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From: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
To: Jeffle Xu <jefflexu@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: stefanha@redhat.com, miklos@szeredi.hub,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, virtio-fs@redhat.com,
	bo.liu@linux.alibaba.com, joseph.qi@linux.alibaba.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 0/7] fuse,virtiofs: support per-file DAX
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 11:21:09 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YW2Q5Y3u1TMlQEcW@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211011030052.98923-1-jefflexu@linux.alibaba.com>

On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 11:00:45AM +0800, Jeffle Xu wrote:
> changes since v5:
> Overall Design Changes:
> 1. virtiofsd now supports ioctl (only FS_IOC_SETFLAGS and
>   FS_IOC_FSSETXATTR), so that users inside guest could set/clear
>   persistent inode flags now. (FUSE kernel module has already supported
>   .ioctl(), virtiofsd need to suuport it.)

So no changes needed in fuse side (kernel) to support FS_IOC_FSSETXATTR?
Only virtiofsd needs to be changed. That sounds good.

Vivek

> 2. When FUSE client is mounted with '-o dax=inode', it indicates that
>   whether DAX shall be enabled or not for one specific file is
>   completely determined by FUSE server while FUSE client has no say on
>   it, and the decision whether DAX shall be enabled or not for specific
>   file is communicated through FUSE_ATTR_DAX flag of FUSE protocol. The
>   algorithm used by virtiofsd to determine whether DAX shall be enabled
>   or not is totally implementation specific, and thus the following
>   scenario may exist: users inside guest has already set related persistent
>   inode flag (i.e. FS_XFLAG_DAX) on corresponding file but FUSE server finnaly
>   decides not to enable DAX for this file. This slight semantic difference
>   is documented in patch 7. Also because of this, d_mark_dontcache() is
>   not called when FS_IOC_SETFLAGS/FS_IOC_FSSETXATTR ioctl is done inside
>   guest. It's delayed to be done if the FUSE_ATTR_DAX flag **indeed**
>   changes (as showed in patch 6).
> 3. patch 1: slightly modify logic of fuse_should_enable_dax()
> 4. patch 4: add back negotiation during FUSE_INIT. FUSE client shall
>   advertise to FUSE server that it's in per-file DAX mode, so that FUSE
>   server may omit querying persistent inode flags on host if FUSE client
>   is not mounted in per-file DAX mode, giving querying persistent inode
>   flags could be quite expensive.
> 
> 
> chanegs since v4:
> - drop support for setting/clearing FS_DAX inside guest
> - and thus drop the negotiation phase during FUSE_INIT
> 
> This patchset adds support of per-file DAX for virtiofs, which is
> inspired by Ira Weiny's work on ext4[1] and xfs[2].
> 
> Any comment is welcome.
> 
> [1] commit 9cb20f94afcd ("fs/ext4: Make DAX mount option a tri-state")
> [2] commit 02beb2686ff9 ("fs/xfs: Make DAX mount option a tri-state")
> 
> [Purpose]
> DAX may be limited in some specific situation. When the number of usable
> DAX windows is under watermark, the recalim routine will be triggered to
> reclaim some DAX windows. It may have a negative impact on the
> performance, since some processes may need to wait for DAX windows to be
> recalimed and reused then. To mitigate the performance degradation, the
> overall DAX window need to be expanded larger.
> 
> However, simply expanding the DAX window may not be a good deal in some
> scenario. To maintain one DAX window chunk (i.e., 2MB in size), 32KB
> (512 * 64 bytes) memory footprint will be consumed for page descriptors
> inside guest, which is greater than the memory footprint if it uses
