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From: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
To: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Heiko Carstens <hca@linux.ibm.com>,
	Alexander Gordeev <agordeev@linux.ibm.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] random: remove CONFIG_ARCH_RANDOM and "nordrand"
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2022 21:36:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YsSStCQQf008hF2F@zn.tnic> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220705190121.293703-1-Jason@zx2c4.com>

On Tue, Jul 05, 2022 at 09:01:21PM +0200, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
> @@ -26,7 +18,6 @@ __setup("nordrand", x86_rdrand_setup);
>   */
>  #define SANITY_CHECK_LOOPS 8
>  
> -#ifdef CONFIG_ARCH_RANDOM
>  void x86_init_rdrand(struct cpuinfo_x86 *c)
>  {
>  	unsigned int changed = 0;
> @@ -59,8 +50,6 @@ void x86_init_rdrand(struct cpuinfo_x86 *c)
>  	}
>  
>  	if (WARN_ON_ONCE(!changed))
> -		pr_emerg(
> -"RDRAND gives funky smelling output, might consider not using it by booting with \"nordrand\"");
> +		pr_emerg("RDRAND gives funky smelling output; update microcode or firmware.");

It is highly unlikely to get a BIOS or microcode update for that matter,
for old systems:

7879fc4bdc75 ("x86/rdrand: Sanity-check RDRAND output")

so I guess here you're better off saying that the kernel simply disables
rdrand support and do

	clear_cpu_cap(c, X86_FEATURE_RDRAND);

here too.

If I read the commit message above correctly, it sounds like RDRAND
output is not that important anyway...

Thx.

-- 
Regards/Gruss,
    Boris.

https://people.kernel.org/tglx/notes-about-netiquette

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
To: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Heiko Carstens <hca@linux.ibm.com>,
	Alexander Gordeev <agordeev@linux.ibm.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] random: remove CONFIG_ARCH_RANDOM and "nordrand"
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2022 21:36:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YsSStCQQf008hF2F@zn.tnic> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220705190121.293703-1-Jason@zx2c4.com>

On Tue, Jul 05, 2022 at 09:01:21PM +0200, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
> @@ -26,7 +18,6 @@ __setup("nordrand", x86_rdrand_setup);
>   */
>  #define SANITY_CHECK_LOOPS 8
>  
> -#ifdef CONFIG_ARCH_RANDOM
>  void x86_init_rdrand(struct cpuinfo_x86 *c)
>  {
>  	unsigned int changed = 0;
> @@ -59,8 +50,6 @@ void x86_init_rdrand(struct cpuinfo_x86 *c)
>  	}
>  
>  	if (WARN_ON_ONCE(!changed))
> -		pr_emerg(
> -"RDRAND gives funky smelling output, might consider not using it by booting with \"nordrand\"");
> +		pr_emerg("RDRAND gives funky smelling output; update microcode or firmware.");

It is highly unlikely to get a BIOS or microcode update for that matter,
for old systems:

7879fc4bdc75 ("x86/rdrand: Sanity-check RDRAND output")

so I guess here you're better off saying that the kernel simply disables
rdrand support and do

	clear_cpu_cap(c, X86_FEATURE_RDRAND);

here too.

If I read the commit message above correctly, it sounds like RDRAND
output is not that important anyway...

Thx.

-- 
Regards/Gruss,
    Boris.

https://people.kernel.org/tglx/notes-about-netiquette

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WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
To: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
Cc: linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, "H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Heiko Carstens <hca@linux.ibm.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Alexander Gordeev <agordeev@linux.ibm.com>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] random: remove CONFIG_ARCH_RANDOM and "nordrand"
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2022 21:36:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YsSStCQQf008hF2F@zn.tnic> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220705190121.293703-1-Jason@zx2c4.com>

