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From: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Elliot Berman <quic_eberman@quicinc.com>
Cc: Bjorn Andersson <quic_bjorande@quicinc.com>,
	Murali Nalajala <quic_mnalajal@quicinc.com>,
	Trilok Soni <quic_tsoni@quicinc.com>,
	Srivatsa Vaddagiri <quic_svaddagi@quicinc.com>,
	Carl van Schaik <quic_cvanscha@quicinc.com>,
	Andy Gross <agross@kernel.org>,
	Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@linaro.org>,
	Jassi Brar <jassisinghbrar@gmail.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>,
	Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>,
	Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>, Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 06/14] virt: gunyah: Add sysfs nodes
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2022 08:23:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yz0i7VNc4oK58yh9@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2a8c1752-818d-bf19-5a3a-095b969c5c5a@quicinc.com>

On Tue, Oct 04, 2022 at 04:50:51PM -0700, Elliot Berman wrote:
> 
> 
> On 9/30/2022 5:09 AM, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 12:56:25PM -0700, Elliot Berman wrote:
> > > Add /sys/hypervisor support when detecting that Linux is running in a
> > > Gunyah environment. Export the version of Gunyah which is reported via
> > > the hyp_identify hypercall.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Elliot Berman <quic_eberman@quicinc.com>
> > > ---
> > >   .../ABI/testing/sysfs-hypervisor-gunyah       | 15 ++++
> > >   MAINTAINERS                                   |  1 +
> > >   drivers/virt/Makefile                         |  1 +
> > >   drivers/virt/gunyah/Makefile                  |  2 +
> > >   drivers/virt/gunyah/sysfs.c                   | 71 +++++++++++++++++++
> > >   5 files changed, 90 insertions(+)
> > >   create mode 100644 Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-hypervisor-gunyah
> > >   create mode 100644 drivers/virt/gunyah/Makefile
> > >   create mode 100644 drivers/virt/gunyah/sysfs.c
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-hypervisor-gunyah b/Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-hypervisor-gunyah
> > > new file mode 100644
> > > index 000000000000..7d74e74e9edd
> > > --- /dev/null
> > > +++ b/Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-hypervisor-gunyah
> > > @@ -0,0 +1,15 @@
> > > +What:		/sys/hypervisor/gunyah/api
> > > +Date:		October 2022
> > > +KernelVersion:	6.1
> > > +Contact:	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org
> > > +Description:	If running under Gunyah:
> > > +		The Gunyah API version.
> > 
> > What does this version mean?  What format is it in?
> > 
> 
> The version is incremented on backwards-incompatible API changes. It's an
> integer: I've updated the description to mention it's an integer. FYI -- we
> are still currently at "1" and not aiming to increment this number. I'd like
> to get it reported in sysfs in case the version is incremented later.

If you change it in the future to be backwards incompatible, then you
have to change your kernel code anyway and userspace still has to keep
working the same so it would use a totally different interface.

So why is this even needed at all?

> > > +
> > > +What:		/sys/hypervisor/gunyah/variant
> > > +Date:		October 2022
> > > +KernelVersion:	6.1
> > > +Contact:	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org
> > > +Description:	If running under Gunyah:
> > > +		Reports the build variant of Gunyah:
> > > +		The open source build of Gunyah will report "81".
> > > +		The Qualcomm build of Gunyah will report "72".
> > 
> > So there are only 2 versions variants?  What happens when you get a
> > third?  And why the odd numbers?
> > 
> 
> The kernel isn't parsing the reported build variant and is passing the
> reported value up to the sysfs node. If a new third variant comes along, its
> build variant number would be reported. Would it be preferred to instead
> link to Gunyah's definitions for the build variant?

Just document what these random numbers mean please and what userspace
is to do with them.  If nothing, and this is just information, who would
use that information?  And if no one, why report it at all? 

thanks,

greg k-h

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From: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Elliot Berman <quic_eberman@quicinc.com>
Cc: Bjorn Andersson <quic_bjorande@quicinc.com>,
	Murali Nalajala <quic_mnalajal@quicinc.com>,
	Trilok Soni <quic_tsoni@quicinc.com>,
	Srivatsa Vaddagiri <quic_svaddagi@quicinc.com>,
	Carl van Schaik <quic_cvanscha@quicinc.com>,
	Andy Gross <agross@kernel.org>,
	Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@linaro.org>,
	Jassi Brar <jassisinghbrar@gmail.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>,
	Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>,
	Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>, Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 06/14] virt: gunyah: Add sysfs nodes
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2022 08:23:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yz0i7VNc4oK58yh9@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2a8c1752-818d-bf19-5a3a-095b969c5c5a@quicinc.com>

