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From: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
Cc: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>,
	dm-devel@redhat.com, linux-block@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] blk-mq/dm-rq: support BLK_MQ_F_BLOCKING for dm-rq
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 11:15:09 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yd2tDWuP+aT3Hxbj@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Yd1BFpYTBlQSPReW@infradead.org>

On Tue, Jan 11 2022 at  3:34P -0500,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 04:30:08PM -0500, Mike Snitzer wrote:
> > Yeah, people use request-based for IO scheduling and more capable path
> > selectors. Imposing bio-based would be a pretty jarring workaround for 
> > BLK_MQ_F_BLOCKING. request-based DM should properly support it.
> 
> Given that nvme-tcp is the only blocking driver that has multipath
> driver that driver explicitly does not intend to support dm-multipath
> I'm absolutely against adding block layer cruft for this particular
> use case.

this diffstat amounts to what you call "cruft":

 block/blk-core.c       |  2 +-
 block/blk-mq.c         |  6 +++---
 block/blk-mq.h         |  2 +-
 block/blk-sysfs.c      |  2 +-
 block/genhd.c          |  5 +++--
 drivers/md/dm-rq.c     |  5 ++++-
 drivers/md/dm-rq.h     |  3 ++-
 drivers/md/dm-table.c  | 14 ++++++++++++++
 drivers/md/dm.c        |  5 +++--
 drivers/md/dm.h        |  1 +
 include/linux/blkdev.h |  5 +++--
 include/linux/genhd.h  | 12 ++++++++----
 12 files changed, 44 insertions(+), 18 deletions(-)

> SCSI even has this:
> 
> 	        /*
> 		 * SCSI never enables blk-mq's BLK_MQ_F_BLOCKING flag so
> 		 * calling synchronize_rcu() once is enough.
> 		 */
> 		WARN_ON_ONCE(shost->tag_set.flags & BLK_MQ_F_BLOCKING);
> 

Round and round we go.. Pretty tired of this.

You are perfectly fine with incrementally compromising request-based
DM's ability to evolve as block core does.

Seriously, this patchset shouldn't warrant bickering:
https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/dm-devel/list/?series=598823

Jens, this incremental weakening of what it is that DM is allowed to
do is not something I can continue to work with (nor should Ming's or
others' contributions be rejected for such reasons).

This tribal war needs to stop.

Mike


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From: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
Cc: linux-block@vger.kernel.org, dm-devel@redhat.com,
	Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [dm-devel] [PATCH 0/3] blk-mq/dm-rq: support BLK_MQ_F_BLOCKING for dm-rq
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 11:15:09 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yd2tDWuP+aT3Hxbj@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Yd1BFpYTBlQSPReW@infradead.org>

On Tue, Jan 11 2022 at  3:34P -0500,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 04:30:08PM -0500, Mike Snitzer wrote:
> > Yeah, people use request-based for IO scheduling and more capable path
> > selectors. Imposing bio-based would be a pretty jarring workaround for 
> > BLK_MQ_F_BLOCKING. request-based DM should properly support it.
> 
> Given that nvme-tcp is the only blocking driver that has multipath
> driver that driver explicitly does not intend to support dm-multipath
> I'm absolutely against adding block layer cruft for this particular
> use case.

this diffstat amounts to what you call "cruft":

 block/blk-core.c       |  2 +-
 block/blk-mq.c         |  6 +++---
 block/blk-mq.h         |  2 +-
 block/blk-sysfs.c      |  2 +-
 block/genhd.c          |  5 +++--
 drivers/md/dm-rq.c     |  5 ++++-
 drivers/md/dm-rq.h     |  3 ++-
 drivers/md/dm-table.c  | 14 ++++++++++++++
 drivers/md/dm.c        |  5 +++--
 drivers/md/dm.h        |  1 +
 include/linux/blkdev.h |  5 +++--
 include/linux/genhd.h  | 12 ++++++++----
 12 files changed, 44 insertions(+), 18 deletions(-)

> SCSI even has this:
> 
> 	        /*
> 		 * SCSI never enables blk-mq's BLK_MQ_F_BLOCKING flag so
> 		 * calling synchronize_rcu() once is enough.
> 		 */
> 		WARN_ON_ONCE(shost->tag_set.flags & BLK_MQ_F_BLOCKING);
> 

Round and round we go.. Pretty tired of this.

You are perfectly fine with incrementally compromising request-based
DM's ability to evolve as block core does.

Seriously, this patchset shouldn't warrant bickering:
https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/dm-devel/list/?series=598823

Jens, this incremental weakening of what it is that DM is allowed to
do is not something I can continue to work with (nor should Ming's or
others' contributions be rejected for such reasons).

This tribal war needs to stop.

Mike

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-11 16:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-21 14:14 [PATCH 0/3] blk-mq/dm-rq: support BLK_MQ_F_BLOCKING for dm-rq Ming Lei
2021-12-21 14:14 ` [dm-devel] " Ming Lei
2021-12-21 14:14 ` [PATCH 1/3] block: split having srcu from queue blocking Ming Lei
2021-12-21 14:14   ` [dm-devel] " Ming Lei
2022-01-11 18:13   ` Jeff Moyer
2022-01-11 18:13     ` Jeff Moyer
2021-12-21 14:14 ` [PATCH 2/3] block: add blk_alloc_disk_srcu Ming Lei
2021-12-21 14:14   ` [dm-devel] " Ming Lei
2022-01-11 18:13   ` Jeff Moyer
2022-01-11 18:13     ` Jeff Moyer
2021-12-21 14:14 ` [PATCH 3/3] dm: mark dm queue as blocking if any underlying is blocking Ming Lei
2021-12-21 14:14   ` [dm-devel] " Ming Lei
2022-01-06 15:40   ` Mike Snitzer
2022-01-06 15:40     ` [dm-devel] " Mike Snitzer
2022-01-06 15:51     ` Ming Lei
2022-01-06 15:51       ` [dm-devel] " Ming Lei
2022-01-10 19:23       ` Mike Snitzer
2022-01-10 19:23         ` [dm-devel] " Mike Snitzer
2022-01-11 18:14   ` Jeff Moyer
2022-01-11 18:14     ` Jeff Moyer
2021-12-21 16:21 ` [PATCH 0/3] blk-mq/dm-rq: support BLK_MQ_F_BLOCKING for dm-rq Christoph Hellwig
2021-12-21 16:21   ` [dm-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2021-12-23  4:16   ` Ming Lei
2021-12-23  4:16     ` [dm-devel] " Ming Lei
2021-12-28 21:30     ` Mike Snitzer
2021-12-28 21:30       ` [dm-devel] " Mike Snitzer
2022-01-10 19:26       ` Mike Snitzer
2022-01-10 19:26         ` [dm-devel] " Mike Snitzer
2022-01-11  8:34       ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-11  8:34         ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-11 16:15         ` Mike Snitzer [this message]
2022-01-11 16:15           ` Mike Snitzer
2022-01-17  8:08           ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-17  8:08             ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-11 18:23         ` Jeff Moyer
2022-01-11 18:23           ` Jeff Moyer
2022-01-17  8:10           ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-17  8:10             ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-19 21:03             ` Mike Snitzer
2022-01-19 21:03               ` [dm-devel] " Mike Snitzer

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