On Tue, Jul 05, 2022 at 09:01:21PM +0200, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
> @@ -26,7 +18,6 @@ __setup("nordrand", x86_rdrand_setup);
>   */
>  #define SANITY_CHECK_LOOPS 8
>  
> -#ifdef CONFIG_ARCH_RANDOM
>  void x86_init_rdrand(struct cpuinfo_x86 *c)
>  {
>  	unsigned int changed = 0;
> @@ -59,8 +50,6 @@ void x86_init_rdrand(struct cpuinfo_x86 *c)
>  	}
>  
>  	if (WARN_ON_ONCE(!changed))
> -		pr_emerg(
> -"RDRAND gives funky smelling output, might consider not using it by booting with \"nordrand\"");
> +		pr_emerg("RDRAND gives funky smelling output; update microcode or firmware.");

It is highly unlikely to get a BIOS or microcode update for that matter,
for old systems:

7879fc4bdc75 ("x86/rdrand: Sanity-check RDRAND output")

so I guess here you're better off saying that the kernel simply disables
rdrand support and do

	clear_cpu_cap(c, X86_FEATURE_RDRAND);

here too.

If I read the commit message above correctly, it sounds like RDRAND
output is not that important anyway...

Thx.

-- 
Regards/Gruss,
    Boris.

https://people.kernel.org/tglx/notes-about-netiquette

  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-05 19:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-05 19:01 [PATCH] random: remove CONFIG_ARCH_RANDOM and "nordrand" Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-05 19:01 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-05 19:01 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-05 19:36 ` Borislav Petkov [this message]
2022-07-05 19:36   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-07-05 19:36   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-07-05 19:44   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-05 19:44     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-05 19:44     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-05 19:57     ` Borislav Petkov
2022-07-05 19:57       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-07-05 19:57       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-07-05 21:50       ` H. Peter Anvin
2022-07-05 21:50         ` H. Peter Anvin
2022-07-05 21:50         ` H. Peter Anvin
2022-07-05 22:00         ` Borislav Petkov
2022-07-05 22:00           ` Borislav Petkov
2022-07-05 22:00           ` Borislav Petkov
2022-07-05 23:11           ` H. Peter Anvin
2022-07-05 23:11             ` H. Peter Anvin
2022-07-05 23:11             ` H. Peter Anvin
2022-07-06 12:23             ` Borislav Petkov
2022-07-06 12:23               ` Borislav Petkov
2022-07-06 12:23               ` Borislav Petkov
2022-07-06 16:42               ` H. Peter Anvin
2022-07-06 16:42                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2022-07-06 16:42                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2022-07-06  0:28         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-06  0:28           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-06  0:28           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-06  0:32           ` [PATCH v2] random: remove CONFIG_ARCH_RANDOM Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-06  0:32             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-06  6:41             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-07-06  6:41               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-07-06  6:41               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-07-06  8:40             ` Heiko Carstens
2022-07-06  8:40               ` Heiko Carstens
2022-07-06  8:40               ` Heiko Carstens
2022-07-06 10:54             ` [PATCH v3] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-06 10:54               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-06 12:35               ` Borislav Petkov
2022-07-06 12:35                 ` Borislav Petkov
2022-07-06 12:35                 ` Borislav Petkov
2022-07-06 13:55                 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-06 13:55                   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-06 13:55                   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-06 14:35                   ` [PATCH v4] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-06 14:35                     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-08  0:40                     ` [PATCH v5] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-08  0:40                       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-13 15:46                       ` Catalin Marinas
2022-07-13 15:46                         ` Catalin Marinas
2022-07-13 15:46                         ` Catalin Marinas
2022-07-18 12:53                       ` Michael Ellerman
2022-07-18 12:53                         ` Michael Ellerman
2022-08-12 13:50                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-08-12 13:50                         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-08-12 13:50                         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-07-06 12:30           ` [PATCH] random: remove CONFIG_ARCH_RANDOM and "nordrand" Borislav Petkov
2022-07-06 12:30             ` Borislav Petkov
2022-07-06 12:30             ` Borislav Petkov
2022-07-06 14:55 ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-07-06 14:55   ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-07-06 14:55   ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-07-06 15:24   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-06 15:24     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-06 15:24     ` Jason A. Donenfeld

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