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From: Ray Jui <ray.jui@broadcom.com>
To: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
Cc: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Wim Van Sebroeck <wim@linux-watchdog.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Frank Rowand <frowand.list@gmail.com>,
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	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/6] Documentation: DT: Consolidate SP805 binding docs
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2018 11:38:48 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a18733e2-be06-4ea9-dbfb-1d4f756a97e7@broadcom.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180627183327.GD16753@roeck-us.net>



On 6/27/2018 11:33 AM, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 10:39:16AM -0700, Ray Jui wrote:
>> Hi Guenter/Rob,
>>
>> Kindly let me know how you want to proceed with this?
>>
> 
> If I recall correctly, the patch series does not add a new problem
> but merely exposes one. Is my recollection correct ? If so, maybe
> we should just add a note somewhere indicating what might be wrong
> and otherwise apply the series.
> 
> Does this make sense ?

Yes this makes a lot of sense to me. This patch series exposes potential 
problems in some SoCs that they might not be feeding the correct clock 
into WDT, at least based on clock names from their DT entries.

This patch series does not change/affect how SP805 works on those systems.

Where should the note be added?

Many thanks!

Ray

> 
> Guenter
> 
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ray
>>
>> On 6/6/2018 4:39 PM, Ray Jui wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/6/2018 9:33 AM, Rob Herring wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 11:19 AM, Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On 06/05/2018 12:41 PM, Rob Herring wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 11:01:32AM -0700, Ray Jui wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Consolidate two SP805 binding documents "arm,sp805.txt" and
>>>>>>> "sp805-wdt.txt" into "arm,sp805.txt" that matches the naming of the
>>>>>>> desired compatible string to be used
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Ray Jui <ray.jui@broadcom.com>
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>     .../devicetree/bindings/watchdog/arm,sp805.txt     | 27
>>>>>>> ++++++++++++++-----
>>>>>>>     .../devicetree/bindings/watchdog/sp805-wdt.txt     | 31
>>>>>>> ----------------------
>>>>>>>     2 files changed, 20 insertions(+), 38 deletions(-)
>>>>>>>     delete mode 100644
>>>>>>> Documentation/devicetree/bindings/watchdog/sp805-wdt.txt
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would be good to get a ACK from FSL/NXP person on this. It looks to me
>>>>>> like the driver fetches the wrong clock as it gets the first one and
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> driver really wants 'wdog_clk'. In any case, their dts files should be
>>>>>> updated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is really confusing, since he deleted file lists apb_pclk first.
>>>>> Does the watchdog driver need apb_pclk or wdog_clk ? That isn't clear
>>>>> to me.
>>>>> arch/arm64/boot/dts/hisilicon/hi3660.dtsi only provides apb_pclk, or at
>>>>> least
>>>>> it says so.
>>>>
>>>> Note that that clock source is 32KHz. That is obviously a mistake
>>>> because no one clocks their bus/register interface at 32KHz. Someone
>>>> just filled in something that happened to work.
>>>>
>>>>> The fsl dts files all have apb_pclk first.
>>>>
>>>> It's all kind of a mess, but fortunately one we should be able to
>>>> clean-up.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It is indeed a mess. Note the SP805 driver only derive one clock from DT,
>>> and that's not done based on name. As a result, the first clock defined in
>>> DT will be fetched and the rate calculation will be carried out based on
>>> that clock rate.
>>>
>>> I assumed the clock entries and their names defined in the binding
>>> document are just placeholders, at least for the 2nd clock.
>>>
>>> Based on how the current driver is, the first clock needs to be the
>>> WDOGCLK for things to work properly.
>>>
>>> According to the SP805 TRM, APB clock is the PCLK, that drives the bus for
>>> register access.
>>>
>>> The relationship between WDOGCLK and PCLK is defined as:
>>>
>>> - the rising edges of WDOGCLK must be synchronous and
>>> balanced with a rising edge of PCLK
>>>
>>> - the WDOGCLK frequency cannot be greater than the PCLK
>>> frequency
>>>
>>>> The compatible string changes too, but AMBA bus devices don't actually
>>>> use the compatible string as they use the ID registers to match. I
>>>> suppose some other OS could do things differently. Worth the risk to
>>>> clean-up IMO.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Either case, why are two clocks asked for in the first place ? Are there
>>>>> situations where the second clock is actually used/useful ?
>>>>
>>>> For clocks, the bus needs "apb_pclk" and the driver just gets the
>>>> first clock. The driver is obviously going to want the functional
>>>> clock that determines the counter rate. That should
>>>>
>>>> Primecell peripherals are about the only ones that have clear specs
>>>> WRT clock inputs. Yet we've still managed to screw them up. There are
>>>> 2 clocks in the spec, so the DT has (or should have) 2 clocks.
>>>>
>>>> Rob
>>>>
>>>
>>> Let me know how you guys want to proceed with this?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Ray
>> --
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From: ray.jui@broadcom.com (Ray Jui)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v4 1/6] Documentation: DT: Consolidate SP805 binding docs
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2018 11:38:48 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a18733e2-be06-4ea9-dbfb-1d4f756a97e7@broadcom.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180627183327.GD16753@roeck-us.net>