> guest page cache when DAX disabled. Thus it'd better disable DAX for
> those files smaller than 32KB, to reduce the demand for DAX window and
> thus avoid the unworthy memory overhead.
> 
> Per-file DAX feature is introduced to address this issue, by offering a
> finer grained control for dax to users, trying to achieve a balance
> between performance and memory overhead.
> 
> 
> [Note]
> When the per-file DAX hint changes while the file is still *opened*, it
> is quite complicated and maybe fragile to dynamically change the DAX
> state, since dynamic switching needs to switch a_ops atomiclly. Ira
> Weiny had ever implemented a so called i_aops_sem lock [3] but
> eventually gave up since the complexity of the implementation
> [4][5][6][7].
> 
> Hence mark the inode and corresponding dentries as DONE_CACHE once the
> per-file DAX hint changes, so that the inode instance will be evicted
> and freed as soon as possible once the file is closed and the last
> reference to the inode is put. And then when the file gets reopened next
> time, the new instantiated inode will reflect the new DAX state.
> 
> In summary, when the per-file DAX hint changes for an *opened* file, the
> DAX state of the file won't be updated until this file is closed and
> reopened later. This is also how ext4/xfs per-file DAX works.
> 
> [3] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20200227052442.22524-7-ira.weiny@intel.com/
> [4] https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/xfs/cover/20200407182958.568475-1-ira.weiny@intel.com/
> [5] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20200305155144.GA5598@lst.de/
> [6] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20200401040021.GC56958@magnolia/
> [7] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20200403182904.GP80283@magnolia/
> 
> changes since v3:
> - bug fix (patch 6): s/"IS_DAX(inode) != newdax"/"!!IS_DAX(inode) !=
>   newdax"
> - during FUSE_INIT, advertise capability for per-file DAX only when
>   mounted as "-o dax=inode" (patch 4)
> 
> changes since v2:
> - modify fuse_show_options() accordingly to make it compatible with
>   new tri-state mount option (patch 2)
> - extract FUSE protocol changes into one separate patch (patch 3)
> - FUSE server/client need to negotiate if they support per-file DAX
>   (patch 4)
> - extract DONT_CACHE logic into patch 6/7
> 
> v5: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20210923092526.72341-1-jefflexu@linux.alibaba.com/
> v4: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-fsdevel/20210817022220.17574-1-jefflexu@linux.alibaba.com/
> v3: https://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-fsdevel/msg200852.html
> v2: https://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-fsdevel/msg199584.html
> v1: https://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-virtualization/msg51008.html
> 
> 
> Jeffle Xu (7):
>   fuse: add fuse_should_enable_dax() helper
>   fuse: make DAX mount option a tri-state
>   fuse: support per-file DAX in fuse protocol
>   fuse: negotiate per-file DAX in FUSE_INIT
>   fuse: enable per-file DAX
>   fuse: mark inode DONT_CACHE when per-file DAX hint changes
>   Documentation/filesystem/dax: record DAX on virtiofs
> 
>  Documentation/filesystems/dax.rst | 20 +++++++++++++++--
>  fs/fuse/dax.c                     | 36 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---
>  fs/fuse/file.c                    |  4 ++--
>  fs/fuse/fuse_i.h                  | 19 ++++++++++++----
>  fs/fuse/inode.c                   | 17 +++++++++++----
>  fs/fuse/virtio_fs.c               | 16 ++++++++++++--
>  include/uapi/linux/fuse.h         |  9 +++++++-
>  7 files changed, 103 insertions(+), 18 deletions(-)
> 
> -- 
> 2.27.0
> 


