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From: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
To: "Martin Povišer" <povik@cutebit.org>
Cc: "Martin Povišer" <povik+lin@cutebit.org>,
	"Liam Girdwood" <lgirdwood@gmail.com>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Jaroslav Kysela" <perex@perex.cz>,
	"Takashi Iwai" <tiwai@suse.com>,
	alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Mark Kettenis" <kettenis@openbsd.org>,
	"Hector Martin" <marcan@marcan.st>,
	"Sven Peter" <sven@svenpeter.dev>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/5] HACK: ASoC: Tolerate N-cpus-to-M-codecs links
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2022 13:55:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YmaaPa8A03rWV7HE@sirena.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9F8BCBA8-5EE3-4F87-9518-91CB7AB4E077@cutebit.org>

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On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 02:34:33PM +0200, Martin Povišer wrote:
> > On 25. 4. 2022, at 14:25, Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org> wrote:

> > If you register two separate DAIs (well, links) with the API without
> > doing anything else the API will just expose them to userspace as two
> > separate things with no indication that they're related.

> Sure, but what I am addressing here is a single DAI link with multiple
> CPU DAIs, invoked in DT like this:

> 	dai-link@0 {
> 		link-name = "Speakers";
> 		mclk-fs = <256>;
> 
> 		cpu {
> 			sound-dai = <&mca 0>, <&mca 1>;
> 		};
> 		codec {
> 			sound-dai = <&speaker_left_woof1>,
> 				<&speaker_right_woof1>,
> 				<&speaker_left_tweet>,
> 				<&speaker_right_tweet>,
> 				<&speaker_left_woof2>,
> 				<&speaker_right_woof2>;
> 		};
> 	};

You could parse this into two separate links for the benefit of the
framewokr if you're using a custom machine driver (which I suspect you
probably have to).

> >> What about this interim solution: In case of N-to-M links we put in
> >> the most restrictive condition for checking capture/playback stream
> >> validity: we check all of the CPU DAIs. Whatever ends up being the
> >> proper solution later can only be less restrictive than this.

> > That's not the issue here?

> Well to me it looks like it is. Because if I invoke the DAI link like
> I quoted above, and the platform driver supports it, the playback/capture
> stream validity check is the only place it breaks down. Notwithstanding
> this may be the wrong API as you wrote.

I am surprised that doesn't otherwise explode TBH - at the very least
I'd expect it to show two PCMs to userspace which if I'm understanding
your description correctly isn't really what's going on.

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From: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
To: "Martin Povišer" <povik@cutebit.org>
Cc: devicetree@vger.kernel.org, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org,
	"Sven Peter" <sven@svenpeter.dev>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Hector Martin" <marcan@marcan.st>,
	"Takashi Iwai" <tiwai@suse.com>,
	"Liam Girdwood" <lgirdwood@gmail.com>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Mark Kettenis" <kettenis@openbsd.org>,
	"Martin Povišer" <povik+lin@cutebit.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzk+dt@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/5] HACK: ASoC: Tolerate N-cpus-to-M-codecs links
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2022 13:55:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YmaaPa8A03rWV7HE@sirena.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9F8BCBA8-5EE3-4F87-9518-91CB7AB4E077@cutebit.org>

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On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 02:34:33PM +0200, Martin Povišer wrote:
> > On 25. 4. 2022, at 14:25, Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org> wrote:

> > If you register two separate DAIs (well, links) with the API without
> > doing anything else the API will just expose them to userspace as two
> > separate things with no indication that they're related.

> Sure, but what I am addressing here is a single DAI link with multiple
> CPU DAIs, invoked in DT like this:

> 	dai-link@0 {
> 		link-name = "Speakers";
> 		mclk-fs = <256>;
> 
> 		cpu {
> 			sound-dai = <&mca 0>, <&mca 1>;
> 		};
> 		codec {
> 			sound-dai = <&speaker_left_woof1>,
> 				<&speaker_right_woof1>,
> 				<&speaker_left_tweet>,
> 				<&speaker_right_tweet>,
> 				<&speaker_left_woof2>,
> 				<&speaker_right_woof2>;
> 		};
> 	};

You could parse this into two separate links for the benefit of the
framewokr if you're using a custom machine driver (which I suspect you
probably have to).

> >> What about this interim solution: In case of N-to-M links we put in
> >> the most restrictive condition for checking capture/playback stream
> >> validity: we check all of the CPU DAIs. Whatever ends up being the
> >> proper solution later can only be less restrictive than this.

> > That's not the issue here?

> Well to me it looks like it is. Because if I invoke the DAI link like
> I quoted above, and the platform driver supports it, the playback/capture
> stream validity check is the only place it breaks down. Notwithstanding
> this may be the wrong API as you wrote.

