[LTP] [RFC PATCH 1/1] doc: Add supported kernel, libc versions

[LTP] [RFC PATCH 1/1] doc: Add supported kernel, libc versions

[Petr Vorel]

Signed-off-by: Petr Vorel <pvorel@suse.cz>
---
 doc/supported-kernel-libc-versions.txt | 57 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 1 file changed, 57 insertions(+)
 create mode 100644 doc/supported-kernel-libc-versions.txt

diff --git a/doc/supported-kernel-libc-versions.txt b/doc/supported-kernel-libc-versions.txt
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..b7ae01f11
--- /dev/null
+++ b/doc/supported-kernel-libc-versions.txt
@@ -0,0 +1,57 @@
+Supported kernel, libc, toolchain versions
+==========================================
+
+1. Build testing with Travis CI
+-------------------------------
+
+We test master branch in https://travis-ci.org/github/linux-test-project/ltp/builds[travis CI]
+to ensure LTP builds on various distributions including old, current and bleeding edge.
+We test both gcc and clang toolchains, various arch with cross-compilation.
+
+For list of tested distros see
+https://github.com/linux-test-project/ltp/blob/master/.travis.yml[.travis.yml].
+
+
+NOTE: Travis does only build testing, passing the CI means only that the
+      test compiles fine on variety of different distributions and releases.
+
+1.1 Oldest tested distributions
+~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
+
+[align="center",options="header"]
+|==============================================================
+| Distro                       | kernel | glibc | gcc   | clang
+| CentOS 7                     | 3.10   | 2.17  | 4.8.5 | -
+| Ubuntu 16.04 LTS xenial      | 4.4    | 2.23  | 5.3.1 | -
+| Debian 9 stretch (oldstable) | 4.9.30 | 2.24  | 6.3.0 | 3.8
+|==============================================================
+
+For older versions please use https://github.com/linux-test-project/ltp/releases[older LTP releases].
+
+1.2 Supported architectures
+~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
+
+[align="center",options="header"]
+|==================================
+| arch          | build
+| x86_64        | native
+| x86 emulation | native
+| aarch64       | cross compilation
+| ppc64le       | cross compilation
+| s390x         | cross compilation
+|==================================
+
+1.3 Supported libc
+~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
+
+Targeted libc is https://www.gnu.org/software/libc/[GNU C Library (glibc)].
+
+https://uclibc-ng.org/[uClibc-ng] is not being tested should work as well as it
+attempt to maintain a glibc compatible interface
+(older https://www.uclibc.org/[uClibc] might have problems).
+
+https://musl.libc.org/[musl] is not yet supported
+(see https://github.com/linux-test-project/ltp/blob/master/travis/alpine.sh[travis script]
+for list of files which need to be deleted in order to compile under musl).
+
+For bionic libc please (Android) use https://android.googlesource.com/platform/external/ltp/[AOSP fork].
-- 
2.31.1

[LTP] [RFC PATCH 1/1] doc: Add supported kernel, libc versions

[Cyril Hrubis]

Hi!
> +Supported kernel, libc, toolchain versions
> +==========================================
> +
> +1. Build testing with Travis CI
> +-------------------------------
> +
> +We test master branch in https://travis-ci.org/github/linux-test-project/ltp/builds[travis CI]
> +to ensure LTP builds on various distributions including old, current and bleeding edge.
> +We test both gcc and clang toolchains, various arch with cross-compilation.
> +
> +For list of tested distros see
> +https://github.com/linux-test-project/ltp/blob/master/.travis.yml[.travis.yml].
> +
> +
> +NOTE: Travis does only build testing, passing the CI means only that the
> +      test compiles fine on variety of different distributions and releases.
> +
> +1.1 Oldest tested distributions
> +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> +
> +[align="center",options="header"]
> +|==============================================================
> +| Distro                       | kernel | glibc | gcc   | clang
> +| CentOS 7                     | 3.10   | 2.17  | 4.8.5 | -
> +| Ubuntu 16.04 LTS xenial      | 4.4    | 2.23  | 5.3.1 | -
> +| Debian 9 stretch (oldstable) | 4.9.30 | 2.24  | 6.3.0 | 3.8
> +|==============================================================
> +
> +For older versions please use https://github.com/linux-test-project/ltp/releases[older LTP releases].

I'm not sure that this is a good suggestion.

