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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Maxim Levitsky <mlevitsk@redhat.com>
Cc: Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@tencent.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Brijesh Singh <brijesh.singh@amd.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	x86@kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Zhi Wang <zhi.a.wang@intel.com>,
	Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
	intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Rodrigo Vivi <rodrigo.vivi@intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	intel-gvt-dev@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>,
	Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 03/19] KVM: x86: SVM: remove avic's broken code that updated APIC ID
Date: Mon, 23 May 2022 17:19:16 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YovCFBn5cKcv3iwD@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d1df82a17e6e89ab58d5f6aa911ee2d532efee31.camel@redhat.com>

On Sun, May 22, 2022, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
> On Thu, 2022-05-19 at 16:10 +0000, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
> > > AVIC is now inhibited if the guest changes apic id, thus remove
> > > that broken code.
> > 
> > Can you explicitly call out what's broken?  Just something short on the code not
> > handling the scenario where APIC ID is changed back to vcpu_id to help future
> > archaeologists.  I forget if there are other bugs...
> > 
> 
> 
> Well, the avic_handle_apic_id_update is called each time the AVIC is uninhibited,
> because while it is inhibited, the AVIC code doesn't track changes to APIC ID and such.
> 
> Also there are many ways it is broken for example
> 
> 1. a CPU can't move its APIC ID to a free slot due to (!new) check
> 
> 2. If APIC ID is moved to a used slot, then the CPU that used that overwritten
> slot can't correctly move it, since its now not its slot, not to mention races.

The more the merrier :-)  Any/all of those examples are great, just so long as it's
obvious to future readers that the code truly is busted.

> BTW, if you see a value in it, I can fix this code instead - a lock + going over all the apic ids,
> should be quite easy to implement. In case of two vCPUs using the same APIC ID,
> I can write non present entry to the table, so none will be able to be addressed,
> hoping that the situation is only temporary.

Very strong "no", let's keep this as simple as possible without outright killing
the guest or breaking ABI.  Disabling APICv/AVIC is perfect.

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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Maxim Levitsky <mlevitsk@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@tencent.com>,
	Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
	Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@linux.intel.com>,
	Rodrigo Vivi <rodrigo.vivi@intel.com>,
	Zhenyu Wang <zhenyuw@linux.intel.com>,
	Joonas Lahtinen <joonas.lahtinen@linux.intel.com>,
	Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>,
	Zhi Wang <zhi.a.wang@intel.com>,
	Brijesh Singh <brijesh.singh@amd.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	intel-gvt-dev@lists.freedesktop.org,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 03/19] KVM: x86: SVM: remove avic's broken code that updated APIC ID
Date: Mon, 23 May 2022 17:19:16 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YovCFBn5cKcv3iwD@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d1df82a17e6e89ab58d5f6aa911ee2d532efee31.camel@redhat.com>

On Sun, May 22, 2022, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
> On Thu, 2022-05-19 at 16:10 +0000, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
> > > AVIC is now inhibited if the guest changes apic id, thus remove
> > > that broken code.
> > 
> > Can you explicitly call out what's broken?  Just something short on the code not
> > handling the scenario where APIC ID is changed back to vcpu_id to help future
> > archaeologists.  I forget if there are other bugs...
> > 
> 
> 
> Well, the avic_handle_apic_id_update is called each time the AVIC is uninhibited,
> because while it is inhibited, the AVIC code doesn't track changes to APIC ID and such.
> 
> Also there are many ways it is broken for example
> 
> 1. a CPU can't move its APIC ID to a free slot due to (!new) check
> 
> 2. If APIC ID is moved to a used slot, then the CPU that used that overwritten
> slot can't correctly move it, since its now not its slot, not to mention races.

The more the merrier :-)  Any/all of those examples are great, just so long as it's
obvious to future readers that the code truly is busted.

> BTW, if you see a value in it, I can fix this code instead - a lock + going over all the apic ids,
> should be quite easy to implement. In case of two vCPUs using the same APIC ID,
> I can write non present entry to the table, so none will be able to be addressed,
> hoping that the situation is only temporary.