I am surprised that doesn't otherwise explode TBH - at the very least
I'd expect it to show two PCMs to userspace which if I'm understanding
your description correctly isn't really what's going on.

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-25 12:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-31  0:04 [RFC PATCH 0/5] Apple Macs machine-level ASoC driver Martin Povišer
2022-03-31  0:04 ` Martin Povišer
2022-03-31  0:04 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] dt-bindings: sound: Add Apple Macs sound system Martin Povišer
2022-03-31  0:04   ` Martin Povišer
2022-03-31  6:43   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-03-31  6:57     ` Martin Povišer
2022-03-31  8:17       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-03-31  8:23         ` Martin Povišer
2022-03-31  8:26           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-03-31  0:04 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] HACK: ASoC: Add card->filter_controls hook Martin Povišer
2022-03-31  0:04   ` Martin Povišer
2022-03-31 11:34   ` Mark Brown
2022-03-31 11:34     ` Mark Brown
2022-03-31  0:04 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] HACK: ASoC: Tolerate N-cpus-to-M-codecs links Martin Povišer
2022-03-31  0:04   ` Martin Povišer
2022-04-04 12:28   ` Mark Brown
2022-04-04 12:28     ` Mark Brown
2022-04-22 14:06     ` Martin Povišer
2022-04-22 14:06       ` Martin Povišer
2022-04-25 12:25       ` Mark Brown
2022-04-25 12:25         ` Mark Brown
2022-04-25 12:34         ` Martin Povišer
2022-04-25 12:34           ` Martin Povišer
2022-04-25 12:55           ` Mark Brown [this message]
2022-04-25 12:55             ` Mark Brown
2022-04-25 13:11             ` Martin Povišer
2022-04-25 13:11               ` Martin Povišer
2022-04-25 13:46               ` Mark Brown
2022-04-25 13:46                 ` Mark Brown
2022-04-25 13:55                 ` Martin Povišer
2022-04-25 13:55                   ` Martin Povišer
2022-03-31  0:04 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] ASoC: Introduce snd_soc_of_get_dai_link_cpus Martin Povišer
2022-03-31  0:04   ` Martin Povišer
2022-03-31  0:04 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] ASoC: Add macaudio machine driver Martin Povišer
2022-03-31  0:04   ` Martin Povišer
2022-03-31 11:59   ` Mark Brown
2022-03-31 11:59     ` Mark Brown
2022-03-31 12:08     ` Martin Povišer
2022-03-31 12:16       ` Martin Povišer
2022-03-31 12:56       ` Mark Brown
2022-03-31 12:56         ` Mark Brown
2022-03-31 12:34 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] Apple Macs machine-level ASoC driver Mark Brown
2022-03-31 12:34   ` Mark Brown
2022-03-31 13:28   ` Martin Povišer
2022-03-31 14:18     ` Mark Brown
2022-03-31 14:18       ` Mark Brown
2022-03-31 15:04       ` Martin Povišer
2022-03-31 15:36         ` Mark Brown
2022-03-31 15:36           ` Mark Brown
2022-04-22 10:43           ` Martin Povišer
2022-04-22 10:43             ` Martin Povišer
2022-04-22 11:19             ` Mark Brown
2022-04-22 11:19               ` Mark Brown
2022-04-22 11:28               ` Martin Povišer
2022-04-22 11:28                 ` Martin Povišer
2022-04-22 11:33                 ` Mark Brown
2022-04-22 11:33                   ` Mark Brown
2022-04-22 11:44                   ` Martin Povišer
2022-04-22 11:44                     ` Martin Povišer
2022-04-22 12:22                     ` Mark Brown
2022-04-22 12:22                       ` Mark Brown
2022-04-22 12:36                       ` Martin Povišer
2022-04-22 12:36                         ` Martin Povišer
2022-04-22 12:44                         ` Mark Brown
2022-04-22 12:44                           ` Mark Brown
2022-04-22 12:53                           ` Martin Povišer
2022-04-22 12:53                             ` Martin Povišer
2022-04-22 13:06                             ` Mark Brown
2022-04-22 13:06                               ` Mark Brown
2022-04-22 13:59                               ` Martin Povišer
2022-04-22 13:59                                 ` Martin Povišer
2022-03-31 13:28   ` Hector Martin
2022-03-31 13:28     ` Hector Martin
2022-03-31 14:33     ` Mark Brown
2022-03-31 14:33       ` Mark Brown
2022-04-05  9:31 ` (subset) " Mark Brown
2022-04-05  9:31   ` Mark Brown

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