I would write something as:

Older distributions are not officially supported, which means that it
may or may not work. It all depends on your luck. It should be possible
to compile latest LTP even on slightly older distributions than we
support with a few manual tweaks, e.g. disabling manually tests for
newly added syscalls manually, etc.

If latest LTP cannot be compiled even with some amount of workarounds,
you may result to older LTP releases, however these are _not_ supported
in any way. Also if you are trying to run LTP on more than 10 years old
distribution you may as well reconsider you life choices.

> +1.2 Supported architectures
        ^
	Tested?

We do support more than we test, right?

> +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> +
> +[align="center",options="header"]
> +|==================================
> +| arch          | build
> +| x86_64        | native
> +| x86 emulation | native
> +| aarch64       | cross compilation
> +| ppc64le       | cross compilation
> +| s390x         | cross compilation
> +|==================================
> +
> +1.3 Supported libc
> +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> +
> +Targeted libc is https://www.gnu.org/software/libc/[GNU C Library (glibc)].
> +
> +https://uclibc-ng.org/[uClibc-ng] is not being tested should work as well as it
> +attempt to maintain a glibc compatible interface
> +(older https://www.uclibc.org/[uClibc] might have problems).
> +
> +https://musl.libc.org/[musl] is not yet supported
                                          ^
					  fully?
> +(see https://github.com/linux-test-project/ltp/blob/master/travis/alpine.sh[travis script]
> +for list of files which need to be deleted in order to compile under musl).
> +
> +For bionic libc please (Android) use https://android.googlesource.com/platform/external/ltp/[AOSP fork].


Thanks a lot for starting this.

-- 
Cyril Hrubis
chrubis@suse.cz

[LTP] [Automated-testing] [RFC PATCH 1/1] doc: Add supported kernel, libc versions

[Petr Vorel]

Hi Cyril,

> Hi!
> > +Supported kernel, libc, toolchain versions
> > +==========================================
> > +
> > +1. Build testing with Travis CI
> > +-------------------------------
> > +
> > +We test master branch in https://travis-ci.org/github/linux-test-project/ltp/builds[travis CI]
> > +to ensure LTP builds on various distributions including old, current and bleeding edge.
> > +We test both gcc and clang toolchains, various arch with cross-compilation.
> > +
> > +For list of tested distros see
> > +https://github.com/linux-test-project/ltp/blob/master/.travis.yml[.travis.yml].
> > +
> > +
> > +NOTE: Travis does only build testing, passing the CI means only that the
> > +      test compiles fine on variety of different distributions and releases.
> > +
> > +1.1 Oldest tested distributions
> > +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > +
> > +[align="center",options="header"]
> > +|==============================================================
> > +| Distro                       | kernel | glibc | gcc   | clang
> > +| CentOS 7                     | 3.10   | 2.17  | 4.8.5 | -
> > +| Ubuntu 16.04 LTS xenial      | 4.4    | 2.23  | 5.3.1 | -
> > +| Debian 9 stretch (oldstable) | 4.9.30 | 2.24  | 6.3.0 | 3.8
> > +|==============================================================
> > +
> > +For older versions please use https://github.com/linux-test-project/ltp/releases[older LTP releases].

> I'm not sure that this is a good suggestion.

> I would write something as:

> Older distributions are not officially supported, which means that it
> may or may not work. It all depends on your luck. It should be possible
> to compile latest LTP even on slightly older distributions than we
> support with a few manual tweaks, e.g. disabling manually tests for
> newly added syscalls manually, etc.

> If latest LTP cannot be compiled even with some amount of workarounds,
> you may result to older LTP releases, however these are _not_ supported
> in any way. Also if you are trying to run LTP on more than 10 years old
> distribution you may as well reconsider you life choices.
+1 (although not sure about the latest sentence :))

> > +1.2 Supported architectures
>         ^
> 	Tested?
+1

> We do support more than we test, right?

> > +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > +
> > +[align="center",options="header"]
> > +|==================================
> > +| arch          | build
> > +| x86_64        | native
> > +| x86 emulation | native
> > +| aarch64       | cross compilation
> > +| ppc64le       | cross compilation
> > +| s390x         | cross compilation
> > +|==================================
> > +
> > +1.3 Supported libc
> > +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > +
> > +Targeted libc is https://www.gnu.org/software/libc/[GNU C Library (glibc)].
> > +
> > +https://uclibc-ng.org/[uClibc-ng] is not being tested should work as well as it
> > +attempt to maintain a glibc compatible interface
> > +(older https://www.uclibc.org/[uClibc] might have problems).
> > +
> > +https://musl.libc.org/[musl] is not yet supported
>                                           ^
> 					  fully?
+1

> > +(see https://github.com/linux-test-project/ltp/blob/master/travis/alpine.sh[travis script]
> > +for list of files which need to be deleted in order to compile under musl).
> > +
> > +For bionic libc please (Android) use https://android.googlesource.com/platform/external/ltp/[AOSP fork].


