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From: Allen Samuels <Allen.Samuels@sandisk.com>
To: Casey Bodley <cbodley@redhat.com>, Matt Benjamin <mbenjamin@redhat.com>
Cc: Sage Weil <sweil@redhat.com>,
	"ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org" <ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: inline vector container
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 22:06:57 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CY1PR0201MB1897486B3D49159CEDCD3007E8D00@CY1PR0201MB1897.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <59448274.31581132.1454534771209.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com>

I would say that just pulling the latest boost into the tree and using it for builds is the best path forward. But I'm in no way competent to make that kind of change in the build system -- especially during the automake cmake changeover period.


Allen Samuels
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-----Original Message-----
From: Casey Bodley [mailto:cbodley@redhat.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 1:26 PM
To: Matt Benjamin <mbenjamin@redhat.com>
Cc: Sage Weil <sweil@redhat.com>; Allen Samuels <Allen.Samuels@sandisk.com>; ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: inline vector container

Hi Allen,

I did spend some time a couple months ago experimenting with a custom allocator with inline storage for standard containers. You can find my branch on github at https://github.com/cbodley/ceph/commits/wip-preallocator.

I was aiming for a general solution that worked with non-contiguous containers, but couldn't find a good way to handle deallocations. So the approach was really only a good fit for std::vector.

I also had trouble getting it to do the right thing with the copy and move operators. I found that it was trying to use the new allocator to release memory that came from the old allocator. Presumably there's a way to make this work using std::allocator_traits; have you had better luck here? I'd love to see your prototype.

I tend to agree that we should go with the boost solution if we can. But if
a) we can't use boost::small_vector in the near-term due to versioning, and
b) we can get a custom version tested and working, it might be worth pursuing.

Casey

----- Original Message -----
> Hi,
>
> I think we should go with small_vector for this role, yes.  I found
> two issues.  First, there are critical defects in small_vector prior
> to boost 1.6.0.  Second, though it is header-only, the coupling with
> related version-specific boost types (container, allocator, respective
> detail types, and platform-specific selectors...) seems to make
> pulling it in separately pretty unrealistic as an option.  I looked at
> the cost of pulling in and selectively compiling (libs) an entire
> boost 1.6, and that went a lot easier (added less than a minute to my build time).
>
> Matt
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Sage Weil" <sweil@redhat.com>
> > To: "Allen Samuels" <Allen.Samuels@sandisk.com>
> > Cc: ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org, mbenjami@redhat.com,
> > cbodley@redhat.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2016 3:04:57 PM
> > Subject: Re: inline vector container
> >
> > On Wed, 3 Feb 2016, Allen Samuels wrote:
> > > One thing that the code base needs is a simple vector container
> > > that is optimized for a small number of elements, i.e., for small
> > > element counts we avoid the malloc/free overhead. But fully
> > > supports being resized into larger containers that are unbounded.
> > > Of course it will need to follow all of the proper object
> > > copy/move semantics so that things like unique_ptr, etc work
> > > correctly.
> > >
> > > I heard rumors that there was one available in the boost world,
> > > but I can’t seem to find it. Do you know about one being
> > > available?
> >
> > http://www.boost.org/doc/libs/1_60_0/doc/html/boost/container/small_
> > vector.html
> >
> > > I’ve been prototyping one myself, just to get re-familiar with all
> > > of the
> > > C++11 move sementics, and trivial constructors, etc.
> > >
> > > The code is pretty complete, but the testing gets rather involved.
> > > There’s
> > > no reason to contain this if it’s available elsewhere. But if it
> > > isn’t I plan on continuing this…
> >
> > I think Casey had prototyped something similar using a custom
> > allocator, too, but I didn't actually look at the result.  And Matt
> > talked about just pulling the boost one in-tree until we get updated
> > boost in the supported distros, but I forget if he ran into problems there or not...
> >
> > sage
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-03 22:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2016-02-03 20:04 ` inline vector container Sage Weil
2016-02-03 20:57   ` Matt Benjamin
2016-02-03 21:21     ` Milosz Tanski
2016-02-03 21:24       ` Matt Benjamin
2016-02-03 21:26     ` Casey Bodley
2016-02-03 22:06       ` Allen Samuels [this message]
2016-02-03 22:10         ` Matt Benjamin
2016-02-04 12:06           ` Willem Jan Withagen
2016-02-04 14:42             ` Matt Benjamin
2016-02-04 17:01               ` Willem Jan Withagen
2016-02-04 17:03                 ` Matt Benjamin

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