Very strong "no", let's keep this as simple as possible without outright killing
the guest or breaking ABI.  Disabling APICv/AVIC is perfect.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-23 17:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 159+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-27 20:02 [RFC PATCH v3 00/19] RFC: nested AVIC Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:02 ` [Intel-gfx] " Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:02 ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:02 ` [RFC PATCH v3 01/19] KVM: x86: document AVIC/APICv inhibit reasons Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:02   ` [Intel-gfx] " Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:02   ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-18 15:56   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-05-18 15:56     ` Sean Christopherson
2022-05-18 17:13     ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-18 17:13       ` [Intel-gfx] " Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-18 17:13       ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:02 ` [RFC PATCH v3 02/19] KVM: x86: inhibit APICv/AVIC when the guest and/or host changes apic id/base from the defaults Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:02   ` [Intel-gfx] " Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:02   ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-18  8:28   ` Chao Gao
2022-05-18  8:28     ` [Intel-gfx] " Chao Gao
2022-05-18  8:28     ` Chao Gao
2022-05-18  9:50     ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-18  9:50       ` [Intel-gfx] " Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-18  9:50       ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-18 11:51       ` Chao Gao
2022-05-18 11:51         ` [Intel-gfx] " Chao Gao
2022-05-18 11:51         ` Chao Gao
2022-05-18 12:36         ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-18 12:36           ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-18 12:36           ` [Intel-gfx] " Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-18 15:39       ` Sean Christopherson
2022-05-18 15:39         ` Sean Christopherson
2022-05-18 17:15         ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-18 17:15           ` [Intel-gfx] " Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-18 17:15           ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-19 16:06   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-05-19 16:06     ` Sean Christopherson
2022-05-22  9:03     ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-22  9:03       ` [Intel-gfx] " Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-22  9:03       ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-22 14:47       ` Jim Mattson
2022-05-22 14:47         ` Jim Mattson
2022-05-23  6:50         ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-23  6:50           ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-23  6:50           ` [Intel-gfx] " Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-23 17:22           ` Jim Mattson
2022-05-23 17:22             ` Jim Mattson
2022-05-23 17:31           ` Sean Christopherson
2022-05-23 17:31             ` Sean Christopherson
2022-06-23  9:44     ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-06-23  9:44       ` [Intel-gfx] " Maxim Levitsky
2022-06-23  9:44       ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:02 ` [RFC PATCH v3 03/19] KVM: x86: SVM: remove avic's broken code that updated APIC ID Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:02   ` [Intel-gfx] " Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:02   ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-19 16:10   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-05-19 16:10     ` Sean Christopherson
2022-05-22  9:01     ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-22  9:01       ` [Intel-gfx] " Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-22  9:01       ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-23 17:19       ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2022-05-23 17:19         ` Sean Christopherson
2022-04-27 20:02 ` [RFC PATCH v3 04/19] KVM: x86: mmu: allow to enable write tracking externally Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:02   ` [Intel-gfx] " Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:02   ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-19 16:27   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-05-19 16:27     ` Sean Christopherson
2022-05-22 10:21     ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-22 10:21       ` [Intel-gfx] " Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-22 10:21       ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-19 16:37   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-05-19 16:37     ` Sean Christopherson
2022-05-22 10:22     ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-22 10:22       ` [Intel-gfx] " Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-22 10:22       ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-07-20 14:42       ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-07-20 14:42         ` [Intel-gfx] " Maxim Levitsky
2022-07-20 14:42         ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-07-25 16:08         ` Sean Christopherson
2022-07-25 16:08           ` [Intel-gfx] " Sean Christopherson
2022-07-25 16:08           ` Sean Christopherson
2022-07-28  7:46           ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-07-28  7:46             ` [Intel-gfx] " Maxim Levitsky
2022-07-28  7:46             ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-08-01 15:53             ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-08-01 15:53               ` [Intel-gfx] " Maxim Levitsky
2022-08-01 15:53               ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-08-01 17:20             ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-01 17:20               ` [Intel-gfx] " Sean Christopherson