> Thanks a lot for starting this.

Thanks a lot for all the feedback, I'll take it all for v2.
It'd be nice to get it merged before the release.

Kind regards,
Petr

[LTP] [RFC PATCH 1/1] doc: Add supported kernel, libc versions

[xuyang2018.jy]

Hi Petr
> Signed-off-by: Petr Vorel<pvorel@suse.cz>
> ---
>   doc/supported-kernel-libc-versions.txt | 57 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>   1 file changed, 57 insertions(+)
>   create mode 100644 doc/supported-kernel-libc-versions.txt
>
> diff --git a/doc/supported-kernel-libc-versions.txt b/doc/supported-kernel-libc-versions.txt
> new file mode 100644
> index 000000000..b7ae01f11
> --- /dev/null
> +++ b/doc/supported-kernel-libc-versions.txt
> @@ -0,0 +1,57 @@
> +Supported kernel, libc, toolchain versions
> +==========================================
> +
> +1. Build testing with Travis CI
> +-------------------------------
> +
> +We test master branch in https://travis-ci.org/github/linux-test-project/ltp/builds[travis CI]
> +to ensure LTP builds on various distributions including old, current and bleeding edge.
> +We test both gcc and clang toolchains, various arch with cross-compilation.
> +
> +For list of tested distros see
> +https://github.com/linux-test-project/ltp/blob/master/.travis.yml[.travis.yml].
> +
> +
> +NOTE: Travis does only build testing, passing the CI means only that the
> +      test compiles fine on variety of different distributions and releases.
AFAIK, travis uses lastest distribution image to build. So it may exist 
the situation that it build pass on lastest centos7 and build failed on 
older centos7. I think we should add a note in here.
> +
> +1.1 Oldest tested distributions
> +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> +
> +[align="center",options="header"]
> +|==============================================================
> +| Distro                       | kernel | glibc | gcc   | clang
> +| CentOS 7                     | 3.10   | 2.17  | 4.8.5 | -
> +| Ubuntu 16.04 LTS xenial      | 4.4    | 2.23  | 5.3.1 | -
> +| Debian 9 stretch (oldstable) | 4.9.30 | 2.24  | 6.3.0 | 3.8
> +|==============================================================
> +
> +For older versions please use https://github.com/linux-test-project/ltp/releases[older LTP releases].
> +
> +1.2 Supported architectures
> +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> +
> +[align="center",options="header"]
> +|==================================
> +| arch          | build
> +| x86_64        | native
> +| x86 emulation | native
> +| aarch64       | cross compilation
> +| ppc64le       | cross compilation
> +| s390x         | cross compilation
> +|==================================
> +
> +1.3 Supported libc
> +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> +
> +Targeted libc is https://www.gnu.org/software/libc/[GNU C Library (glibc)].
> +
> +https://uclibc-ng.org/[uClibc-ng] is not being tested should work as well as it
> +attempt to maintain a glibc compatible interface
> +(older https://www.uclibc.org/[uClibc] might have problems).
> +
> +https://musl.libc.org/[musl] is not yet supported
> +(see https://github.com/linux-test-project/ltp/blob/master/travis/alpine.sh[travis script]
> +for list of files which need to be deleted in order to compile under musl).
> +
> +For bionic libc please (Android) use https://android.googlesource.com/platform/external/ltp/[AOSP fork].

