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From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>
Cc: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
	"Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget" <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	"Git Mailing List" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Jonathan Nieder" <jrnieder@gmail.com>,
	"Sergey Organov" <sorganov@gmail.com>,
	"Neeraj Singh" <neerajsi@microsoft.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/7] tmp-objdir: new API for creating and removing primary object dirs
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2021 03:41:34 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YVVqLo6yNzPtXVv6@coredump.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABPp-BG_qigBoirMGR-Yk9Niyxt0UmYCEqojsYxbSEarLAmraA@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 09:22:32PM -0700, Elijah Newren wrote:

> > Not your fault & this pre-dates your patch, but FWIW I prefer our APIs
> > that don't have these "hidden struct" shenanigans (like say "struct
> > string_list") so a caller could just access this, we can just declare it
> > "const" appropriately.
> >
> > We're also all in-tree friends here, so having various accessors for no
> > reason other than to access struct members seems a bit too much.
> 
> That's a fair point, but just to play counterpoint for a minute...
> 
> FWIW, I dislike when our public facing APIs are polluted with all
> kinds of internal details.  merge-recursive being a case in point.
> When writing merge-ort, although I had a struct with public fields,
> that struct also contained an opaque struct (pointer) within it to
> hide several private fields.  (I would have liked to hide or remove a
> few more fields, but couldn't do so while the merge_recursive_options
> struct was shared between both merge-ort and merge-recursive.)
> 
> That said, I agree it can certainly be overdone, and tmp_objdir is
> pretty simple.  However, sometimes even in simple cases I like when
> folks make use of an opaque struct because it means folks put some
> effort into thinking more about the API that should be exposed.
> That's something we as a project have often overlooked in the past, as
> evidenced both by our one-shot usage mentality, and the existence of
> external projects like libgit2 attempting to correct this design
> shortcoming.  I'd like git to move more towards being structured as a
> reusable library as well as a useful command-line tool.

Right, it was definitely a conscious decision to keep the tmp-objdir API
as slim as possible, just because it's such a complicated and confusing
thing in the first place.

For something like a strbuf, giving direct access to the fields makes
sense. Exposing the details of how the struct works (like accessing
".buf" as a NUL-terminated string) are part of its usefulness.

But tmp_objdir represents a more abstract concept, and I wanted to
insulate callers from the details.

That said, the notion of "this is the path of the objdir" is not that
contentious, so I don't mind it too much (but it would be a jump to
exposing the details at all).

-Peff

  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-30  7:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-31  2:26 [PATCH 0/7] Add a new --remerge-diff capability to show & log Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-08-31  2:26 ` [PATCH 1/7] merge-ort: mark a few more conflict messages as omittable Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-08-31 21:06   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-01  0:03     ` Elijah Newren
2021-09-01 17:19       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-08-31  2:26 ` [PATCH 2/7] merge-ort: add ability to record conflict messages in a file Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-09-28 22:29   ` Jeff King
2021-09-29  6:25     ` Elijah Newren
2021-09-29 16:14       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-29 16:31         ` Elijah Newren
2021-09-30  7:58       ` Jeff King
2021-09-30  8:09         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-01  2:07         ` Elijah Newren
2021-10-01  5:28           ` Jeff King
2021-08-31  2:26 ` [PATCH 3/7] ll-merge: add API for capturing warnings in a strbuf instead of stderr Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-09-28 22:37   ` Jeff King
2021-09-28 23:49     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-29  4:03     ` Elijah Newren
2021-08-31  2:26 ` [PATCH 4/7] merge-ort: capture and print ll-merge warnings in our preferred fashion Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-09-28 22:39   ` Jeff King
2021-09-30 16:53   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-01  1:54     ` Elijah Newren
2021-10-01  7:23       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-08-31  2:26 ` [PATCH 5/7] tmp-objdir: new API for creating and removing primary object dirs Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-09-28  7:55   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-29  4:22     ` Elijah Newren
2021-09-30  7:41       ` Jeff King [this message]
2021-09-30 14:17       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-01  3:55         ` Elijah Newren
2021-09-28 23:17   ` Jeff King
2021-09-29  4:08     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-30  7:33       ` Jeff King
2021-09-30 13:16         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-30 21:00           ` Jeff King
2021-10-01  3:11           ` Elijah Newren
2021-10-01  7:30             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-01  8:03               ` Elijah Newren
2021-10-01  4:26         ` Elijah Newren
2021-10-01  5:27           ` Jeff King
2021-10-01  7:43             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-29  5:05     ` Elijah Newren
2021-09-30  7:26       ` Jeff King
2021-09-30  7:46         ` Jeff King
2021-09-30 20:06           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-10-01  3:59             ` Elijah Newren
2021-10-01 16:36               ` Junio C Hamano
2021-10-01  2:31           ` Elijah Newren
2021-10-01  5:21             ` Jeff King
2021-09-30 19:25         ` Neeraj Singh
2021-09-30 20:19           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-30 20:00         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-10-01  2:23         ` Elijah Newren
2021-08-31  2:26 ` [PATCH 6/7] show, log: provide a --remerge-diff capability Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-08-31  9:19   ` Sergey Organov
2021-09-28  8:01   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-29  4:00     ` Elijah Newren
2021-08-31  2:26 ` [PATCH 7/7] doc/diff-options: explain the new --remerge-diff option Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-08-31 11:05 ` [PATCH 0/7] Add a new --remerge-diff capability to show & log Bagas Sanjaya
2021-08-31 16:16   ` Elijah Newren
2021-08-31 20:03 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-08-31 20:23   ` Elijah Newren
2021-09-01 21:07 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-01 21:42   ` Elijah Newren
2021-09-01 21:55     ` Junio C Hamano

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