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From: Felix Kuehling <felix.kuehling@amd.com>
To: Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>
Cc: alex.sierra@amd.com, philip.yang@amd.com,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/35] Add HMM-based SVM memory manager to KFD
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2021 19:06:54 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a419576a-3e03-cf2c-e96e-de5a1d0a8043@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210113164747.GA521755@redhat.com>


Am 2021-01-13 um 11:47 a.m. schrieb Jerome Glisse:
> On Wed, Jan 06, 2021 at 10:00:52PM -0500, Felix Kuehling wrote:
>> This is the first version of our HMM based shared virtual memory manager
>> for KFD. There are still a number of known issues that we're working through
>> (see below). This will likely lead to some pretty significant changes in
>> MMU notifier handling and locking on the migration code paths. So don't
>> get hung up on those details yet.
> [...]
>
>> Known issues:
>> * won't work with IOMMU enabled, we need to dma_map all pages properly
>> * still working on some race conditions and random bugs
>> * performance is not great yet
> What would those changes looks like ? Seeing the issue below i do not
> see how they inter-play with mmu notifier. Can you elaborate.

We currently have some race conditions when multiple threads are causing
migrations concurrently (e.g. CPU page faults, GPU page faults, memory
evictions, and explicit prefetch by the application).

In the current patch series we set up one MMU range notifier for the
entire address space because we had trouble setting up MMU notifiers for
specific address ranges. There are situations where we want to free or
free/resize/reallocate MMU range notifiers, but we can't due to the
locking context we're in:

  * MMU release notifier when a virtual address range is unmapped
  * CPU page fault handler

In both these situations we may need to split virtual address ranges
because we only want to free or migrate a part of it. If we have
per-address range notifiers we also need to free or create notifiers,
which is not possible in those contexts. On the other hand, using a
single range notifier for everything causes unnecessary serialization.

We're reworking all of this to have per-address range notifiers that are
updated with a deferred mechanism in workers. I finally figured out how
to do that in a clean way, hopefully without races or deadlocks, which
should also address the other race conditions we had with concurrent
migration triggers. Philip is working on the implementation.

Regards,
  Felix

>
> Cheers,
> Jérôme
>
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From: Felix Kuehling <felix.kuehling@amd.com>
To: Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>
Cc: alex.sierra@amd.com, philip.yang@amd.com,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/35] Add HMM-based SVM memory manager to KFD
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2021 19:06:54 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a419576a-3e03-cf2c-e96e-de5a1d0a8043@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210113164747.GA521755@redhat.com>


Am 2021-01-13 um 11:47 a.m. schrieb Jerome Glisse:
> On Wed, Jan 06, 2021 at 10:00:52PM -0500, Felix Kuehling wrote:
>> This is the first version of our HMM based shared virtual memory manager
>> for KFD. There are still a number of known issues that we're working through
>> (see below). This will likely lead to some pretty significant changes in
>> MMU notifier handling and locking on the migration code paths. So don't
>> get hung up on those details yet.
> [...]
>
>> Known issues:
>> * won't work with IOMMU enabled, we need to dma_map all pages properly
>> * still working on some race conditions and random bugs
>> * performance is not great yet
> What would those changes looks like ? Seeing the issue below i do not
> see how they inter-play with mmu notifier. Can you elaborate.

We currently have some race conditions when multiple threads are causing
migrations concurrently (e.g. CPU page faults, GPU page faults, memory
evictions, and explicit prefetch by the application).

In the current patch series we set up one MMU range notifier for the
entire address space because we had trouble setting up MMU notifiers for
specific address ranges. There are situations where we want to free or
free/resize/reallocate MMU range notifiers, but we can't due to the
locking context we're in:

  * MMU release notifier when a virtual address range is unmapped
  * CPU page fault handler

In both these situations we may need to split virtual address ranges
because we only want to free or migrate a part of it. If we have
per-address range notifiers we also need to free or create notifiers,
which is not possible in those contexts. On the other hand, using a
single range notifier for everything causes unnecessary serialization.