[LTP] [RFC PATCH 1/1] doc: Add supported kernel, libc versions

[Jan Stancek]

On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 4:19 PM Cyril Hrubis <chrubis@suse.cz> wrote:
>
> Hi!
> > +Supported kernel, libc, toolchain versions
> > +==========================================
> > +
> > +1. Build testing with Travis CI
> > +-------------------------------
> > +
> > +We test master branch in https://travis-ci.org/github/linux-test-project/ltp/builds[travis CI]
> > +to ensure LTP builds on various distributions including old, current and bleeding edge.
> > +We test both gcc and clang toolchains, various arch with cross-compilation.
> > +
> > +For list of tested distros see
> > +https://github.com/linux-test-project/ltp/blob/master/.travis.yml[.travis.yml].
> > +
> > +
> > +NOTE: Travis does only build testing, passing the CI means only that the
> > +      test compiles fine on variety of different distributions and releases.
> > +
> > +1.1 Oldest tested distributions
> > +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > +
> > +[align="center",options="header"]
> > +|==============================================================
> > +| Distro                       | kernel | glibc | gcc   | clang
> > +| CentOS 7                     | 3.10   | 2.17  | 4.8.5 | -
> > +| Ubuntu 16.04 LTS xenial      | 4.4    | 2.23  | 5.3.1 | -
> > +| Debian 9 stretch (oldstable) | 4.9.30 | 2.24  | 6.3.0 | 3.8
> > +|==============================================================
> > +
> > +For older versions please use https://github.com/linux-test-project/ltp/releases[older LTP releases].
>
> I'm not sure that this is a good suggestion.
>
> I would write something as:
>
> Older distributions are not officially supported, which means that it
> may or may not work. It all depends on your luck. It should be possible
> to compile latest LTP even on slightly older distributions than we
> support with a few manual tweaks, e.g. disabling manually tests for
> newly added syscalls manually, etc.
>
> If latest LTP cannot be compiled even with some amount of workarounds,
> you may result to older LTP releases, however these are _not_ supported
> in any way. Also if you are trying to run LTP on more than 10 years old
> distribution you may as well reconsider you life choices.

Should we also give some hint about accepting patches/wokrarounds for
very old distros?
For example: "Trivial fixes/workarounds may be accepted, but users are
encouraged to move to newer distro."

>
> > +1.2 Supported architectures
>         ^
>         Tested?
>
> We do support more than we test, right?
>
> > +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > +
> > +[align="center",options="header"]
> > +|==================================
> > +| arch          | build
> > +| x86_64        | native
> > +| x86 emulation | native
> > +| aarch64       | cross compilation
> > +| ppc64le       | cross compilation
> > +| s390x         | cross compilation
> > +|==================================
> > +
> > +1.3 Supported libc
> > +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > +
> > +Targeted libc is https://www.gnu.org/software/libc/[GNU C Library (glibc)].
> > +
> > +https://uclibc-ng.org/[uClibc-ng] is not being tested should work as well as it
> > +attempt to maintain a glibc compatible interface
> > +(older https://www.uclibc.org/[uClibc] might have problems).
> > +
> > +https://musl.libc.org/[musl] is not yet supported
>                                           ^
>                                           fully?
> > +(see https://github.com/linux-test-project/ltp/blob/master/travis/alpine.sh[travis script]
> > +for list of files which need to be deleted in order to compile under musl).
> > +
> > +For bionic libc please (Android) use https://android.googlesource.com/platform/external/ltp/[AOSP fork].
>
>
> Thanks a lot for starting this.
>
> --
> Cyril Hrubis
> chrubis@suse.cz
>

[LTP] [RFC PATCH 1/1] doc: Add supported kernel, libc versions

[Petr Vorel]

Hi,

...
> > Older distributions are not officially supported, which means that it
> > may or may not work. It all depends on your luck. It should be possible
> > to compile latest LTP even on slightly older distributions than we
> > support with a few manual tweaks, e.g. disabling manually tests for
> > newly added syscalls manually, etc.

> > If latest LTP cannot be compiled even with some amount of workarounds,
> > you may result to older LTP releases, however these are _not_ supported
> > in any way. Also if you are trying to run LTP on more than 10 years old
> > distribution you may as well reconsider you life choices.

> Should we also give some hint about accepting patches/wokrarounds for
> very old distros?
> For example: "Trivial fixes/workarounds may be accepted, but users are
> encouraged to move to newer distro."

+1. I'd add it at the end of first paragraph. Or anyone feel free to express it
differently.

