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From: Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [PATCH 2/2] usb: eth: add Realtek RTL8152B/RTL8153 driver
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 20:09:58 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPnjgZ0kkeM+2+mg-H-mdEa7d9hXP2iDqN2Z5qXS7dqNTuL5kg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5651F6DF.6000807@wwwdotorg.org>

+Tom

Hi Stephen,

On 22 November 2015 at 10:09, Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org> wrote:
> On 11/21/2015 09:50 AM, Simon Glass wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 21 November 2015 at 00:27, Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org> wrote:
>>> On 11/20/2015 10:38 AM, Marek Vasut wrote:
>>>> On Friday, November 20, 2015 at 06:35:41 PM, Simon Glass wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>>> On 19 November 2015 at 06:12, Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de> wrote:
>>>>>> On Thursday, November 19, 2015 at 01:49:16 PM, Anand Moon wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Marek,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry for the mess: Please accept my apology, I will not in the future.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cool, thanks! :)
>>>>>
>>>>> This driver should use driver model, right?
>>>>
>>>> Of course.
>>>
>>> Hopefully it can support both DM and non-DM?
>>
>> Why support non-DM? Isn't that just going to slow us down?
>
> I don't think DM is activated everywhere for Ethernet yet is it?
>
> I can't see why it'd slow us down. The non-DM code should be quite
> static, and only have any effect on DM conversion whenever we finally
> pull the trigger to remove it. It shouldn't be any kind of maintenance
> issue in the interim.

The conversion to driver model is a large and complex undertaking. It
cannot be done by a small group of people. If we add new features to
the 'old world' then there is a temptation for boards to stay there,
which slows the entire migration process.  Why convert your board to
driver model if all the shiny new drivers you want work without it? We
can only remove the old code for a subsystem when every board that
uses it is either converted or moved.

Adding a new driver that does not use driver model may add a board
that uses it. That's one more conversion to do and one more hurdle to
jump.

We will be much more successful if we avoid adding new features to
pre-driver-model code.

Regards,
Simon

  reply	other threads:[~2015-11-23  3:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-13 16:03 [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/2] checkpatch: ignore request to use ether_addr_copy() Stephen Warren
2015-11-13 16:03 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 2/2] usb: eth: add Realtek RTL8152B/RTL8153 driver Stephen Warren
2015-11-14  1:13   ` Marek Vasut
2015-11-16 17:32     ` Stephen Warren
2015-11-17  7:18       ` Ted
2015-11-17  8:04         ` Marek Vasut
2015-11-19  6:07         ` Anand Moon
2015-11-19 16:51           ` Stephen Warren
2015-11-19 17:00             ` Lukasz Majewski
2015-11-19 17:00             ` Marek Vasut
2015-11-19 10:58         ` Anand Moon
2015-11-19 11:12           ` Marek Vasut
2015-11-19 12:49             ` Anand Moon
2015-11-19 13:12               ` Marek Vasut
2015-11-20 17:35                 ` Simon Glass
2015-11-20 17:38                   ` Marek Vasut
2015-11-21  4:10                     ` Anand Moon
2015-11-22 17:12                       ` Stephen Warren
2015-11-22 19:25                         ` Anand Moon
2015-11-21  7:27                     ` Stephen Warren
2015-11-21 16:50                       ` Simon Glass
2015-11-22 17:09                         ` Stephen Warren
2015-11-23  3:09                           ` Simon Glass [this message]
2015-11-23 17:16                             ` Stephen Warren
2015-11-25  5:30                               ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 " Ted Chen
2015-11-25  9:09                                 ` Anand Moon
2015-11-26 16:58                                 ` Marek Vasut
2015-11-30 22:07                                 ` Joe Hershberger
2015-12-01 11:24                                 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 " Ted Chen
2015-12-01 15:10                                   ` Marek Vasut
2015-12-01 16:31                                     ` Stephen Warren
2015-12-01 17:11                                       ` Marek Vasut
2015-12-01 16:32                                   ` Simon Glass
2016-01-13 18:27                                   ` Stephen Warren
2016-01-14  4:37                                     ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v4 2/2] usb: eth: add Realtek RTL8152B/RTL8153 DRIVER Ted Chen
2016-01-14  4:42                                       ` Marek Vasut
2016-01-14  5:22                                         ` Ted Chen
2016-01-14  5:37                                           ` Marek Vasut
2016-01-20  6:24                                             ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v5 " Ted Chen
2016-01-20 13:08                                               ` Marek Vasut
2016-01-20 16:52                                               ` Stephen Warren
2016-01-20 20:10                                                 ` Anand Moon
2016-01-20 20:34                                                   ` Marek Vasut
2016-01-21  8:55                                                     ` Anand Moon
2016-01-21 10:12                                                       ` Marek Vasut
2016-01-22 19:50                                               ` Joe Hershberger
2016-01-22 20:00                                                 ` Marek Vasut
2016-01-22 20:41                                                   ` Joe Hershberger
2016-01-23  0:42                                                     ` Marek Vasut
2016-01-23 15:23                                                       ` Marek Vasut
2016-01-23 18:55                                                         ` Anand Moon
2016-01-23 19:38                                                           ` Marek Vasut
2016-01-25  3:42                                                             ` Ted
2016-01-25  3:47                                                               ` Marek Vasut
2015-11-14  0:56 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/2] checkpatch: ignore request to use ether_addr_copy() Marek Vasut
2015-11-23 23:36 ` Joe Hershberger
2015-12-15 23:34   ` Stephen Warren
2015-12-15 23:41     ` Joe Hershberger
     [not found]       ` <56969621.30204@wwwdotorg.org>
2016-01-20 20:47         ` Stephen Warren
2016-01-20 21:00           ` Tom Rini
2016-01-20 21:04             ` Stephen Warren
2016-01-21  1:22               ` Tom Rini
2016-01-21  4:09                 ` Joe Hershberger
2016-01-25 21:28 ` [U-Boot] [U-Boot, " Tom Rini

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