We're reworking all of this to have per-address range notifiers that are
updated with a deferred mechanism in workers. I finally figured out how
to do that in a clean way, hopefully without races or deadlocks, which
should also address the other race conditions we had with concurrent
migration triggers. Philip is working on the implementation.

Regards,
  Felix

>
> Cheers,
> Jérôme
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-14  0:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 168+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-07  3:00 [PATCH 00/35] Add HMM-based SVM memory manager to KFD Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:00 ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:00 ` [PATCH 01/35] drm/amdkfd: select kernel DEVICE_PRIVATE option Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:00   ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:00 ` [PATCH 02/35] drm/amdgpu: replace per_device_list by array Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:00   ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:00 ` [PATCH 03/35] drm/amdkfd: helper to convert gpu id and idx Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:00   ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:00 ` [PATCH 04/35] drm/amdkfd: add svm ioctl API Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:00   ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:00 ` [PATCH 05/35] drm/amdkfd: Add SVM API support capability bits Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:00   ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:00 ` [PATCH 06/35] drm/amdkfd: register svm range Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:00   ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:00 ` [PATCH 07/35] drm/amdkfd: add svm ioctl GET_ATTR op Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:00   ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01 ` [PATCH 08/35] drm/amdgpu: add common HMM get pages function Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01   ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07 10:53   ` Christian König
2021-01-07 10:53     ` Christian König
2021-01-07  3:01 ` [PATCH 09/35] drm/amdkfd: validate svm range system memory Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01   ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01 ` [PATCH 10/35] drm/amdkfd: register overlap system memory range Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01   ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01 ` [PATCH 11/35] drm/amdkfd: deregister svm range Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01   ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01 ` [PATCH 12/35] drm/amdgpu: export vm update mapping interface Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01   ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07 10:54   ` Christian König
2021-01-07 10:54     ` Christian König
2021-01-07  3:01 ` [PATCH 13/35] drm/amdkfd: map svm range to GPUs Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01   ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01 ` [PATCH 14/35] drm/amdkfd: svm range eviction and restore Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01   ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01 ` [PATCH 15/35] drm/amdkfd: add xnack enabled flag to kfd_process Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01   ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01 ` [PATCH 16/35] drm/amdkfd: add ioctl to configure and query xnack retries Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01   ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01 ` [PATCH 17/35] drm/amdkfd: register HMM device private zone Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01   ` Felix Kuehling
2021-03-01  8:32   ` Daniel Vetter
2021-03-01  8:32     ` Daniel Vetter
2021-03-01  8:46     ` Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2021-03-01  8:46       ` Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2021-03-01  8:58       ` Daniel Vetter
2021-03-01  8:58         ` Daniel Vetter
2021-03-01  9:30         ` Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2021-03-01  9:30           ` Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2021-03-04 17:58       ` Felix Kuehling
2021-03-04 17:58         ` Felix Kuehling
2021-03-11 12:24         ` Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2021-03-11 12:24           ` Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2021-01-07  3:01 ` [PATCH 18/35] drm/amdkfd: validate vram svm range from TTM Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01   ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01 ` [PATCH 19/35] drm/amdkfd: support xgmi same hive mapping Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01   ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01 ` [PATCH 20/35] drm/amdkfd: copy memory through gart table Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01   ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01 ` [PATCH 21/35] drm/amdkfd: HMM migrate ram to vram Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01   ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01 ` [PATCH 22/35] drm/amdkfd: HMM migrate vram to ram Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01   ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01 ` [PATCH 23/35] drm/amdkfd: invalidate tables on page retry fault Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01   ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01 ` [PATCH 24/35] drm/amdkfd: page table restore through svm API Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01   ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01 ` [PATCH 25/35] drm/amdkfd: SVM API call to restore page tables Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01   ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01 ` [PATCH 26/35] drm/amdkfd: add svm_bo reference for eviction fence Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01   ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01 ` [PATCH 27/35] drm/amdgpu: add param bit flag to create SVM BOs Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01   ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01 ` [PATCH 28/35] drm/amdkfd: add svm_bo eviction mechanism support Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01   ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01 ` [PATCH 29/35] drm/amdgpu: svm bo enable_signal call condition Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01   ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07 10:56   ` Christian König