2022-08-01 17:20               ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-08 13:13               ` Nested AVIC design (was:Re: [RFC PATCH v3 04/19] KVM: x86: mmu: allow to enable write tracking externally) Maxim Levitsky
2022-08-08 13:13                 ` [Intel-gfx] " Maxim Levitsky
2022-08-08 13:13                 ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-09-29 22:38                 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-09-29 22:38                   ` [Intel-gfx] " Sean Christopherson
2022-09-29 22:38                   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-10-03  7:27                   ` [Intel-gfx] " Maxim Levitsky
2022-10-03  7:27                     ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-10-03  7:27                     ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-11-10  0:47                     ` Sean Christopherson
2022-11-10  0:47                       ` [Intel-gfx] " Sean Christopherson
2022-11-10  0:47                       ` Sean Christopherson
2022-04-27 20:03 ` [RFC PATCH v3 05/19] x86: KVMGT: use kvm_page_track_write_tracking_enable Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03   ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03   ` [Intel-gfx] " Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-19 16:38   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-05-19 16:38     ` Sean Christopherson
2022-04-27 20:03 ` [RFC PATCH v3 06/19] KVM: x86: mmu: add gfn_in_memslot helper Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03   ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03   ` [Intel-gfx] " Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-19 16:43   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-05-19 16:43     ` Sean Christopherson
2022-05-22 10:22     ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-22 10:22       ` [Intel-gfx] " Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-22 10:22       ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-22 12:12     ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-22 12:12       ` [Intel-gfx] " Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-22 12:12       ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03 ` [RFC PATCH v3 07/19] KVM: x86: mmu: tweak fast path for emulation of access to nested NPT pages Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03   ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03   ` [Intel-gfx] " Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03 ` [RFC PATCH v3 08/19] KVM: x86: SVM: move avic state to separate struct Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03   ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03   ` [Intel-gfx] " Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03 ` [RFC PATCH v3 09/19] KVM: x86: nSVM: add nested AVIC tracepoints Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03   ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03   ` [Intel-gfx] " Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03 ` [RFC PATCH v3 10/19] KVM: x86: nSVM: implement AVIC's physid/logid table access helpers Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03   ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03   ` [Intel-gfx] " Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03 ` [RFC PATCH v3 11/19] KVM: x86: nSVM: implement shadowing of AVIC's physical id table Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03   ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03   ` [Intel-gfx] " Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03 ` [RFC PATCH v3 12/19] KVM: x86: nSVM: make nested AVIC physid write tracking be aware of the host scheduling Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03   ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03   ` [Intel-gfx] " Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03 ` [Intel-gfx] [RFC PATCH v3 13/19] KVM: x86: nSVM: wire nested AVIC to nested guest entry/exit Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03   ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03   ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03 ` [RFC PATCH v3 14/19] KVM: x86: rename .set_apic_access_page_addr to reload_apic_access_page Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03   ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03   ` [Intel-gfx] " Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-19 16:55   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-05-19 16:55     ` Sean Christopherson
2022-05-22 10:22     ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-22 10:22       ` [Intel-gfx] " Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-22 10:22       ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03 ` [RFC PATCH v3 15/19] KVM: x86: nSVM: add code to reload AVIC physid table when it is invalidated Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03   ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03   ` [Intel-gfx] " Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03 ` [RFC PATCH v3 16/19] KVM: x86: nSVM: implement support for nested AVIC vmexits Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03   ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03   ` [Intel-gfx] " Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03 ` [RFC PATCH v3 17/19] KVM: x86: nSVM: implement nested AVIC doorbell emulation Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03   ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03   ` [Intel-gfx] " Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03 ` [RFC PATCH v3 18/19] KVM: x86: SVM/nSVM: add optional non strict AVIC doorbell mode Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03   ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03   ` [Intel-gfx] " Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03 ` [RFC PATCH v3 19/19] KVM: x86: nSVM: expose the nested AVIC to the guest Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03   ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03   ` [Intel-gfx] " Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:11 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.BUILD: failure for RFC: nested AVIC (rev2) Patchwork

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