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* Fwd: XPS 17 9730 runs significantly warmer on Kernel 6.5-rc3 compared to Kernel 6.4.3
@ 2023-07-27 14:25 Bagas Sanjaya
  2023-07-28  1:31 ` Bagas Sanjaya
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Bagas Sanjaya @ 2023-07-27 14:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Amit Daniel Kachhap, Daniel Lezcano, Viresh Kumar, Goran
  Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List, Linux Regressions, Linux Power Management

Hi,

I notice a regression report on Bugzilla [1]. Quoting from it:

> On my new XPS 17 9730 laptop, I recently installed the Kernel 6.5-rc3. I noticed, however, that during its operation, the laptop was getting significantly warmer than before. I did some analysis using the 'stress' tool to measure and compare the difference in CPU temperatures between Kernel 6.4.3 and Kernel 6.5-rc3. Here are my results:
> 
> OS: Ubuntu 23.10
> CPU: i7-13700H
> 
> kernel 6.4.3:
>                                                                                                                                                                                         
> Initial CPU temperature:
> coretemp-isa-0000
> Core 0:        +47.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 4:        +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 8:        +46.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 12:       +46.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 16:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 20:       +44.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 24:       +44.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 25:       +44.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 26:       +44.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 27:       +44.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 28:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 29:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 30:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 31:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Stressing CPU for 30 seconds...
> stress: info: [4858] dispatching hogs: 14 cpu, 0 io, 0 vm, 0 hdd
> stress: info: [4858] successful run completed in 30s
> CPU temperature immediately after stress test:
> coretemp-isa-0000
> Core 0:        +67.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 4:        +76.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 8:        +69.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 12:       +77.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 16:       +69.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 20:       +76.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 24:       +68.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 25:       +68.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 26:       +68.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 27:       +68.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 28:       +71.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 29:       +71.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 30:       +71.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 31:       +71.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Test ended at: Tue Jul 25 01:10:16 PM CEST 2023
> 
> 
> kernel 6.5-rc-3:
> 
> Initial CPU temperature:
> coretemp-isa-0000
> Core 0:        +46.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 4:        +46.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 8:        +46.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 12:       +46.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 16:       +44.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 20:       +44.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 24:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 25:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 26:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 27:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 28:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 29:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 30:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 31:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Stressing CPU for 30 seconds...
> stress: info: [11146] dispatching hogs: 14 cpu, 0 io, 0 vm, 0 hdd
> stress: info: [11146] successful run completed in 30s
> CPU temperature immediately after stress test:
> coretemp-isa-0000
> Core 0:        +84.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 4:        +97.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 8:        +87.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 12:      +100.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 16:       +86.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 20:       +99.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 24:       +83.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 25:       +83.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 26:       +83.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 27:       +83.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 28:       +89.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 29:       +89.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 30:       +89.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 31:       +89.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Test ended at: Tue Jul 25 01:05:42 PM CEST 2023
> 
> I tested few times with different setup and CPU temp on 6.5-rc3 is always higher especially when stressing with fewer cores.

See Bugzilla for the full thread.

Goran: On Tuesday, I asked you to perform bisection. Any update on it?

Anyway, I'm adding this regression to regzbot:

#regzbot introduced: v6.4..v6.5-rc3 https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=217703
#regzbot title: significant temperature increase on XPS 17 9730

Thanks.

[1]: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=217703

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* Re: Fwd: XPS 17 9730 runs significantly warmer on Kernel 6.5-rc3 compared to Kernel 6.4.3
  2023-07-27 14:25 Fwd: XPS 17 9730 runs significantly warmer on Kernel 6.5-rc3 compared to Kernel 6.4.3 Bagas Sanjaya
@ 2023-07-28  1:31 ` Bagas Sanjaya
  2023-07-28  7:00   ` Bagas Sanjaya
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Bagas Sanjaya @ 2023-07-28  1:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Amit Daniel Kachhap, Daniel Lezcano, Viresh Kumar, Goran
  Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List, Linux Regressions, Linux Power Management

