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From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
Cc: Neeraj Singh <neerajsi@microsoft.com>,
	Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] refs: sync loose refs to disk before committing them
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2021 05:34:44 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YYT6tDyfBbwot2br@coredump.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <nycvar.QRO.7.76.6.2111051010070.56@tvgsbejvaqbjf.bet>

On Fri, Nov 05, 2021 at 10:12:25AM +0100, Johannes Schindelin wrote:

> > So this will definitely hurt at edge / pathological cases.
> 
> Ouch.
> 
> I wonder whether this could be handled similarly to the
> `core.fsyncObjectFiles=batch` mode that has been proposed in
> https://lore.kernel.org/git/pull.1076.v8.git.git.1633366667.gitgitgadget@gmail.com/

Yeah, that was along the lines I was thinking.

I hadn't really looked at the details of the batch-fsync there. The big
trick seems to be doing a pagecache writeback for each file, and then
stimulating an actual disk write (by fsyncing a tempfile) after the
batch is done.

That would be pretty easy to do for the refs (it's git_fsync() while
closing each file where Patrick is calling fsync(), followed by a single
do_batch_fsync() after everything is closed but before we rename).

> Essentially, we would have to find a better layer to do this, where we
> can synchronize after a potentially quite large number of ref updates has
> happened. That would definitely be a different layer than the file-based
> refs backend, of course, and would probably apply in a different way to
> other refs backends.

We do have the concept of a ref_transaction, so that would be the
natural place for it. Not every caller uses it, though, because it
implies atomicity of the transaction (so some may do a sequence of N
independent transactions, because they don't want failure of one to
impact others). I think that could be changed, if the ref_transaction
learned about non-atomicity, but it may take some surgery.

I expect that reftables would similarly benefit; it is probably much
more efficient to write a table slice with N entries than it is to write
N slices, even before accounting for fsync(). And once doing that, then
the fsync() part becomes trivial.

-Peff

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-11-05  9:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-04 12:38 [PATCH] refs: sync loose refs to disk before committing them Patrick Steinhardt
2021-11-04 13:14 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-04 14:51   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2021-11-04 21:24   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-04 22:36     ` Neeraj Singh
2021-11-05  1:40       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-05  6:36         ` Jeff King
2021-11-05  8:35       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-05  9:04         ` Jeff King
2021-11-05  7:07 ` Jeff King
2021-11-05  7:17   ` Jeff King
2021-11-05  9:12     ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-11-05  9:22       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2021-11-05  9:34       ` Jeff King [this message]
2021-11-09 11:25         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2021-11-10  8:36           ` Jeff King
2021-11-10  9:16             ` Patrick Steinhardt
2021-11-10 11:40 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] " Patrick Steinhardt
2021-11-10 11:40   ` [PATCH v2 1/3] wrapper: handle EINTR in `git_fsync()` Patrick Steinhardt
2021-11-10 14:33     ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-11-10 14:39     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-10 11:40   ` [PATCH v2 2/3] wrapper: provide function to sync directories Patrick Steinhardt
2021-11-10 14:40     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-10 11:41   ` [PATCH v2 3/3] refs: add configuration to enable flushing of refs Patrick Steinhardt
2021-11-10 14:49     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-10 19:15       ` Neeraj Singh
2021-11-10 20:23         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-11  0:03           ` Neeraj Singh
2021-11-11 12:14           ` Patrick Steinhardt
2021-11-11 12:06       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2021-11-11  0:18     ` Neeraj Singh
2021-11-10 14:44   ` [PATCH v2 0/3] refs: sync loose refs to disk before committing them Johannes Schindelin
2021-11-10 20:45   ` Jeff King
2021-11-11 11:47     ` Patrick Steinhardt

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