From: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> To: Jari Ruusu <jariruusu@protonmail.com> Cc: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>, Jari Ruusu <jariruusu@users.sourceforge.net>, Scott Branden <scott.branden@broadcom.com>, Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, BCM Kernel Feedback <bcm-kernel-feedback-list@broadcom.com> Subject: Re: 5.10 LTS Kernel: 2 or 6 years? Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2021 18:44:04 +0100 [thread overview] Message-ID: <YC6nZH/4CkLLsxxB@kroah.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <dbLhDu5W6LMrWDRrgzNQJGLZPMWGkRtOcxFUbghT-Uuc8zmQObV5KjhYqVBo2U6k7r2rNVtVEaMjev_lyz8eNQGvksSTjVrHd8LaPrO_6Qs=@protonmail.com> On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 05:19:54PM +0000, Jari Ruusu wrote: > On Thursday, February 18, 2021 4:33 PM, Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu> wrote: > > Usually you pick an LTS kernel for a specific hardware. If it > > works that's great. But you cannot expect hardware to suddenly start to > > work in the middle of a stable kernel. Sometimes it happens (PCI IDs) but > > that's basically all and that's not their purpose. > > It was the other way around. Fine working in-tree driver got > broken by backported "fixes". I did mention bit-rot. It did? Please let us stable maintainers know about, we will always gladly revert problems patches. What commits caused the problem? > In-tree iwlwifi worked half-ok on early 4.9.y stable. If > connection somehow de-autheticated (out of radio range or > whatever) it crashed the kernel spectacularly. Eventually that was > fixed and in-tree iwlwifi worked fine on 4.9.y and 4.14.y stable > kernels. On second half of year 2020 (don't remember exactly when) > iwlwifi started causing erratic behavior when some random process > terminated, as if some exit processing left some resources > un-freed or something weird like that. Upgraded to 4.19.y kernels > in hope to fix the issue. Nope, same problems continued there as > well. Replacing in-tree iwlwifi with out-of-tree upstream Intel > version solved the problem for me. So something in the 4.9.y and 4.14.y stable kernels caused a regression, can you please do 'git bisect' to let us know what broke? And if 4.19.0 was always broken, why didn't you report that as well? How about 5.11, have you tried that? If not, please do so and report it to the developers, otherwise how can it ever get fixed? thanks, greg k-h
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From: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> To: Jari Ruusu <jariruusu@protonmail.com> Cc: Jari Ruusu <jariruusu@users.sourceforge.net>, Scott Branden <scott.branden@broadcom.com>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, BCM Kernel Feedback <bcm-kernel-feedback-list@broadcom.com>, Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>, Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org> Subject: Re: 5.10 LTS Kernel: 2 or 6 years? Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2021 18:44:04 +0100 [thread overview] Message-ID: <YC6nZH/4CkLLsxxB@kroah.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <dbLhDu5W6LMrWDRrgzNQJGLZPMWGkRtOcxFUbghT-Uuc8zmQObV5KjhYqVBo2U6k7r2rNVtVEaMjev_lyz8eNQGvksSTjVrHd8LaPrO_6Qs=@protonmail.com> On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 05:19:54PM +0000, Jari Ruusu wrote: > On Thursday, February 18, 2021 4:33 PM, Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu> wrote: > > Usually you pick an LTS kernel for a specific hardware. If it > > works that's great. But you cannot expect hardware to suddenly start to > > work in the middle of a stable kernel. Sometimes it happens (PCI IDs) but > > that's basically all and that's not their purpose. > > It was the other way around. Fine working in-tree driver got > broken by backported "fixes". I did mention bit-rot. It did? Please let us stable maintainers know about, we will always gladly revert problems patches. What commits caused the problem? > In-tree iwlwifi worked half-ok on early 4.9.y stable. If > connection somehow de-autheticated (out of radio range or > whatever) it crashed the kernel spectacularly. Eventually that was > fixed and in-tree iwlwifi worked fine on 4.9.y and 4.14.y stable > kernels. On second half of year 2020 (don't remember exactly when) > iwlwifi started causing erratic behavior when some random process > terminated, as if some exit processing left some resources > un-freed or something weird like that. Upgraded to 4.19.y kernels > in hope to fix the issue. Nope, same problems continued there as > well. Replacing in-tree iwlwifi with out-of-tree upstream Intel > version solved the problem for me. So something in the 4.9.y and 4.14.y stable kernels caused a regression, can you please do 'git bisect' to let us know what broke? And if 4.19.0 was always broken, why didn't you report that as well? How about 5.11, have you tried that? If not, please do so and report it to the developers, otherwise how can it ever get fixed? thanks, greg k-h _______________________________________________ linux-arm-kernel mailing list linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-arm-kernel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-02-18 19:12 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 133+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2021-01-25 19:55 5.10 LTS Kernel: 2 or 6 years? Scott Branden 2021-01-25 19:55 ` Scott Branden 2021-01-26 2:50 ` Adam Borowski 2021-01-26 2:50 ` Adam Borowski 2021-01-26 7:29 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman 2021-01-26 7:29 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman 2021-01-26 17:35 ` Florian Fainelli 2021-01-26 