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
To: Jeffle Xu <jefflexu@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: virtio-fs@redhat.com, joseph.qi@linux.alibaba.com,
	miklos@szeredi.hub, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Virtio-fs] [PATCH v6 0/7] fuse,virtiofs: support per-file DAX
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 11:21:09 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YW2Q5Y3u1TMlQEcW@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211011030052.98923-1-jefflexu@linux.alibaba.com>

On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 11:00:45AM +0800, Jeffle Xu wrote:
> changes since v5:
> Overall Design Changes:
> 1. virtiofsd now supports ioctl (only FS_IOC_SETFLAGS and
>   FS_IOC_FSSETXATTR), so that users inside guest could set/clear
>   persistent inode flags now. (FUSE kernel module has already supported
>   .ioctl(), virtiofsd need to suuport it.)

So no changes needed in fuse side (kernel) to support FS_IOC_FSSETXATTR?
Only virtiofsd needs to be changed. That sounds good.

Vivek

> 2. When FUSE client is mounted with '-o dax=inode', it indicates that
>   whether DAX shall be enabled or not for one specific file is
>   completely determined by FUSE server while FUSE client has no say on
>   it, and the decision whether DAX shall be enabled or not for specific
>   file is communicated through FUSE_ATTR_DAX flag of FUSE protocol. The
>   algorithm used by virtiofsd to determine whether DAX shall be enabled
>   or not is totally implementation specific, and thus the following
>   scenario may exist: users inside guest has already set related persistent
>   inode flag (i.e. FS_XFLAG_DAX) on corresponding file but FUSE server finnaly
>   decides not to enable DAX for this file. This slight semantic difference
>   is documented in patch 7. Also because of this, d_mark_dontcache() is
>   not called when FS_IOC_SETFLAGS/FS_IOC_FSSETXATTR ioctl is done inside
>   guest. It's delayed to be done if the FUSE_ATTR_DAX flag **indeed**
>   changes (as showed in patch 6).
> 3. patch 1: slightly modify logic of fuse_should_enable_dax()
> 4. patch 4: add back negotiation during FUSE_INIT. FUSE client shall
>   advertise to FUSE server that it's in per-file DAX mode, so that FUSE
>   server may omit querying persistent inode flags on host if FUSE client
>   is not mounted in per-file DAX mode, giving querying persistent inode
>   flags could be quite expensive.
> 
> 
> chanegs since v4:
> - drop support for setting/clearing FS_DAX inside guest
> - and thus drop the negotiation phase during FUSE_INIT
> 
> This patchset adds support of per-file DAX for virtiofs, which is
> inspired by Ira Weiny's work on ext4[1] and xfs[2].
> 
> Any comment is welcome.
> 
> [1] commit 9cb20f94afcd ("fs/ext4: Make DAX mount option a tri-state")
> [2] commit 02beb2686ff9 ("fs/xfs: Make DAX mount option a tri-state")
> 
> [Purpose]
> DAX may be limited in some specific situation. When the number of usable
> DAX windows is under watermark, the recalim routine will be triggered to
> reclaim some DAX windows. It may have a negative impact on the
> performance, since some processes may need to wait for DAX windows to be
> recalimed and reused then. To mitigate the performance degradation, the
> overall DAX window need to be expanded larger.
> 
> However, simply expanding the DAX window may not be a good deal in some
> scenario. To maintain one DAX window chunk (i.e., 2MB in size), 32KB
> (512 * 64 bytes) memory footprint will be consumed for page descriptors
> inside guest, which is greater than the memory footprint if it uses
> guest page cache when DAX disabled. Thus it'd better disable DAX for
> those files smaller than 32KB, to reduce the demand for DAX window and
> thus avoid the unworthy memory overhead.
> 
> Per-file DAX feature is introduced to address this issue, by offering a
> finer grained control for dax to users, trying to achieve a balance
> between performance and memory overhead.
> 
> 
> [Note]
> When the per-file DAX hint changes while the file is still *opened*, it
> is quite complicated and maybe fragile to dynamically change the DAX
> state, since dynamic switching needs to switch a_ops atomiclly. Ira
> Weiny had ever implemented a so called i_aops_sem lock [3] but
> eventually gave up since the complexity of the implementation
> [4][5][6][7].
> 
> Hence mark the inode and corresponding dentries as DONE_CACHE once the
> per-file DAX hint changes, so that the inode instance will be evicted
> and freed as soon as possible once the file is closed and the last
> reference to the inode is put. And then when the file gets reopened next
> time, the new instantiated inode will reflect the new DAX state.
> 
> In summary, when the per-file DAX hint changes for an *opened* file, the
> DAX state of the file won't be updated until this file is closed and
> reopened later. This is also how ext4/xfs per-file DAX works.
> 
> [3] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20200227052442.22524-7-ira.weiny@intel.com/
> [4] https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/xfs/cover/20200407182958.568475-1-ira.weiny@intel.com/
> [5] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20200305155144.GA5598@lst.de/
> [6] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20200401040021.GC56958@magnolia/
> [7] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20200403182904.GP80283@magnolia/
> 
> changes since v3:
> - bug fix (patch 6): s/"IS_DAX(inode) != newdax"/"!!IS_DAX(inode) !=
>   newdax"
> - during FUSE_INIT, advertise capability for per-file DAX only when
>   mounted as "-o dax=inode" (patch 4)
> 
> changes since v2:
> - modify fuse_show_options() accordingly to make it compatible with
>   new tri-state mount option (patch 2)
> - extract FUSE protocol changes into one separate patch (patch 3)
> - FUSE server/client need to negotiate if they support per-file DAX
>   (patch 4)
> - extract DONT_CACHE logic into patch 6/7
> 
> v5: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20210923092526.72341-1-jefflexu@linux.alibaba.com/
> v4: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-fsdevel/20210817022220.17574-1-jefflexu@linux.alibaba.com/
> v3: https://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-fsdevel/msg200852.html
> v2: https://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-fsdevel/msg199584.html
> v1: https://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-virtualization/msg51008.html
> 
> 
> Jeffle Xu (7):
>   fuse: add fuse_should_enable_dax() helper
>   fuse: make DAX mount option a tri-state
>   fuse: support per-file DAX in fuse protocol
>   fuse: negotiate per-file DAX in FUSE_INIT
>   fuse: enable per-file DAX
>   fuse: mark inode DONT_CACHE when per-file DAX hint changes
>   Documentation/filesystem/dax: record DAX on virtiofs
> 
>  Documentation/filesystems/dax.rst | 20 +++++++++++++++--
>  fs/fuse/dax.c                     | 36 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---
>  fs/fuse/file.c                    |  4 ++--
>  fs/fuse/fuse_i.h                  | 19 ++++++++++++----
>  fs/fuse/inode.c                   | 17 +++++++++++----
>  fs/fuse/virtio_fs.c               | 16 ++++++++++++--
>  include/uapi/linux/fuse.h         |  9 +++++++-
>  7 files changed, 103 insertions(+), 18 deletions(-)
> 
> -- 
> 2.27.0
> 