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On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 09:25:19PM +0700, Bagas Sanjaya wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I notice a regression report on Bugzilla [1]. Quoting from it:
> 
> > On my new XPS 17 9730 laptop, I recently installed the Kernel 6.5-rc3. I noticed, however, that during its operation, the laptop was getting significantly warmer than before. I did some analysis using the 'stress' tool to measure and compare the difference in CPU temperatures between Kernel 6.4.3 and Kernel 6.5-rc3. Here are my results:
> > 
> > OS: Ubuntu 23.10
> > CPU: i7-13700H
> > 
> > kernel 6.4.3:
> >                                                                                                                                                                                         
> > Initial CPU temperature:
> > coretemp-isa-0000
> > Core 0:        +47.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 4:        +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 8:        +46.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 12:       +46.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 16:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 20:       +44.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 24:       +44.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 25:       +44.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 26:       +44.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 27:       +44.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 28:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 29:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 30:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 31:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Stressing CPU for 30 seconds...
> > stress: info: [4858] dispatching hogs: 14 cpu, 0 io, 0 vm, 0 hdd
> > stress: info: [4858] successful run completed in 30s
> > CPU temperature immediately after stress test:
> > coretemp-isa-0000
> > Core 0:        +67.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 4:        +76.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 8:        +69.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 12:       +77.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 16:       +69.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 20:       +76.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 24:       +68.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 25:       +68.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 26:       +68.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 27:       +68.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 28:       +71.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 29:       +71.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 30:       +71.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 31:       +71.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Test ended at: Tue Jul 25 01:10:16 PM CEST 2023
> > 
> > 
> > kernel 6.5-rc-3:
> > 
> > Initial CPU temperature:
> > coretemp-isa-0000
> > Core 0:        +46.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 4:        +46.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 8:        +46.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 12:       +46.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 16:       +44.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 20:       +44.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 24:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 25:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 26:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 27:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 28:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 29:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 30:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 31:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Stressing CPU for 30 seconds...
> > stress: info: [11146] dispatching hogs: 14 cpu, 0 io, 0 vm, 0 hdd
> > stress: info: [11146] successful run completed in 30s
> > CPU temperature immediately after stress test:
> > coretemp-isa-0000
> > Core 0:        +84.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 4:        +97.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 8:        +87.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 12:      +100.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 16:       +86.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 20:       +99.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 24:       +83.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 25:       +83.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 26:       +83.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 27:       +83.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 28:       +89.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 29:       +89.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 30:       +89.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Core 31:       +89.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> > Test ended at: Tue Jul 25 01:05:42 PM CEST 2023
> > 
> > I tested few times with different setup and CPU temp on 6.5-rc3 is always higher especially when stressing with fewer cores.
> 
> See Bugzilla for the full thread.
> 
> Goran: On Tuesday, I asked you to perform bisection. Any update on it?
> 
> Anyway, I'm adding this regression to regzbot:
> 
> #regzbot introduced: v6.4..v6.5-rc3 https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=217703
> #regzbot title: significant temperature increase on XPS 17 9730
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> [1]: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=217703
> 

Oops, I accidentally duped this. My email client was stuck sending it
(but got delivered anyway), thus:

#regzbot dup-of: https://lore.kernel.org/regressions/107f05b8-0104-501c-130c-4f89f3f8a628@gmail.com/

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* Re: Fwd: XPS 17 9730 runs significantly warmer on Kernel 6.5-rc3 compared to Kernel 6.4.3
  2023-07-28  1:31 ` Bagas Sanjaya
@ 2023-07-28  7:00   ` Bagas Sanjaya
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Bagas Sanjaya @ 2023-07-28  7:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Amit Daniel Kachhap, Daniel Lezcano, Viresh Kumar, Goran
  Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List, Linux Regressions, Linux Power Management

On 7/28/23 08:31, Bagas Sanjaya wrote:
> Oops, I accidentally duped this. My email client was stuck sending it
> (but got delivered anyway), thus:
> 
> #regzbot dup-of: https://lore.kernel.org/regressions/107f05b8-0104-501c-130c-4f89f3f8a628@gmail.com/
> 

And to clean regzbot up:

#regzbot invalid: accidental duplicate

Please ignore this thread, and instead follow up the original
forwarded report at [1].

Sorry for inconvenience.

[1]: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/107f05b8-0104-501c-130c-4f89f3f8a628@gmail.com/

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* Re: Fwd: XPS 17 9730 runs significantly warmer on Kernel 6.5-rc3 compared to Kernel 6.4.3
       [not found]   ` <CANhdOJEq-+KaMv=TX7E4ggf7rm456ibha2W_+Y5m1580ngCw_A@mail.gmail.com>
@ 2023-07-28 19:43     ` Thorsten Leemhuis
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Thorsten Leemhuis @ 2023-07-28 19:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Goran Brkuljan
  Cc: Bagas Sanjaya, Rafael J. Wysocki, Linux Kernel Mailing List,
	Linux Regressions, Linux Power Management, Amit Daniel Kachhap,
	Daniel Lezcano, Viresh Kumar

On 28.07.23 20:13, Goran Brkuljan wrote:
> Hi Everyone,

Please don't sent HTML mail to Linux kernel lists, it often will be
rejected.