On 6/27/2018 11:33 AM, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 10:39:16AM -0700, Ray Jui wrote:
>> Hi Guenter/Rob,
>>
>> Kindly let me know how you want to proceed with this?
>>
> 
> If I recall correctly, the patch series does not add a new problem
> but merely exposes one. Is my recollection correct ? If so, maybe
> we should just add a note somewhere indicating what might be wrong
> and otherwise apply the series.
> 
> Does this make sense ?

Yes this makes a lot of sense to me. This patch series exposes potential 
problems in some SoCs that they might not be feeding the correct clock 
into WDT, at least based on clock names from their DT entries.

This patch series does not change/affect how SP805 works on those systems.

Where should the note be added?

Many thanks!

Ray

> 
> Guenter
> 
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ray
>>
>> On 6/6/2018 4:39 PM, Ray Jui wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/6/2018 9:33 AM, Rob Herring wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 11:19 AM, Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On 06/05/2018 12:41 PM, Rob Herring wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 11:01:32AM -0700, Ray Jui wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Consolidate two SP805 binding documents "arm,sp805.txt" and
>>>>>>> "sp805-wdt.txt" into "arm,sp805.txt" that matches the naming of the
>>>>>>> desired compatible string to be used
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Ray Jui <ray.jui@broadcom.com>
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>  ?? .../devicetree/bindings/watchdog/arm,sp805.txt???? | 27
>>>>>>> ++++++++++++++-----
>>>>>>>  ?? .../devicetree/bindings/watchdog/sp805-wdt.txt???? | 31
>>>>>>> ----------------------
>>>>>>>  ?? 2 files changed, 20 insertions(+), 38 deletions(-)
>>>>>>>  ?? delete mode 100644
>>>>>>> Documentation/devicetree/bindings/watchdog/sp805-wdt.txt
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would be good to get a ACK from FSL/NXP person on this. It looks to me
>>>>>> like the driver fetches the wrong clock as it gets the first one and
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> driver really wants 'wdog_clk'. In any case, their dts files should be
>>>>>> updated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is really confusing, since he deleted file lists apb_pclk first.
>>>>> Does the watchdog driver need apb_pclk or wdog_clk ? That isn't clear
>>>>> to me.
>>>>> arch/arm64/boot/dts/hisilicon/hi3660.dtsi only provides apb_pclk, or at
>>>>> least
>>>>> it says so.
>>>>
>>>> Note that that clock source is 32KHz. That is obviously a mistake
>>>> because no one clocks their bus/register interface at 32KHz. Someone
>>>> just filled in something that happened to work.
>>>>
>>>>> The fsl dts files all have apb_pclk first.
>>>>
>>>> It's all kind of a mess, but fortunately one we should be able to
>>>> clean-up.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It is indeed a mess. Note the SP805 driver only derive one clock from DT,
>>> and that's not done based on name. As a result, the first clock defined in
>>> DT will be fetched and the rate calculation will be carried out based on
>>> that clock rate.
>>>
>>> I assumed the clock entries and their names defined in the binding
>>> document are just placeholders, at least for the 2nd clock.
>>>
>>> Based on how the current driver is, the first clock needs to be the
>>> WDOGCLK for things to work properly.
>>>
>>> According to the SP805 TRM, APB clock is the PCLK, that drives the bus for
>>> register access.
>>>
>>> The relationship between WDOGCLK and PCLK is defined as:
>>>
>>> - the rising edges of WDOGCLK must be synchronous and
>>> balanced with a rising edge of PCLK
>>>