  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-10-18 15:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-11  3:00 [PATCH v6 0/7] fuse,virtiofs: support per-file DAX Jeffle Xu
2021-10-11  3:00 ` [Virtio-fs] " Jeffle Xu
2021-10-11  3:00 ` [PATCH v6 1/7] fuse: add fuse_should_enable_dax() helper Jeffle Xu
2021-10-11  3:00   ` [Virtio-fs] " Jeffle Xu
2021-10-11  3:00 ` [PATCH v6 2/7] fuse: make DAX mount option a tri-state Jeffle Xu
2021-10-11  3:00   ` [Virtio-fs] " Jeffle Xu
2021-10-18 14:10   ` Vivek Goyal
2021-10-18 14:10     ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2021-10-20  2:52     ` JeffleXu
2021-10-20  2:52       ` [Virtio-fs] " JeffleXu
2021-10-20 14:48       ` Vivek Goyal
2021-10-20 14:48         ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2021-10-29  8:33         ` JeffleXu
2021-10-29  8:33           ` [Virtio-fs] " JeffleXu
2021-10-29 13:03           ` Vivek Goyal
2021-10-29 13:03             ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2021-11-01  8:21             ` JeffleXu
2021-11-01  8:21               ` [Virtio-fs] " JeffleXu
2021-10-20 15:17       ` Vivek Goyal
2021-10-20 15:17         ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2021-10-22  6:54         ` JeffleXu
2021-10-22  6:54           ` [Virtio-fs] " JeffleXu
2021-10-25 17:52           ` Ira Weiny
2021-10-25 17:52             ` [Virtio-fs] " Ira Weiny
2021-10-25 18:12             ` Vivek Goyal
2021-10-25 18:12               ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2021-10-25 19:02               ` Ira Weiny
2021-10-25 19:02                 ` [Virtio-fs] " Ira Weiny
2021-10-25 19:33                 ` Vivek Goyal
2021-10-25 19:33                   ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2021-10-25 20:41                   ` Ira Weiny
2021-10-25 20:41                     ` [Virtio-fs] " Ira Weiny
2021-10-26 13:45                     ` Vivek Goyal
2021-10-26 13:45                       ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2021-10-27  6:00                 ` JeffleXu
2021-10-27  6:00                   ` [Virtio-fs] " JeffleXu
2021-10-11  3:00 ` [PATCH v6 3/7] fuse: support per-file DAX in fuse protocol Jeffle Xu
2021-10-11  3:00   ` [Virtio-fs] " Jeffle Xu
2021-10-18 14:14   ` Vivek Goyal
2021-10-18 14:14     ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2021-10-18 14:20     ` Vivek Goyal
2021-10-18 14:20       ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2021-10-20  3:04       ` JeffleXu
2021-10-20  3:04         ` [Virtio-fs] " JeffleXu
2021-10-20 14:54         ` Vivek Goyal
2021-10-20 14:54           ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2021-10-11  3:00 ` [PATCH v6 4/7] fuse: negotiate per-file DAX in FUSE_INIT Jeffle Xu
2021-10-11  3:00   ` [Virtio-fs] " Jeffle Xu
2021-10-18 14:30   ` Vivek Goyal
2021-10-18 14:30     ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2021-10-20  3:10     ` JeffleXu
2021-10-20  3:10       ` [Virtio-fs] " JeffleXu
2021-10-20 15:44       ` Vivek Goyal
2021-10-20 15:44         ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2021-10-11  3:00 ` [PATCH v6 5/7] fuse: enable per-file DAX Jeffle Xu
2021-10-11  3:00   ` [Virtio-fs] " Jeffle Xu
2021-10-18 15:11   ` Vivek Goyal
2021-10-18 15:11     ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2021-10-11  3:00 ` [PATCH v6 6/7] fuse: mark inode DONT_CACHE when per-file DAX hint changes Jeffle Xu
2021-10-11  3:00   ` [Virtio-fs] " Jeffle Xu
2021-10-18 15:19   ` Vivek Goyal
2021-10-18 15:19     ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2021-10-27  5:05     ` JeffleXu
2021-10-27  5:05       ` [Virtio-fs] " JeffleXu
2021-10-11  3:00 ` [PATCH v6 7/7] Documentation/filesystem/dax: record DAX on virtiofs Jeffle Xu
2021-10-11  3:00   ` [Virtio-fs] " Jeffle Xu
2021-10-15  3:33 ` [PATCH v6 0/7] fuse,virtiofs: support per-file DAX JeffleXu
2021-10-15  3:33   ` [Virtio-fs] " JeffleXu
2021-10-18 15:21 ` Vivek Goyal [this message]
2021-10-18 15:21   ` Vivek Goyal
2021-10-20  5:22   ` JeffleXu
2021-10-20  5:22     ` [Virtio-fs] " JeffleXu
2021-10-20 16:06     ` Vivek Goyal
2021-10-20 16:06       ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal

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