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* [wireless-regdb] [PATCH] wireless-regdb: Update regulatory rules for Israel (IL) on 5GHz
@ 2022-02-20 13:46 roman.kunz
  2022-02-27 14:26 ` Seth Forshee
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: roman.kunz @ 2022-02-20 13:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Wireless Regdb

The Israeli Ministry of Communications has published an updated
revision of the normative radio band allocation table on 2021-03-29.
Notable change is the expansion of the range of allowed frequencies
in the 5GHz band.

Signed-off-by: Roman Kunzman <roman.kunz at tutanota.com>
---
db.txt | 9 +++++++++
1 file changed, 9 insertions(+)

diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt
index d45ec08..e107933 100644
--- a/db.txt
+++ b/db.txt
@@ -777,10 +777,19 @@ country IE: DFS-ETSI
# 60 GHz band channels 1-4 (ETSI EN 302 567)
(57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (40)

+# IL: Wireless Telegraph Regulations (type approval) (2021)
+# IL: published on 29 March 2021 in KOVETS HATAKANOT No. 9301.
+# IL: https://www.gov.il/he/departments/legalInfo/telegraph_law
+# IL: official document (pdf): https://rfa.justice.gov.il/SearchPredefinedApi/Documents/IdngyMn~ojdQSrkxuAqfZqiM8c1foi3TSZQhp7OMszo=
+# IL: also available as unofficial word doc: https://www.nevo.co.il/Handlers/LawOpenDoc.ashx?id=199708
country IL: DFS-ETSI
(2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
(5150 - 5250 @ 80), (200 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW
(5250 - 5350 @ 80), (200 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, DFS, AUTO-BW
+	# Table B List of conditions, row 63, indoor short range device without TPC (ETSI EN 301 893)
+	(5470 - 5725 @ 80), (500 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, DFS, AUTO-BW, wmmrule=ETSI
+	# Table B List of conditions, row 68, wireless device using 802.11a/n/ac protocol
+	(5725 - 5875 @ 80), (200 mW), AUTO-BW

country IN:
(2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
--
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* Re: [wireless-regdb] [PATCH] wireless-regdb: Update regulatory rules for Israel (IL) on 5GHz
  2022-02-20 13:46 [wireless-regdb] [PATCH] wireless-regdb: Update regulatory rules for Israel (IL) on 5GHz roman.kunz
@ 2022-02-27 14:26 ` Seth Forshee
  2022-02-28 17:00   ` roman.kunz
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Seth Forshee @ 2022-02-27 14:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: roman.kunz; +Cc: Wireless Regdb

On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 02:46:13PM +0100, roman.kunz@tutanota.com wrote:
> The Israeli Ministry of Communications has published an updated
> revision of the normative radio band allocation table on 2021-03-29.
> Notable change is the expansion of the range of allowed frequencies
> in the 5GHz band.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Roman Kunzman <roman.kunz at tutanota.com>

Thanks for the patch! Unfortunately there's a formatting problem, and it
won't apply as-is. Did you generate the patch with git-format-patch? If
so, it may be a problem with your mailer; in that case you could try
sending it as an attachment.

I also have a couple of comments/questions, below.

> ---
> db.txt | 9 +++++++++
> 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt
> index d45ec08..e107933 100644
> --- a/db.txt
> +++ b/db.txt
> @@ -777,10 +777,19 @@ country IE: DFS-ETSI
> # 60 GHz band channels 1-4 (ETSI EN 302 567)
> (57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (40)
> 
> +# IL: Wireless Telegraph Regulations (type approval) (2021)
> +# IL: published on 29 March 2021 in KOVETS HATAKANOT No. 9301.
> +# IL: https://www.gov.il/he/departments/legalInfo/telegraph_law
> +# IL: official document (pdf): https://rfa.justice.gov.il/SearchPredefinedApi/Documents/IdngyMn~ojdQSrkxuAqfZqiM8c1foi3TSZQhp7OMszo=
> +# IL: also available as unofficial word doc: https://www.nevo.co.il/Handlers/LawOpenDoc.ashx?id=199708
> country IL: DFS-ETSI
> (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
> (5150 - 5250 @ 80), (200 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW
> (5250 - 5350 @ 80), (200 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, DFS, AUTO-BW
> +	# Table B List of conditions, row 63, indoor short range device without TPC (ETSI EN 301 893)
> +	(5470 - 5725 @ 80), (500 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, DFS, AUTO-BW, wmmrule=ETSI
> +	# Table B List of conditions, row 68, wireless device using 802.11a/n/ac protocol
> +	(5725 - 5875 @ 80), (200 mW), AUTO-BW

Machine translation isn't working well for the document, so I'll have to
rely on your reading of it. Is there some limitation behind the 80 MHz
max bandwidth restriction for 5470-5725 MHz instead of 160 MHz? 

We don't have AUTO-BW elsewhere between these ranges, and I'm trying to
remember why. Having it would obviously allow use of channel 144, and I
can't recall a reason for not having it. In some cases we've fudged the
boundaries where 5470-5725 is the more restrictive rule, and GB has an
exception carved out for 5725-5730. Neither of these is true for ETSI EN
301 893 though. Maybe someone else will remember a reason for not having
AUTO-BW, but if not then it seems okay to me.