>>> - the WDOGCLK frequency cannot be greater than the PCLK
>>> frequency
>>>
>>>> The compatible string changes too, but AMBA bus devices don't actually
>>>> use the compatible string as they use the ID registers to match. I
>>>> suppose some other OS could do things differently. Worth the risk to
>>>> clean-up IMO.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Either case, why are two clocks asked for in the first place ? Are there
>>>>> situations where the second clock is actually used/useful ?
>>>>
>>>> For clocks, the bus needs "apb_pclk" and the driver just gets the
>>>> first clock. The driver is obviously going to want the functional
>>>> clock that determines the counter rate. That should
>>>>
>>>> Primecell peripherals are about the only ones that have clear specs
>>>> WRT clock inputs. Yet we've still managed to screw them up. There are
>>>> 2 clocks in the spec, so the DT has (or should have) 2 clocks.
>>>>
>>>> Rob
>>>>
>>>
>>> Let me know how you guys want to proceed with this?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Ray
>> --
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  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-27 18:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-28 18:01 [PATCH v4 0/6] Enhance support for the SP805 WDT Ray Jui
2018-05-28 18:01 ` Ray Jui
2018-05-28 18:01 ` [PATCH v4 1/6] Documentation: DT: Consolidate SP805 binding docs Ray Jui
2018-05-28 18:01   ` Ray Jui
2018-06-05 19:41   ` Rob Herring
2018-06-05 19:41     ` Rob Herring
2018-06-06 16:19     ` Guenter Roeck
2018-06-06 16:19       ` Guenter Roeck
2018-06-06 16:33       ` Rob Herring
2018-06-06 16:33         ` Rob Herring
2018-06-06 23:39         ` Ray Jui
2018-06-06 23:39           ` Ray Jui
2018-06-20 17:39           ` Ray Jui
2018-06-20 17:39             ` Ray Jui
2018-06-27 18:33             ` Guenter Roeck
2018-06-27 18:33               ` Guenter Roeck
2018-06-27 18:38               ` Ray Jui [this message]
2018-06-27 18:38                 ` Ray Jui
2018-06-27 18:42                 ` Guenter Roeck
2018-06-27 18:42                   ` Guenter Roeck
2018-06-27 18:47                   ` Ray Jui
2018-06-27 18:47                     ` Ray Jui
2018-06-27 18:55                     ` Guenter Roeck
2018-06-27 18:55                       ` Guenter Roeck
2018-06-28 23:50                       ` Ray Jui
2018-06-28 23:50                         ` Ray Jui
2018-06-29  3:00                         ` Guenter Roeck
2018-06-29  3:00                           ` Guenter Roeck
2018-06-29  2:55   ` [v4,1/6] " Guenter Roeck
2018-06-29  2:55     ` Guenter Roeck
2018-05-28 18:01 ` [PATCH v4 2/6] Documentation: DT: Add optional 'timeout-sec' property for sp805 Ray Jui
2018-05-28 18:01   ` Ray Jui
2018-05-28 18:01   ` Ray Jui
2018-06-05 19:55   ` Rob Herring
2018-06-05 19:55     ` Rob Herring
2018-06-29  2:55   ` [v4, " Guenter Roeck
2018-06-29  2:55     ` Guenter Roeck
2018-05-28 18:01 ` [PATCH v4 3/6] watchdog: sp805: add 'timeout-sec' DT property support Ray Jui
2018-05-28 18:01   ` Ray Jui
2018-05-28 18:01 ` [PATCH v4 4/6] watchdog: sp805: set WDOG_HW_RUNNING when appropriate Ray Jui
2018-05-28 18:01   ` Ray Jui
2018-05-28 18:01 ` [PATCH v4 5/6] arm64: dt: set initial SR watchdog timeout to 60 seconds Ray Jui
2018-05-28 18:01   ` Ray Jui
2018-07-09 17:40   ` Florian Fainelli
2018-07-09 17:40     ` Florian Fainelli
2018-05-28 18:01 ` [PATCH v4 6/6] arm64: defconfig: add CONFIG_ARM_SP805_WATCHDOG Ray Jui
2018-05-28 18:01   ` Ray Jui
2018-07-09 17:40   ` Florian Fainelli
2018-07-09 17:40     ` Florian Fainelli
2018-06-06 19:29 ` [PATCH v4 0/6] Enhance support for the SP805 WDT Florian Fainelli
2018-06-06 19:29   ` Florian Fainelli
2018-06-06 23:40   ` Ray Jui
2018-06-06 23:40     ` Ray Jui

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