2021-01-07 10:56     ` Christian König
2021-01-07 16:16     ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07 16:16       ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07 16:28       ` Christian König
2021-01-07 16:28         ` Christian König
2021-01-07 16:53         ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07 16:53           ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01 ` [PATCH 30/35] drm/amdgpu: add svm_bo eviction to enable_signal cb Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01   ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01 ` [PATCH 31/35] drm/amdgpu: reserve fence slot to update page table Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01   ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07 10:57   ` Christian König
2021-01-07 10:57     ` Christian König
2021-01-07  3:01 ` [PATCH 32/35] drm/amdgpu: enable retry fault wptr overflow Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01   ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07 11:01   ` Christian König
2021-01-07 11:01     ` Christian König
2021-01-07  3:01 ` [PATCH 33/35] drm/amdkfd: refine migration policy with xnack on Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01   ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01 ` [PATCH 34/35] drm/amdkfd: add svm range validate timestamp Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01   ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01 ` [PATCH 35/35] drm/amdkfd: multiple gpu migrate vram to vram Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  3:01   ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07  9:23 ` [PATCH 00/35] Add HMM-based SVM memory manager to KFD Daniel Vetter
2021-01-07  9:23   ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-07 16:25   ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-07 16:25     ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-08 14:40     ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-08 14:40       ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-08 14:45       ` Christian König
2021-01-08 14:45         ` Christian König
2021-01-08 15:58       ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-08 15:58         ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-08 16:06         ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-08 16:06           ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-08 16:36           ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-08 16:36             ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-08 16:53             ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-08 16:53               ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-08 17:56               ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-08 17:56                 ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-11 16:29                 ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-11 16:29                   ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-14  5:34                   ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-14  5:34                     ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-14 12:19                     ` Christian König
2021-01-14 12:19                       ` Christian König
2021-01-13 16:56       ` Jerome Glisse
2021-01-13 16:56         ` Jerome Glisse
2021-01-13 20:31         ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-13 20:31           ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-14  3:27           ` Jerome Glisse
2021-01-14  3:27             ` Jerome Glisse
2021-01-14  9:26             ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-14  9:26               ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-14 10:39               ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-14 10:39                 ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-14 10:49         ` Christian König
2021-01-14 10:49           ` Christian König
2021-01-14 11:52           ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-14 11:52             ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-14 13:37             ` HMM fence (was Re: [PATCH 00/35] Add HMM-based SVM memory manager to KFD) Christian König
2021-01-14 13:37               ` Christian König
2021-01-14 13:57               ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-14 13:57                 ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-14 14:13                 ` Christian König
2021-01-14 14:13                   ` Christian König
2021-01-14 14:23                   ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-14 14:23                     ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-14 15:08                     ` Christian König
2021-01-14 15:08                       ` Christian König
2021-01-14 15:40                       ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-14 15:40                         ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-14 16:01                         ` Christian König
2021-01-14 16:01                           ` Christian König
2021-01-14 16:36                           ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-14 16:36                             ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-14 19:08                             ` Christian König
2021-01-14 19:08                               ` Christian König
2021-01-14 20:09                               ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-14 20:09                                 ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-14 16:51               ` Jerome Glisse
2021-01-14 16:51                 ` Jerome Glisse
2021-01-14 21:13                 ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-14 21:13                   ` Felix Kuehling
2021-01-15  7:47                   ` Christian König
2021-01-15  7:47                     ` Christian König
2021-01-13 16:47 ` [PATCH 00/35] Add HMM-based SVM memory manager to KFD Jerome Glisse
2021-01-13 16:47   ` Jerome Glisse
2021-01-14  0:06   ` Felix Kuehling [this message]
2021-01-14  0:06     ` Felix Kuehling

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