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From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-man@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] fs/select: add vmalloc fallback for select(2)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 19:55:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a212f313-1f34-7c83-3aab-b45374875493@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1474564068.23058.144.camel@edumazet-glaptop3.roam.corp.google.com>

On 09/22/2016 07:07 PM, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> On Thu, 2016-09-22 at 18:56 +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>> On 09/22/2016 06:49 PM, Eric Dumazet wrote:
>> > On Thu, 2016-09-22 at 18:43 +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>> >> The select(2) syscall performs a kmalloc(size, GFP_KERNEL) where size grows
>> >> with the number of fds passed. We had a customer report page allocation
>> >> failures of order-4 for this allocation. This is a costly order, so it might
>> >> easily fail, as the VM expects such allocation to have a lower-order fallback.
>> >>
>> >> Such trivial fallback is vmalloc(), as the memory doesn't have to be
>> >> physically contiguous. Also the allocation is temporary for the duration of the
>> >> syscall, so it's unlikely to stress vmalloc too much.
>> >
>> > vmalloc() uses a vmap_area_lock spinlock, and TLB flushes.
>> >
>> > So I guess allowing vmalloc() being called from an innocent application
>> > doing a select() might be dangerous, especially if this select() happens
>> > thousands of time per second.
>>
>> Isn't seq_buf_alloc() similarly exposed? And ipc_alloc()?
>
> Possibly.
>
> We don't have a library function (attempting kmalloc(), fallback to
> vmalloc() presumably to avoid abuses, but I guess some patches were
> accepted without thinking about this.

So in the case of select() it seems like the memory we need 6 bits per file 
descriptor, multiplied by the highest possible file descriptor (nfds) as passed 
to the syscall. According to the man page of select:

        EINVAL nfds is negative or exceeds the RLIMIT_NOFILE resource limit (see 
getrlimit(2)).

The code actually seems to silently cap the value instead of returning EINVAL 
though? (IIUC):

        /* max_fds can increase, so grab it once to avoid race */
         rcu_read_lock();
         fdt = files_fdtable(current->files);
         max_fds = fdt->max_fds;
         rcu_read_unlock();
         if (n > max_fds)
                 n = max_fds;

The default for this cap seems to be 1024 where I checked (again, IIUC, it's 
what ulimit -n returns?). I wasn't able to change it to more than 2048, which 
makes the bitmaps still below PAGE_SIZE.

So if I get that right, the system admin would have to allow really large 
RLIMIT_NOFILE to even make vmalloc() possible here. So I don't see it as a large 
concern?

Vlastimil

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From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-man@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] fs/select: add vmalloc fallback for select(2)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 19:55:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a212f313-1f34-7c83-3aab-b45374875493@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1474564068.23058.144.camel@edumazet-glaptop3.roam.corp.google.com>

On 09/22/2016 07:07 PM, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> On Thu, 2016-09-22 at 18:56 +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>> On 09/22/2016 06:49 PM, Eric Dumazet wrote:
>> > On Thu, 2016-09-22 at 18:43 +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>> >> The select(2) syscall performs a kmalloc(size, GFP_KERNEL) where size grows
>> >> with the number of fds passed. We had a customer report page allocation
>> >> failures of order-4 for this allocation. This is a costly order, so it might
>> >> easily fail, as the VM expects such allocation to have a lower-order fallback.
>> >>
>> >> Such trivial fallback is vmalloc(), as the memory doesn't have to be
>> >> physically contiguous. Also the allocation is temporary for the duration of the
>> >> syscall, so it's unlikely to stress vmalloc too much.
>> >
>> > vmalloc() uses a vmap_area_lock spinlock, and TLB flushes.
>> >
>> > So I guess allowing vmalloc() being called from an innocent application
>> > doing a select() might be dangerous, especially if this select() happens
>> > thousands of time per second.
>>
>> Isn't seq_buf_alloc() similarly exposed? And ipc_alloc()?
>
> Possibly.
>
> We don't have a library function (attempting kmalloc(), fallback to
> vmalloc() presumably to avoid abuses, but I guess some patches were
> accepted without thinking about this.

So in the case of select() it seems like the memory we need 6 bits per file 
descriptor, multiplied by the highest possible file descriptor (nfds) as passed 
to the syscall. According to the man page of select:

        EINVAL nfds is negative or exceeds the RLIMIT_NOFILE resource limit (see 
getrlimit(2)).

The code actually seems to silently cap the value instead of returning EINVAL 
though? (IIUC):

        /* max_fds can increase, so grab it once to avoid race */
         rcu_read_lock();
         fdt = files_fdtable(current->files);
         max_fds = fdt->max_fds;
         rcu_read_unlock();
         if (n > max_fds)
                 n = max_fds;

The default for this cap seems to be 1024 where I checked (again, IIUC, it's 
what ulimit -n returns?). I wasn't able to change it to more than 2048, which 
makes the bitmaps still below PAGE_SIZE.

So if I get that right, the system admin would have to allow really large 
RLIMIT_NOFILE to even make vmalloc() possible here. So I don't see it as a large 
concern?

Vlastimil

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-22 17:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-22 16:43 [PATCH v2] fs/select: add vmalloc fallback for select(2) Vlastimil Babka
2016-09-22 16:43 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-09-22 16:49 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-09-22 16:49   ` Eric Dumazet
2016-09-22 16:49   ` Eric Dumazet
2016-09-22 16:56   ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-09-22 16:56     ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-09-22 17:07     ` Eric Dumazet
2016-09-22 17:07       ` Eric Dumazet
2016-09-22 17:07       ` Eric Dumazet
2016-09-22 17:55       ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2016-09-22 17:55         ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-09-23  9:42         ` David Laight
2016-09-23  9:58           ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-09-23  9:58             ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-09-23  9:58             ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-09-23 13:35             ` David Laight
2016-09-26 10:01               ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-09-26 10:01                 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-09-26 15:02                 ` David Laight
2016-09-25 18:50   ` Andi Kleen
2016-09-25 18:50     ` Andi Kleen
2016-09-27  0:01 ` Andrew Morton
2016-09-27  0:01   ` Andrew Morton
2016-09-27  1:38   ` Eric Dumazet
2016-09-27  1:38     ` Eric Dumazet
2016-09-27  1:38     ` Eric Dumazet
2016-09-27  8:13     ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-09-27  8:13       ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-09-27 13:34       ` Eric Dumazet
2016-09-27 13:34         ` Eric Dumazet
2016-09-27 13:34         ` Eric Dumazet
2016-09-27  8:06   ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-09-27  8:06     ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-09-27  8:45 ` [PATCH v3] " Vlastimil Babka
2016-09-27  8:45   ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-09-27 10:22   ` Michal Hocko
2016-09-27 10:22     ` Michal Hocko

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