Kind regards,
Petr

[LTP] [RFC PATCH 1/1] doc: Add supported kernel, libc versions

[Petr Vorel]

Hi all,

> Hi Petr
> > Signed-off-by: Petr Vorel<pvorel@suse.cz>
> > ---
> >   doc/supported-kernel-libc-versions.txt | 57 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >   1 file changed, 57 insertions(+)
> >   create mode 100644 doc/supported-kernel-libc-versions.txt

> > diff --git a/doc/supported-kernel-libc-versions.txt b/doc/supported-kernel-libc-versions.txt
> > new file mode 100644
> > index 000000000..b7ae01f11
> > --- /dev/null
> > +++ b/doc/supported-kernel-libc-versions.txt
> > @@ -0,0 +1,57 @@
> > +Supported kernel, libc, toolchain versions
> > +==========================================
> > +
> > +1. Build testing with Travis CI
> > +-------------------------------
> > +
> > +We test master branch in https://travis-ci.org/github/linux-test-project/ltp/builds[travis CI]
> > +to ensure LTP builds on various distributions including old, current and bleeding edge.
> > +We test both gcc and clang toolchains, various arch with cross-compilation.
> > +
> > +For list of tested distros see
> > +https://github.com/linux-test-project/ltp/blob/master/.travis.yml[.travis.yml].
> > +
> > +
> > +NOTE: Travis does only build testing, passing the CI means only that the
> > +      test compiles fine on variety of different distributions and releases.
> AFAIK, travis uses lastest distribution image to build. So it may exist 
> the situation that it build pass on lastest centos7 and build failed on 
> older centos7. I think we should add a note in here.
+1

> > +
> > +1.1 Oldest tested distributions
> > +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > +
> > +[align="center",options="header"]
> > +|==============================================================
> > +| Distro                       | kernel | glibc | gcc   | clang
> > +| CentOS 7                     | 3.10   | 2.17  | 4.8.5 | -
> > +| Ubuntu 16.04 LTS xenial      | 4.4    | 2.23  | 5.3.1 | -
> > +| Debian 9 stretch (oldstable) | 4.9.30 | 2.24  | 6.3.0 | 3.8
> > +|==============================================================
This means we need to update time to time, at least for CentOS and Debian.

Debian moves to another release after current testing gets released.
We might want to use names (e.g. stretch) instead of "oldstable", "stable".
(I slightly prefer current approach, but not having a strong opinion)

> > +
> > +For older versions please use https://github.com/linux-test-project/ltp/releases[older LTP releases].
> > +
> > +1.2 Supported architectures
> > +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > +
> > +[align="center",options="header"]
> > +|==================================
> > +| arch          | build
> > +| x86_64        | native
> > +| x86 emulation | native
> > +| aarch64       | cross compilation
> > +| ppc64le       | cross compilation
> > +| s390x         | cross compilation
> > +|==================================
nit: not sure if having this as a table and supported libc (next section) just
paragraphs.

> > +
> > +1.3 Supported libc
> > +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > +
> > +Targeted libc is https://www.gnu.org/software/libc/[GNU C Library (glibc)].
> > +
> > +https://uclibc-ng.org/[uClibc-ng] is not being tested should work as well as it
> > +attempt to maintain a glibc compatible interface
> > +(older https://www.uclibc.org/[uClibc] might have problems).
> > +
> > +https://musl.libc.org/[musl] is not yet supported
> > +(see https://github.com/linux-test-project/ltp/blob/master/travis/alpine.sh[travis script]
> > +for list of files which need to be deleted in order to compile under musl).
> > +
> > +For bionic libc please (Android) use https://android.googlesource.com/platform/external/ltp/[AOSP fork].

Kind regards,
Petr

[LTP] [Automated-testing] [RFC PATCH 1/1] doc: Add supported kernel, libc versions

[Cyril Hrubis]

Hi!
> > I'm not sure that this is a good suggestion.
> 
> > I would write something as:
> 
> > Older distributions are not officially supported, which means that it
> > may or may not work. It all depends on your luck. It should be possible
> > to compile latest LTP even on slightly older distributions than we
> > support with a few manual tweaks, e.g. disabling manually tests for
> > newly added syscalls manually, etc.
> 
> > If latest LTP cannot be compiled even with some amount of workarounds,
> > you may result to older LTP releases, however these are _not_ supported
> > in any way. Also if you are trying to run LTP on more than 10 years old
> > distribution you may as well reconsider you life choices.
> +1 (although not sure about the latest sentence :))

Sure, we can be nicer and the last sentence could be:

Also if you are trying to run LTP on more than 10 years old distribution
you should really consider updating to a more recent one.

-- 
Cyril Hrubis
chrubis@suse.cz

[LTP] [Automated-testing] [RFC PATCH 1/1] doc: Add supported kernel, libc versions

[Li Wang]

Hi Petr,

LGTM(with fixing as the above suggestions). Thanks for starting this doc.

-- 
Regards,
Li Wang