>     Goran: On Tuesday, I asked you to perform bisection. Any update on it?
> 
>  
> Sorry for the delayed response. I wasn't able to do git bisection as I
> was quite busy this week. 
> 
> However, I am no longer convinced that there is a kernel related issue.
> I reinstalled both kernels and now I get consistent results between two,
> and they both return higher values.
> Now on both kernels, core20 spikes to +100.0°C and it stays there for
> the duration of the test. Other cores are going from 80-95°C.
>
> Note that I used the mainline kernel installer for handling installation. 

FWIW, I (and likely many others that read this) have no idea what
(distro specifc?) tool you are talking about. But I guess that doesn't
matter. :-D

> I would close the issue as tests and behaviour don't suggest significant
> differences between kernel versions. 

Okydo, thx for the update.

#regzbot resolve: notabug: seems everything is working fine

Ciao, Thorsten

> On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 3:42 PM Thorsten Leemhuis
> <regressions@leemhuis.info <mailto:regressions@leemhuis.info>> wrote:
> 
>     [CCing Thermal maintainer Rafael, maybe he can help guide us]
> 
>     Hi Bagas and everyone!
> 
>     On 27.07.23 16:24, Bagas Sanjaya wrote:
>     >
>     > I notice a regression report on Bugzilla [1].
> 
>     Bagas, it looks like you forwarded this to the maintainers of
>     "THERMAL/CPU_COOLING"; I think "THERMAL" would have been the way better
>     entry in MAINTAINERS, as many (all?) of the former are Linaro employees
>     and thus primarily care about ARM based devices. That's why I CCed
>     Rafael.
> 
>     > Quoting from it:
>     >
>     >> On my new XPS 17 9730 laptop, I recently installed the Kernel
>     6.5-rc3. I noticed, however, that during its operation, the laptop
>     was getting significantly warmer than before. I did some analysis
>     using the 'stress' tool to measure and compare the difference in CPU
>     temperatures between Kernel 6.4.3 and Kernel 6.5-rc3. Here are my
>     results:
> 
>     One thought: I wonder if there something wrong now or was there
>     something wrong earlier that was fixed to unleash the full performance
>     potential of the device. That 100°C there sounds like it's the latter
>     case, as that's the TJUNCTION temp for that processor. But would be good
>     to confirm from someone that knows better how hot such processors are
>     allowed to get these days.
> 
>     Ciao, Thorsten
> 
>     >> OS: Ubuntu 23.10
>     >> CPU: i7-13700H
>     >>
>     >> kernel 6.4.3:
>     >>                                                                 
>                                                                        
>                                                        
>     >> Initial CPU temperature:
>     >> coretemp-isa-0000
>     >> Core 0:        +47.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 4:        +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 8:        +46.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 12:       +46.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 16:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 20:       +44.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 24:       +44.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 25:       +44.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 26:       +44.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 27:       +44.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 28:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 29:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 30:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 31:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Stressing CPU for 30 seconds...
>     >> stress: info: [4858] dispatching hogs: 14 cpu, 0 io, 0 vm, 0 hdd
>     >> stress: info: [4858] successful run completed in 30s
>     >> CPU temperature immediately after stress test:
>     >> coretemp-isa-0000
>     >> Core 0:        +67.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 4:        +76.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 8:        +69.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 12:       +77.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 16:       +69.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 20:       +76.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 24:       +68.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 25:       +68.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 26:       +68.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 27:       +68.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 28:       +71.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 29:       +71.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 30:       +71.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 31:       +71.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Test ended at: Tue Jul 25 01:10:16 PM CEST 2023
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> kernel 6.5-rc-3:
>     >>
>     >> Initial CPU temperature:
>     >> coretemp-isa-0000
>     >> Core 0:        +46.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 4:        +46.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 8:        +46.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 12:       +46.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 16:       +44.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 20:       +44.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 24:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 25:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 26:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 27:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 28:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 29:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 30:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 31:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Stressing CPU for 30 seconds...
>     >> stress: info: [11146] dispatching hogs: 14 cpu, 0 io, 0 vm, 0 hdd
>     >> stress: info: [11146] successful run completed in 30s
>     >> CPU temperature immediately after stress test:
>     >> coretemp-isa-0000
>     >> Core 0:        +84.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 4:        +97.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 8:        +87.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 12:      +100.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 16:       +86.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 20:       +99.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 24:       +83.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 25:       +83.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 26:       +83.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 27:       +83.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 28:       +89.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 29:       +89.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 30:       +89.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Core 31:       +89.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>     >> Test ended at: Tue Jul 25 01:05:42 PM CEST 2023
>     >>
>     >> I tested few times with different setup and CPU temp on 6.5-rc3
>     is always higher especially when stressing with fewer cores.
>     >
>     > See Bugzilla for the full thread.
>     >
>     > Goran: On Tuesday, I asked you to perform bisection. Any update on it?
>     >
>     > Anyway, I'm adding this regression to regzbot:
>     >
>     > #regzbot introduced: v6.4..v6.5-rc3
>     https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=217703
>     <https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=217703>
>     > #regzbot title: significant temperature increase on XPS 17 9730
>     >
>     > Thanks.
>     >
>     > [1]: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=217703
>     <https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=217703>
>     >
> 