On Tue, Oct 04, 2022 at 04:50:51PM -0700, Elliot Berman wrote:
> 
> 
> On 9/30/2022 5:09 AM, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 12:56:25PM -0700, Elliot Berman wrote:
> > > Add /sys/hypervisor support when detecting that Linux is running in a
> > > Gunyah environment. Export the version of Gunyah which is reported via
> > > the hyp_identify hypercall.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Elliot Berman <quic_eberman@quicinc.com>
> > > ---
> > >   .../ABI/testing/sysfs-hypervisor-gunyah       | 15 ++++
> > >   MAINTAINERS                                   |  1 +
> > >   drivers/virt/Makefile                         |  1 +
> > >   drivers/virt/gunyah/Makefile                  |  2 +
> > >   drivers/virt/gunyah/sysfs.c                   | 71 +++++++++++++++++++
> > >   5 files changed, 90 insertions(+)
> > >   create mode 100644 Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-hypervisor-gunyah
> > >   create mode 100644 drivers/virt/gunyah/Makefile
> > >   create mode 100644 drivers/virt/gunyah/sysfs.c
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-hypervisor-gunyah b/Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-hypervisor-gunyah
> > > new file mode 100644
> > > index 000000000000..7d74e74e9edd
> > > --- /dev/null
> > > +++ b/Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-hypervisor-gunyah
> > > @@ -0,0 +1,15 @@
> > > +What:		/sys/hypervisor/gunyah/api
> > > +Date:		October 2022
> > > +KernelVersion:	6.1
> > > +Contact:	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org
> > > +Description:	If running under Gunyah:
> > > +		The Gunyah API version.
> > 
> > What does this version mean?  What format is it in?
> > 
> 
> The version is incremented on backwards-incompatible API changes. It's an
> integer: I've updated the description to mention it's an integer. FYI -- we
> are still currently at "1" and not aiming to increment this number. I'd like
> to get it reported in sysfs in case the version is incremented later.

If you change it in the future to be backwards incompatible, then you
have to change your kernel code anyway and userspace still has to keep
working the same so it would use a totally different interface.

So why is this even needed at all?

> > > +
> > > +What:		/sys/hypervisor/gunyah/variant
> > > +Date:		October 2022
> > > +KernelVersion:	6.1
> > > +Contact:	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org
> > > +Description:	If running under Gunyah:
> > > +		Reports the build variant of Gunyah:
> > > +		The open source build of Gunyah will report "81".
> > > +		The Qualcomm build of Gunyah will report "72".
> > 
> > So there are only 2 versions variants?  What happens when you get a
> > third?  And why the odd numbers?
> > 
> 
> The kernel isn't parsing the reported build variant and is passing the
> reported value up to the sysfs node. If a new third variant comes along, its
> build variant number would be reported. Would it be preferred to instead
> link to Gunyah's definitions for the build variant?

Just document what these random numbers mean please and what userspace
is to do with them.  If nothing, and this is just information, who would
use that information?  And if no one, why report it at all? 

