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From: Pantelis Antoniou <pantelis.antoniou@konsulko.com>
To: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
Cc: Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>,
	Rob Herring <robherring2@gmail.com>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>,
	Matt Porter <matt.porter@linaro.org>,
	Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Alison Chaiken <Alison_Chaiken@mentor.com>,
	Dinh Nguyen <dinh.linux@gmail.com>, Jan Lubbe <jluebbe@lasnet.de>,
	Alexander Sverdlin <alexander.sverdlin@nsn.com>,
	Michael Stickel <ms@mycable.de>,
	Dirk Behme <dirk.behme@gmail.com>,
	Alan Tull <delicious.quinoa@gmail.com>,
	Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
	Michael Bohan <mbohan@codeaurora.org>,
	Ionut Nicu <ioan.nicu.ext@nsn.com>,
	Michal Simek <monstr@monstr.eu>,
	Matt Ranostay <mranostay@gmail.com>,
	Joel Becker <jlbec@evilplan.org>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, Wolfram Sang <wsa@the-dreams.de>,
	linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org, Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	linux-spi@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Pete Popov <pete.popov@konsulko.com>,
	Dan Malek <dan.malek@konsulko.com>,
	Georgi Vlaev <georgi.vlaev@konsulko.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/6] of: Do not free memory at of_node_release
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 00:02:27 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <EC6D689C-ED96-48B2-BF90-92492FC65791@konsulko.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140624203357.GA23620@roeck-us.net>

Hi Guenter,

On Jun 24, 2014, at 11:33 PM, Guenter Roeck wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 11:23:35PM +0300, Pantelis Antoniou wrote:
>> Hi Grant,
>> 
>> On Jun 24, 2014, at 11:21 PM, Grant Likely wrote:
>> 
>>> On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 17:23:35 +0300, Pantelis Antoniou <pantelis.antoniou@konsulko.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Grant,
>>>> 
>>>> On Jun 24, 2014, at 5:10 PM, Grant Likely wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, 22 Jun 2014 12:40:34 +0300, Pantelis Antoniou <pantelis.antoniou@konsulko.com> wrote:
>>>>>> The life-cycle of nodes and properties does not allow us to release
>>>>>> the memory taken by a device_node. Pointer to properties and nodes
>>>>>> might still be in use in drivers, so any memory free'ing is dangerous.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Simply move all the properties to the deadprops list, and the node
>>>>>> itself to of_alldeadnodes until the life-cycles issues are resolved.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ummm. this looks wrong. The release function is supposed to be the place
>>>>> to do the freeing, and with our discussion the other day about moving to
>>>>> rcu, but keeping of_node_get/put() for anything that needs to hold a
>>>>> long term reference, that means the lifecycle issues are pretty much
>>>>> resolved. I don't think this patch is necessary.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Well, I thought about it too. This is the culmination of that process :)
>>>> 
>>>> The problem is not the node life-cycle, it's the properties. We can't
>>>> tell for sure who and where has a pointer to the properties of the node,
>>>> and when we free the node, the current code iterates over the properties
>>>> list and frees them. This works only because in my tests, of_node_release
>>>> only gets called when using overlays created nodes.
>>> 
>>> If a caller want's to use the value of a property, then it needs to
>>> of_node_get() the node. Property lifecycle is strictly attached to the
>>> lifecycle of it's node.
>>> 
>> 
>> Taking bets if that's always the case?
>> 
> For my part I prefer to take the bet (and handle the consequences) over
> a potential memory leak.
> 

It's your call really. But let me just demonstrate why this is harder than it appears,
with a small example.

The of_node_get() method is not invoked for instance when reading string properties.

The of_property_read_string() method will return a pointer to the string property value.
That means that potentially all drivers that call of_property_read_string() will have to
be converted to taking a reference of the node using of_node_get(), or the of_property_read_string()
must do so in the background.

Also note that the release method is never called on non-dynamic node since that memory is
never released.