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* Re: Fwd: XPS 17 9730 runs significantly warmer on Kernel 6.5-rc3 compared to Kernel 6.4.3
  2023-07-27 14:24 Bagas Sanjaya
@ 2023-07-28 13:42 ` Thorsten Leemhuis
       [not found]   ` <CANhdOJEq-+KaMv=TX7E4ggf7rm456ibha2W_+Y5m1580ngCw_A@mail.gmail.com>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Thorsten Leemhuis @ 2023-07-28 13:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bagas Sanjaya, Rafael J. Wysocki
  Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List, Linux Regressions,
	Linux Power Management, Goran, Amit Daniel Kachhap,
	Daniel Lezcano, Viresh Kumar

[CCing Thermal maintainer Rafael, maybe he can help guide us]

Hi Bagas and everyone!

On 27.07.23 16:24, Bagas Sanjaya wrote:
>
> I notice a regression report on Bugzilla [1].

Bagas, it looks like you forwarded this to the maintainers of
"THERMAL/CPU_COOLING"; I think "THERMAL" would have been the way better
entry in MAINTAINERS, as many (all?) of the former are Linaro employees
and thus primarily care about ARM based devices. That's why I CCed Rafael.

> Quoting from it:
> 
>> On my new XPS 17 9730 laptop, I recently installed the Kernel 6.5-rc3. I noticed, however, that during its operation, the laptop was getting significantly warmer than before. I did some analysis using the 'stress' tool to measure and compare the difference in CPU temperatures between Kernel 6.4.3 and Kernel 6.5-rc3. Here are my results:

One thought: I wonder if there something wrong now or was there
something wrong earlier that was fixed to unleash the full performance
potential of the device. That 100°C there sounds like it's the latter
case, as that's the TJUNCTION temp for that processor. But would be good
to confirm from someone that knows better how hot such processors are
allowed to get these days.

Ciao, Thorsten

>> OS: Ubuntu 23.10
>> CPU: i7-13700H
>>
>> kernel 6.4.3:
>>                                                                                                                                                                                         
>> Initial CPU temperature:
>> coretemp-isa-0000
>> Core 0:        +47.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 4:        +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 8:        +46.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 12:       +46.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 16:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 20:       +44.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 24:       +44.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 25:       +44.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 26:       +44.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 27:       +44.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 28:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 29:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 30:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 31:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Stressing CPU for 30 seconds...
>> stress: info: [4858] dispatching hogs: 14 cpu, 0 io, 0 vm, 0 hdd
>> stress: info: [4858] successful run completed in 30s
>> CPU temperature immediately after stress test:
>> coretemp-isa-0000
>> Core 0:        +67.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 4:        +76.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 8:        +69.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 12:       +77.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 16:       +69.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 20:       +76.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 24:       +68.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 25:       +68.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 26:       +68.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 27:       +68.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 28:       +71.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 29:       +71.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 30:       +71.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 31:       +71.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Test ended at: Tue Jul 25 01:10:16 PM CEST 2023
>>
>>
>> kernel 6.5-rc-3:
>>
>> Initial CPU temperature:
>> coretemp-isa-0000
>> Core 0:        +46.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 4:        +46.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 8:        +46.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 12:       +46.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 16:       +44.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 20:       +44.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 24:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 25:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 26:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 27:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 28:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 29:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 30:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 31:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Stressing CPU for 30 seconds...
>> stress: info: [11146] dispatching hogs: 14 cpu, 0 io, 0 vm, 0 hdd
>> stress: info: [11146] successful run completed in 30s
>> CPU temperature immediately after stress test:
>> coretemp-isa-0000
>> Core 0:        +84.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 4:        +97.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 8:        +87.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 12:      +100.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 16:       +86.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 20:       +99.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 24:       +83.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 25:       +83.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 26:       +83.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 27:       +83.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 28:       +89.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 29:       +89.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 30:       +89.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Core 31:       +89.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
>> Test ended at: Tue Jul 25 01:05:42 PM CEST 2023
>>
>> I tested few times with different setup and CPU temp on 6.5-rc3 is always higher especially when stressing with fewer cores.
> 
> See Bugzilla for the full thread.
> 
> Goran: On Tuesday, I asked you to perform bisection. Any update on it?
> 
> Anyway, I'm adding this regression to regzbot:
> 
> #regzbot introduced: v6.4..v6.5-rc3 https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=217703
> #regzbot title: significant temperature increase on XPS 17 9730
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> [1]: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=217703
> 