thanks,

greg k-h

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Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-28 19:56 [PATCH v4 00/14] Drivers for gunyah hypervisor Elliot Berman
2022-09-28 19:56 ` Elliot Berman
2022-09-28 19:56 ` [PATCH v4 01/14] docs: gunyah: Introduce Gunyah Hypervisor Elliot Berman
2022-09-28 19:56   ` Elliot Berman
2022-09-29  3:43   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-09-29  3:43     ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-09-29  4:02     ` Elliot Berman
2022-09-29  4:02       ` Elliot Berman
2022-09-28 19:56 ` [PATCH v4 02/14] dt-bindings: Add binding for gunyah hypervisor Elliot Berman
2022-09-28 19:56   ` Elliot Berman
2022-09-28 19:56 ` [PATCH v4 03/14] gunyah: Common types and error codes for Gunyah hypercalls Elliot Berman
2022-09-28 19:56   ` Elliot Berman
2022-09-28 19:56 ` [PATCH v4 04/14] arm64: smccc: Include alternative-macros.h Elliot Berman
2022-09-28 19:56   ` Elliot Berman
2022-09-28 19:56 ` [PATCH v4 05/14] virt: gunyah: Add hypercalls to identify Gunyah Elliot Berman
2022-09-28 19:56   ` Elliot Berman
2022-09-28 19:56 ` [PATCH v4 06/14] virt: gunyah: Add sysfs nodes Elliot Berman
2022-09-28 19:56   ` Elliot Berman
2022-09-30 12:09   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-09-30 12:09     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-10-04 23:50     ` Elliot Berman
2022-10-04 23:50       ` Elliot Berman
2022-10-05  6:23       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman [this message]
2022-10-05  6:23         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-09-28 19:56 ` [PATCH v4 07/14] mailbox: Allow direct registration to a channel Elliot Berman
2022-09-28 19:56   ` Elliot Berman
2022-09-28 19:56 ` [PATCH v4 08/14] virt: gunyah: msgq: Add hypercalls to send and receive messages Elliot Berman
2022-09-28 19:56   ` Elliot Berman
2022-09-28 19:56 ` [PATCH v4 09/14] mailbox: Add Gunyah message queue mailbox Elliot Berman
2022-09-28 19:56   ` Elliot Berman
2022-09-29 16:59   ` Bjorn Andersson
2022-09-29 16:59     ` Bjorn Andersson
2022-09-29 17:37     ` Jassi Brar
2022-09-29 17:37       ` Jassi Brar
2022-09-28 19:56 ` [PATCH v4 10/14] gunyah: sysfs: Add node to describe supported features Elliot Berman
2022-09-28 19:56   ` Elliot Berman
2022-09-29  7:36   ` Joe Perches
2022-09-29  7:36     ` Joe Perches
2022-09-29 20:47     ` Elliot Berman
2022-09-29 20:47       ` Elliot Berman
2022-10-02 23:30     ` Jeff Johnson
2022-10-02 23:30       ` Jeff Johnson
2022-10-02 23:58       ` Joe Perches
2022-10-02 23:58         ` Joe Perches
2022-09-30 12:06   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-09-30 12:06     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-10-04 23:53     ` Elliot Berman
2022-10-04 23:53       ` Elliot Berman
2022-09-28 19:56 ` [PATCH v4 11/14] gunyah: rsc_mgr: Add resource manager RPC core Elliot Berman
2022-09-28 19:56   ` Elliot Berman
2022-09-28 19:56 ` [PATCH v4 12/14] gunyah: rsc_mgr: Add RPC for console services Elliot Berman
2022-09-28 19:56   ` Elliot Berman
2022-09-30 12:22   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-09-30 12:22     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-10-03  1:46     ` new checkpatch flexible array test ? (was Re: [PATCH v4 12/14] gunyah: rsc_mgr: Add RPC for console services) Joe Perches
2022-10-03  1:46       ` Joe Perches
2022-10-03  5:29       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-10-03  5:29         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-10-03  5:38         ` Joe Perches
2022-10-03  5:38           ` Joe Perches
2022-10-31 18:23           ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2022-10-31 18:23             ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2022-09-28 19:56 ` [PATCH v4 13/14] gunyah: rsc_mgr: Add auxiliary devices for console Elliot Berman
2022-09-28 19:56   ` Elliot Berman
2022-09-30 12:19   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-09-30 12:19     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-10-04 23:49     ` Elliot Berman
2022-10-04 23:49       ` Elliot Berman
2022-10-05  6:21       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-10-05  6:21         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-10-05 21:47         ` Elliot Berman
2022-10-05 21:47           ` Elliot Berman
2022-10-06  6:28           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-10-06  6:28             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-09-28 19:56 ` [PATCH v4 14/14] tty: gunyah: Add tty console driver for RM Console Services Elliot Berman
2022-09-28 19:56   ` Elliot Berman
2022-09-30 12:17   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-09-30 12:17     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-10-07  5:59     ` Elliot Berman
2022-10-07  5:59       ` Elliot Berman
2022-10-07  7:40       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-10-07  7:40         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-10-09 20:59         ` Elliot Berman
2022-10-09 20:59           ` Elliot Berman
2022-10-10 20:23           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-10-10 20:23             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-10-10 20:58             ` Elliot Berman
2022-10-10 20:58               ` Elliot Berman
2022-10-11  6:22               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-10-11  6:22                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-10-11 22:04                 ` Elliot Berman
2022-10-11 22:04                   ` Elliot Berman
2022-10-12  6:53                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-10-12  6:53                     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-10-08  7:41     ` Zhou Furong
2022-10-08  7:41       ` Zhou Furong
2022-10-08  9:52       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-10-08  9:52         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-10-03  7:01   ` Jiri Slaby
2022-10-03  7:01     ` Jiri Slaby
2022-10-10 18:06     ` Elliot Berman
2022-10-10 18:06       ` Elliot Berman

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