17:35 ` Florian Fainelli 2021-01-26 18:30 ` Scott Branden 2021-01-26 18:30 ` Scott Branden 2021-01-26 18:51 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman 2021-01-26 18:51 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman 2021-01-26 20:15 ` Willy Tarreau 2021-01-26 20:15 ` Willy Tarreau 2021-01-29 10:00 ` 10 years -- was " Pavel Machek 2021-02-17 9:40 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman 2021-02-17 9:40 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman 2021-02-17 19:48 ` Scott Branden 2021-02-17 19:48 ` Scott Branden 2021-02-18 7:43 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman 2021-02-18 7:43 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman 2021-02-18 11:31 ` Willy Tarreau 2021-02-18 11:31 ` Willy Tarreau 2021-02-18 14:15 ` Jari Ruusu 2021-02-18 14:15 ` Jari Ruusu 2021-02-18 14:29 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman 2021-02-18 14:29 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman 2021-02-18 20:55 ` Pavel Machek 2021-02-18 20:55 ` Pavel Machek 2021-02-18 22:43 ` Ondrej Zary 2021-02-18 22:43 ` Ondrej Zary 2021-02-19 8:00 ` Pavel Machek 2021-02-19 8:00 ` Pavel Machek 2021-02-19 8:30 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman 2021-02-19 8:30 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman 2021-02-18 14:33 ` Willy Tarreau 2021-02-18 14:33 ` Willy Tarreau 2021-02-18 17:19 ` Jari Ruusu 2021-02-18 17:19 ` Jari Ruusu 2021-02-18 17:22 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin 2021-02-18 17:22 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin 2021-02-18 17:44 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman [this message] 2021-02-18 17:44 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman 2021-02-19 7:10 ` Jari Ruusu 2021-02-19 7:10 ` Jari Ruusu 2021-02-19 8:22 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman 2021-02-19 8:22 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman 2021-02-19 10:31 ` Jari Ruusu 2021-02-19 10:31 ` Jari Ruusu 2021-02-19 10:37 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman 2021-02-19 10:37 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman 2021-02-19 10:57 ` Jari Ruusu 2021-02-19 10:57 ` Jari Ruusu 2021-02-19 11:16 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman 2021-02-19 11:16 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman 2021-02-19 15:23 ` Jari Ruusu 2021-02-19 15:23 ` Jari Ruusu 2021-02-20 13:29 ` Jari Ruusu 2021-02-20 13:29 ` Jari Ruusu 2021-02-20 16:05 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman 2021-02-20 16:05 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman 2021-02-20 17:06 ` Willy Tarreau 2021-02-20 17:06 ` Willy Tarreau 2021-02-21 11:38 ` Jari Ruusu 2021-02-21 11:38 ` Jari Ruusu 2021-02-19 16:50 ` Theodore Ts'o 2021-02-19 16:50 ` Theodore Ts'o 2021-02-18 17:16 ` Florian Fainelli 2021-02-18 17:16 ` Florian Fainelli 2021-02-18 12:51 ` Pavel Machek 2021-02-18 12:51 ` Pavel Machek 2021-02-18 16:51 ` Sasha Levin 2021-02-18 16:51 ` Sasha Levin 2021-02-18 17:21 ` Florian Fainelli 2021-02-18 17:21 ` Florian Fainelli 2021-02-18 17:53 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman 2021-02-18 17:53 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman 2021-02-18 17:57 ` Florian Fainelli 2021-02-18 17:57 ` Florian Fainelli 2021-02-18 18:20 ` Willy Tarreau 2021-02-18 18:20 ` Willy Tarreau 2021-02-18 18:36 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman 2021-02-18 18:36 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman 2021-02-18 20:16 ` Scott Branden 2021-02-18 20:16 ` Scott Branden 2021-02-18 21:00 ` Willy Tarreau 2021-02-18 21:00 ` Willy Tarreau 2021-02-18 22:38 ` Scott Branden 2021-02-18 22:38 ` Scott Branden 2021-02-18 21:39 ` Sasha Levin 2021-02-18 21:39 ` Sasha Levin 2021-02-18 22:00 ` Florian Fainelli 2021-02-18 22:00 ` Florian Fainelli 2021-02-18 22:26 ` Scott Branden 2021-02-18 22:26 ` Scott Branden 2021-02-19 8:25 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman 2021-02-19 8:25 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman 2021-02-19 15:05 ` Florian Fainelli 2021-02-19 15:05 ` Florian Fainelli 2021-02-19 15:53 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman 2021-02-19 15:53 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman 2021-02-19 17:44 ` Florian Fainelli 2021-02-19 17:44 ` Florian Fainelli 2021-02-22 14:17 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman 2021-02-22 14:17 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman 2021-02-18 17:42 ` Florian Fainelli 2021-02-18 17:42 ` Florian Fainelli 2021-02-18 18:13 ` Willy Tarreau 2021-02-18 18:13 ` Willy Tarreau 2021-02-18 10:04 ` Pavel Machek 2021-02-18 10:04 ` Pavel Machek 2021-01-29 9:49 ` Pavel Machek 2021-02-19 8:54 ` Hanjun Guo 2021-02-19 8:54 ` Hanjun Guo 2021-02-19 9:08 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman 2021-02-19 9:08 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman 2021-02-20 7:02 ` Hanjun Guo 2021-02-20 7:02 ` Hanjun Guo 2021-02-20 9:53 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman 2021-02-20 9:53 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman 2021-02-23 2:14 ` Hanjun Guo 2021-02-23 2:14 ` Hanjun Guo 2021-02-19 14:45 ` Nikolai Kondrashov 2021-02-19 14:45 ` Nikolai Kondrashov 2021-02-26 8:03 ` Hanjun Guo 2021-02-26 8:03 ` Hanjun Guo 2021-02-26 8:03 ` Hanjun Guo 2021-02-26 11:21 ` Nikolai Kondrashov 2021-02-26 11:21 ` Nikolai Kondrashov 2021-02-22 14:00 ` Nishanth Aravamudan 2021-02-22 14:00 ` Nishanth Aravamudan 2021-02-22 14:24 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman 2021-02-22 14:24 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
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