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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
To: Christian Kujau <evil@g-house.de>
Cc: Matt Domsch <Matt_Domsch@dell.com>,
	Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@gmail.com>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Subject: Re: Oops in 2.6.10-rc1 (almost solved)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 16:49:59 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0411111645110.2301@ppc970.osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <41940384.1000409@g-house.de>



On Fri, 12 Nov 2004, Christian Kujau wrote:
> 
> nevermind then. as nobody else seem to be bothered by this i am happy with
> the workarund (CONFIG_EDD=n) and since the lkml-archives exist we could
> get back to it when it's bothering more people (n>1)

The problem with that approach is that very few people are willing to 
spend the time and effort to really try to figure out where the problem 
triggers for them. Thanks again for testing lots of kernels, and different 
configurations.

Basically, if it's a problem that only happens for a smallish percentage
of people, and an even smaller percentage of those is willing to dig down
and find it, it's not a problem we can afford to ignore. Ignoring it just
means that there will be "a few" error reports that we will either waste
time on, or (even worse) we'll dismiss as "known problems" and then
possibly miss _another_ bug.

This is why I take random unexplained (but pinpointed) problems so 
seriously. If it wasn't as apparently random, we could file it under 
"known problem" and decide to try to fix it later. As it is, it's filed 
under "known cause", but since we don't know _why_, it might cause totally 
different problems on another machine, and that just makes it too painful 
for words. 

So the changeset is reverted for now in the current -bk tree, and I'll 
make a -rc2 this weekend and hope that we can stabilize for 2.6.10.

		Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2004-11-12  0:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-10-28 13:12 Oops in 2.6.10-rc1 Christian
2004-10-28 13:29 ` [Alsa-devel] " Jaroslav Kysela
2004-10-28 14:09   ` Christian
2004-11-04 15:16     ` Christian Kujau
2004-11-05  2:35       ` Christian Kujau
2004-11-05 11:40         ` holborn
2004-11-07  1:24       ` Christian Kujau
2004-11-07  7:02         ` Linus Torvalds
2004-11-07 13:10           ` Christian Kujau
2004-11-07 16:02             ` Christian Kujau
2004-11-07 16:57               ` Linus Torvalds
2004-11-07 18:31                 ` Christian Kujau
2004-11-07 18:44                   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-11-07 23:45                   ` Christian Kujau
2004-11-07 23:45                     ` Christian Kujau
2004-11-08  1:16                     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-11-08  1:16                       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-11-08 13:01                       ` Christian Kujau
2004-11-08 13:01                         ` Christian Kujau
2004-11-08 18:13                         ` Linus Torvalds
2004-11-08 18:13                           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-11-08 20:59                           ` Christian Kujau
2004-11-08 20:59                             ` Christian Kujau
2004-11-08 23:49                             ` Christian Kujau
2004-11-09  1:05                               ` Linus Torvalds
2004-11-09  1:41                                 ` Christian Kujau
2004-11-09  1:31                               ` Christian Kujau
2004-11-09  7:40                                 ` Pekka Enberg
2004-11-09 12:33                                   ` Christian Kujau
2004-11-09 17:26                                     ` Oops in 2.6.10-rc1 (almost solved) Christian Kujau
2004-11-09 18:53                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-11-09 19:04                                         ` [PATCH] kobject: fix double kobject_put() in error path of kobject_add() Greg KH
2004-11-09 19:08                                           ` Greg KH
2004-11-09 20:19                                             ` Pekka Enberg
2004-11-09 21:21                                             ` Christian Kujau
2004-11-09 21:31                                             ` Christian Kujau
2004-11-09 19:09                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-11-09 22:06                                             ` Christian Kujau
2004-11-09 23:30                                         ` Oops in 2.6.10-rc1 (almost solved) Christian Kujau
2004-11-09 23:40                                           ` Matt Domsch
2004-11-10  0:21                                             ` Christian Kujau
2004-11-10  1:01                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2004-11-11 22:43                                             ` Matt Domsch
2004-11-11 22:53                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2004-11-11 22:55                                                 ` Matt Domsch
2004-11-12  0:27                                               ` Christian Kujau
2004-11-12  0:49                                                 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2004-11-12  1:27                                                   ` Christian Kujau
2004-11-10  0:12                           ` Oops in 2.6.10-rc1 Christian Kujau
2004-11-10  0:23                             ` Linus Torvalds
2004-11-08 18:44                         ` Pekka Enberg
2004-11-08 18:44                           ` Pekka Enberg
2004-11-08 19:00                           ` Greg KH
2004-11-08 19:00                             ` Greg KH
2004-11-08 19:18                             ` Pekka Enberg
2004-11-08 19:18                               ` Pekka Enberg
2004-11-08 19:30                               ` Pekka Enberg
2004-11-08 19:30                                 ` Pekka Enberg
2004-11-08 20:31                               ` Christian Kujau
2004-11-08 20:31                                 ` Christian Kujau
2004-11-07 13:05         ` Pekka Enberg
2004-11-07 13:43           ` Christian Kujau
2004-11-13  3:45 Oops in 2.6.10-rc1 (almost solved) Chuck Ebbert
2004-11-13 14:28 ` Matt Domsch
2004-11-13 18:55   ` Matt Domsch
2004-11-14  2:58   ` Matt Domsch
2004-11-14  4:43     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-11-14 11:45     ` Christian
2004-11-14 20:02     ` Christian Kujau
2004-11-14 21:55       ` Matt Domsch

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