Thanks,
Seth

> 
> country IN:
> (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
> --
> 2.25.1
> 
>  
> 
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* Re: [wireless-regdb] [PATCH] wireless-regdb: Update regulatory rules for Israel (IL) on 5GHz
  2022-02-27 14:26 ` Seth Forshee
@ 2022-02-28 17:00   ` roman.kunz
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: roman.kunz @ 2022-02-28 17:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Seth Forshee; +Cc: Wireless Regdb

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It's a problem with my mailer, I'm re-sending as an attachment.
Answers inline:
Feb 27, 2022, 14:26 by seth@forshee.me:

> On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 02:46:13PM +0100, roman.kunz@tutanota.com wrote:
>
>> The Israeli Ministry of Communications has published an updated
>> revision of the normative radio band allocation table on 2021-03-29.
>> Notable change is the expansion of the range of allowed frequencies
>> in the 5GHz band.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Roman Kunzman <roman.kunz at tutanota.com>
>>
>
> Thanks for the patch! Unfortunately there's a formatting problem, and it
> won't apply as-is. Did you generate the patch with git-format-patch? If
> so, it may be a problem with your mailer; in that case you could try
> sending it as an attachment.
>
> I also have a couple of comments/questions, below.
>
>> ---
>> db.txt | 9 +++++++++
>> 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+)
>>
>> diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt
>> index d45ec08..e107933 100644
>> --- a/db.txt
>> +++ b/db.txt
>> @@ -777,10 +777,19 @@ country IE: DFS-ETSI
>> # 60 GHz band channels 1-4 (ETSI EN 302 567)
>> (57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (40)
>>
>> +# IL: Wireless Telegraph Regulations (type approval) (2021)
>> +# IL: published on 29 March 2021 in KOVETS HATAKANOT No. 9301.
>> +# IL: https://www.gov.il/he/departments/legalInfo/telegraph_law
>> +# IL: official document (pdf): https://rfa.justice.gov.il/SearchPredefinedApi/Documents/IdngyMn~ojdQSrkxuAqfZqiM8c1foi3TSZQhp7OMszo=
>> +# IL: also available as unofficial word doc: https://www.nevo.co.il/Handlers/LawOpenDoc.ashx?id=199708
>> country IL: DFS-ETSI
>> (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
>> (5150 - 5250 @ 80), (200 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW
>> (5250 - 5350 @ 80), (200 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, DFS, AUTO-BW
>> +	# Table B List of conditions, row 63, indoor short range device without TPC (ETSI EN 301 893)
>> +	(5470 - 5725 @ 80), (500 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, DFS, AUTO-BW, wmmrule=ETSI
>> +	# Table B List of conditions, row 68, wireless device using 802.11a/n/ac protocol
>> +	(5725 - 5875 @ 80), (200 mW), AUTO-BW
>>
>
> Machine translation isn't working well for the document, so I'll have to
> rely on your reading of it. Is there some limitation behind the 80 MHz
> max bandwidth restriction for 5470-5725 MHz instead of 160 MHz? 
>
I couldn't find any limitation on bandwidth in the regulations. The power density limits are way above the actual density for 80/160 so are irrelevant. I used the current existing reg-db value of 80MHz out of an abundance of caution.


> We don't have AUTO-BW elsewhere between these ranges, and I'm trying to
> remember why. Having it would obviously allow use of channel 144, and I
> can't recall a reason for not having it. In some cases we've fudged the
> boundaries where 5470-5725 is the more restrictive rule, and GB has an
> exception carved out for 5725-5730. Neither of these is true for ETSI EN
> 301 893 though. Maybe someone else will remember a reason for not having
> AUTO-BW, but if not then it seems okay to me.
>
I don't know. It would be good to support channel 144 if possible.



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From 84ba49ba0ae2da981d06f439691d6c93964f8f45 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Roman Kunzman <roman.kunz@tutanota.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2022 13:34:03 +0000
Subject: [PATCH] wireless-regdb: Update regulatory rules for Israel (IL) on 5GHz

The Israeli Ministry of Communications has published an updated
revision of the normative radio band allocation table on 2021-03-29.
Notable change is the expansion of the range of allowed frequencies
in the 5GHz band.

Signed-off-by: Roman Kunzman <roman.kunz@tutanota.com>
---
 db.txt | 9 +++++++++
 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+)

diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt
index d45ec08..e107933 100644
--- a/db.txt
+++ b/db.txt
@@ -777,10 +777,19 @@ country IE: DFS-ETSI
 	# 60 GHz band channels 1-4 (ETSI EN 302 567)
 	(57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (40)
 
+# IL: Wireless Telegraph Regulations (type approval) (2021)
+# IL: published on 29 March 2021 in KOVETS HATAKANOT No. 9301.
+# IL: https://www.gov.il/he/departments/legalInfo/telegraph_law
+# IL: official document (pdf): https://rfa.justice.gov.il/SearchPredefinedApi/Documents/IdngyMn~ojdQSrkxuAqfZqiM8c1foi3TSZQhp7OMszo=
+# IL: also available as unofficial word doc: https://www.nevo.co.il/Handlers/LawOpenDoc.ashx?id=199708
 country IL: DFS-ETSI
 	(2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
 	(5150 - 5250 @ 80), (200 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW
 	(5250 - 5350 @ 80), (200 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, DFS, AUTO-BW
+	# Table B List of conditions, row 63, indoor short range device without TPC (ETSI EN 301 893)
+	(5470 - 5725 @ 80), (500 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, DFS, AUTO-BW, wmmrule=ETSI
+	# Table B List of conditions, row 68, wireless device using 802.11a/n/ac protocol
+	(5725 - 5875 @ 80), (200 mW), AUTO-BW
 
 country IN:
 	(2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
-- 
2.25.1


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