FWIW, the overlay code until now operated just fine releasing the nodes, but I can't 
guarantee you won't be screwed sometime by an errand driver :)

> Guenter

Regards

-- Pantelis

  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-24 21:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-22  9:40 [PATCH 0/6] OF: Fixes preparing transactions/overlays Pantelis Antoniou
2014-06-22  9:40 ` [PATCH 1/6] of: Do not free memory at of_node_release Pantelis Antoniou
2014-06-24 14:10   ` Grant Likely
2014-06-24 14:23     ` Pantelis Antoniou
2014-06-24 20:21       ` Grant Likely
2014-06-24 20:23         ` Pantelis Antoniou
2014-06-24 20:33           ` Guenter Roeck
2014-06-24 21:02             ` Pantelis Antoniou [this message]
2014-06-24 23:20               ` Guenter Roeck
2014-06-25 19:24           ` Grant Likely
2014-06-24 14:53     ` Guenter Roeck
2014-06-22  9:40 ` [PATCH 2/6] OF: Add [__]of_find_node_by_full_name Pantelis Antoniou
2014-06-23 17:58   ` Guenter Roeck
2014-06-23 18:00     ` Pantelis Antoniou
2014-06-24 13:55       ` Grant Likely
2014-06-24 13:55         ` Grant Likely
2014-06-24 13:55         ` Grant Likely
2014-06-24 14:12   ` Grant Likely
2014-06-24 14:23     ` Pantelis Antoniou
2014-06-22  9:40 ` [PATCH 3/6] of: platform: Fix and export of_platform_device_destroy Pantelis Antoniou
2014-06-24 14:23   ` Grant Likely
2014-06-24 15:13   ` Grant Likely
2014-06-22  9:40 ` [PATCH 4/6] OF: Export a number of __of_* methods Pantelis Antoniou
2014-06-24 19:27   ` Grant Likely
2014-06-24 19:38     ` Pantelis Antoniou
2014-06-24 20:19       ` Grant Likely
2014-06-22  9:40 ` [PATCH 5/6] OF: Utility helper functions for dynamic nodes Pantelis Antoniou
2014-06-23 16:26   ` Alexander Sverdlin
2014-06-23 16:26     ` Alexander Sverdlin
2014-06-23 16:26     ` Alexander Sverdlin
2014-06-23 16:57     ` Pantelis Antoniou
2014-06-23 18:33       ` Ioan Nicu
2014-06-23 19:13         ` Pantelis Antoniou
2014-06-23 19:48           ` Guenter Roeck
2014-06-23 19:48             ` Guenter Roeck
2014-06-23 19:48             ` Guenter Roeck
2014-06-23 20:39             ` Ioan Nicu
2014-06-24  9:08             ` Pantelis Antoniou
2014-06-24 13:46               ` Rob Herring
2014-06-24 13:53                 ` Alexander Sverdlin
2014-06-24 14:49                   ` Rob Herring
2014-06-24 15:43                     ` Alexander Sverdlin
2014-06-24 15:59                       ` Pantelis Antoniou
2014-06-24 18:23                         ` Ioan Nicu
2014-06-24 18:31                           ` Ioan Nicu
2014-06-24 18:43                           ` Pantelis Antoniou
2014-06-24  8:12           ` Alexander Sverdlin
2014-06-24  8:12             ` Alexander Sverdlin
2014-06-24  8:12             ` Alexander Sverdlin
2014-06-24  8:19             ` Pantelis Antoniou
2014-06-24  8:38               ` Alexander Sverdlin
2014-06-24  8:54                 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2014-06-24  9:00                   ` Alexander Sverdlin
2014-06-24  9:09                     ` Pantelis Antoniou
2014-06-24  8:10         ` Alexander Sverdlin
2014-06-24  8:10           ` Alexander Sverdlin
2014-06-24  8:10           ` Alexander Sverdlin
2014-06-25  9:09           ` Grant Likely
2014-06-25  9:09             ` Grant Likely
2014-06-25  9:09             ` Grant Likely
2014-06-25 11:14   ` Grant Likely
2014-06-25 11:22     ` Pantelis Antoniou
2014-06-22  9:40 ` [PATCH 6/6] of: Introduce tree change __foo_post methods Pantelis Antoniou

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