partly the UUIDs and partly the code that results (see earlier in
thread). But this is off-topic really, so I won't continue here.

- Simon

  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-29 22:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <CAHFG_=W8LGwtEMW=qrki4DixTtatc4tcdHM5Gekx2eoRHXe-Ng@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]   ` <CAPnjgZ1HK+Wnw0p+6bZddeMM804sxEmU_BJW8nAu64GG4D-9MA@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]     ` <010001785e96cf83-06ded054-1d8b-47f3-8096-f205a92305f0-000000@email.amazonses.com>
     [not found]       ` <CAHFG_=WueeAuVB9Z2kg635zEF8skCVAwENU52BoEiu9BGQGMzg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]         ` <MW2PR0102MB345115D85F03D5863BB3EDB8EE649@MW2PR0102MB3451.prod.exchangelabs.com>
2021-03-24 22:35           ` [TF-A] Proposal: TF-A to adopt hand-off blocks (HOBs) for information passing between boot stages Simon Glass
     [not found]           ` <0100017866b46da2-7ac1b1ae-03f2-4048-81f8-bd38fb59b99f-000000@email.amazonses.com>
2021-03-25  2:42             ` Julius Werner
     [not found]             ` <010001786743f45c-823a9973-7ac5-4f32-bd9d-a5c244d22b31-000000@email.amazonses.com>
2021-03-26 14:58               ` raghu.ncstate at icloud.com
2021-03-29  7:42                 ` Simon Glass
2021-03-29 10:18                   ` Grant Likely
2021-03-29 22:24                     ` Simon Glass [this message]
2021-03-29 23:48                 ` Julius Werner
2021-03-30 19:01                   ` raghu.ncstate at icloud.com
     [not found]             ` <010001786743a2ac-3d2da6df-c6f2-4e19-acaa-628ff7d466c2-000000@email.amazonses.com>
2021-04-08 11:55               ` Manish Pandey2
2021-04-08 17:24                 ` Harb Abdulhamid OS
2021-04-08 18:19                   ` Simon Glass
2021-04-08 18:58                     ` Mark Kettenis
2021-04-12 15:16                       ` François Ozog
2021-04-08 21:22                   ` Julius Werner
     [not found]               ` <01000178b1570317-d1af5a40-d575-49ef-9b91-06abe8d04f4b-000000@email.amazonses.com>
2021-04-08 15:50                 ` François Ozog
2021-04-30 12:13                   ` Manish Pandey2
2021-05-05 17:42                     ` Harb Abdulhamid OS
2021-05-05 22:49                       ` Simon Glass
     [not found]                       ` <010001793ebb08a4-29440b1d-778d-4a80-8def-619c2946e275-000000@email.amazonses.com>
2021-05-14 12:29                         ` Okash Khawaja
     [not found]                         ` <010001796adacdd6-3f239ac5-27bb-4c79-a878-30592929b893-000000@email.amazonses.com>
2021-05-16 10:18                           ` Joanna Farley
     [not found]                           ` <0100017974aff4fb-0af45782-0b60-4724-b300-822f8fe4b799-000000@email.amazonses.com>
2021-05-19  1:57                             ` Madhukar Pappireddy
     [not found]                             ` <0100017982591630-15bf1d32-8f0b-4b2a-bb4d-a2ba39760820-000000@email.amazonses.com>
2021-05-19  2:50                               ` Madhukar Pappireddy
2021-05-19 14:33                                 ` Joanna Farley
2021-05-19 14:41                                   ` Joanna Farley
2021-06-02 14:29                                 ` Joanna Farley
2021-06-02 15:26                                   ` Joanna Farley
2021-06-10 21:57                                     ` Manish Pandey2
2021-06-11 11:51                                       ` François Ozog
2021-06-17 19:37                                         ` Simon Glass
2021-06-17 19:47                                           ` François Ozog
2021-07-08 11:18                                             ` Manish Pandey2
2021-07-08 11:48                                               ` François Ozog
     [not found]                                             ` <0100017a8648f3d5-98a3bce6-b2dc-48cb-84e4-c292bcef5622-000000@email.amazonses.com>
2021-07-08 21:56                                               ` Julius Werner
2021-07-08 22:31                                                 ` Simon Glass
2021-07-09  1:08                                                   ` Julius Werner
2021-07-09  7:05                                                     ` François Ozog
2021-07-09 10:07                                                       ` Daniel Thompson
2021-07-09 15:43                                                         ` Manish Pandey2
2021-07-09 23:06                                                           ` Julius Werner
2021-07-15 14:25                                                             ` François Ozog
2021-07-15 15:03                                                               ` Simon Glass
2021-07-16  2:23                                                                 ` Julius Werner
     [not found]                                           ` <0100017a1b8bea04-71a338d9-55ac-4163-80c9-2c350d62d425-000000@email.amazonses.com>
2021-06-17 23:45                                             ` raghu.ncstate
2021-06-18 14:43                                               ` Ron Minnich
2021-06-18 16:45                                               ` Simon Glass
2021-06-18 17:17                                               ` Tom Rini
2021-06-21  9:57                                                 ` François Ozog
2021-05-19 21:50                               ` Jeremy Linton
     [not found]                               ` <01000179869c5dac-96846caa-3f3d-4987-8d70-6843f9e46090-000000@email.amazonses.com>
2021-05-20  5:34                                 ` François Ozog
2021-05-20 10:34                               ` Julian Hall
2021-05-20 16:42                                 ` Simon Glass
2021-06-21 10:32                                   ` Alexander Graf
2021-06-21 10:38                                     ` François Ozog
     [not found]                             ` <010001798258ec0b-a221c5f8-618a-456c-9068-b7cc44aa9dec-000000@email.amazonses.com>
2021-05-20  5:45                               ` François Ozog

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