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* Fwd: XPS 17 9730 runs significantly warmer on Kernel 6.5-rc3 compared to Kernel 6.4.3
@ 2023-07-27 14:24 Bagas Sanjaya
  2023-07-28 13:42 ` Thorsten Leemhuis
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Bagas Sanjaya @ 2023-07-27 14:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Amit Daniel Kachhap, Daniel Lezcano, Viresh Kumar, Goran
  Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List, Linux Regressions, Linux Power Management

Hi,

I notice a regression report on Bugzilla [1]. Quoting from it:

> On my new XPS 17 9730 laptop, I recently installed the Kernel 6.5-rc3. I noticed, however, that during its operation, the laptop was getting significantly warmer than before. I did some analysis using the 'stress' tool to measure and compare the difference in CPU temperatures between Kernel 6.4.3 and Kernel 6.5-rc3. Here are my results:
> 
> OS: Ubuntu 23.10
> CPU: i7-13700H
> 
> kernel 6.4.3:
>                                                                                                                                                                                         
> Initial CPU temperature:
> coretemp-isa-0000
> Core 0:        +47.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 4:        +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 8:        +46.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 12:       +46.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 16:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 20:       +44.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 24:       +44.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 25:       +44.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 26:       +44.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 27:       +44.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 28:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 29:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 30:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 31:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Stressing CPU for 30 seconds...
> stress: info: [4858] dispatching hogs: 14 cpu, 0 io, 0 vm, 0 hdd
> stress: info: [4858] successful run completed in 30s
> CPU temperature immediately after stress test:
> coretemp-isa-0000
> Core 0:        +67.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 4:        +76.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 8:        +69.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 12:       +77.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 16:       +69.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 20:       +76.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 24:       +68.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 25:       +68.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 26:       +68.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 27:       +68.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 28:       +71.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 29:       +71.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 30:       +71.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 31:       +71.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Test ended at: Tue Jul 25 01:10:16 PM CEST 2023
> 
> 
> kernel 6.5-rc-3:
> 
> Initial CPU temperature:
> coretemp-isa-0000
> Core 0:        +46.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 4:        +46.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 8:        +46.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 12:       +46.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 16:       +44.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 20:       +44.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 24:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 25:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 26:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 27:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 28:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 29:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 30:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 31:       +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Stressing CPU for 30 seconds...
> stress: info: [11146] dispatching hogs: 14 cpu, 0 io, 0 vm, 0 hdd
> stress: info: [11146] successful run completed in 30s
> CPU temperature immediately after stress test:
> coretemp-isa-0000
> Core 0:        +84.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 4:        +97.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 8:        +87.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 12:      +100.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 16:       +86.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 20:       +99.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 24:       +83.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 25:       +83.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 26:       +83.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 27:       +83.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 28:       +89.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 29:       +89.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 30:       +89.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Core 31:       +89.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
> Test ended at: Tue Jul 25 01:05:42 PM CEST 2023
> 
> I tested few times with different setup and CPU temp on 6.5-rc3 is always higher especially when stressing with fewer cores.

See Bugzilla for the full thread.

Goran: On Tuesday, I asked you to perform bisection. Any update on it?

Anyway, I'm adding this regression to regzbot:

#regzbot introduced: v6.4..v6.5-rc3 https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=217703
#regzbot title: significant temperature increase on XPS 17 9730

Thanks.

[1]: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=217703

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