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From: Kevin Groeneveld <kgroeneveld@lenbrook.com>
To: haibo.chen@nxp.com, adrian.hunter@intel.com,
	ulf.hansson@linaro.org, shawnguo@kernel.org, robh+dt@kernel.org,
	s.hauer@pengutronix.de
Cc: kernel@pengutronix.de, festevam@gmail.com,
	linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org, linux-imx@nxp.com,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/6] mmc: host: sdhci-esdhc-imx.c: disable auto-tuning when necessary
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2022 09:59:30 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a429ea6c-f2d9-ddc8-15b8-23309b3a5051@lenbrook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1629285415-7495-4-git-send-email-haibo.chen@nxp.com>

Thank you Haibo for pointing me here from 
https://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-mmc/msg73270.html.

On 2021-08-18 07:16, haibo.chen@nxp.com wrote:
> Add a method to enable/disable auto-tuning function. auto-tuning function
> is conflict with sdio interrupt. For sdio device with sdio interrupt,
> need to disable auto-tuning function.

I tested this patch on an imx8mm system and it made things completely 
unstable. I was never really able to log into the system properly and 
just got lots of messages similar to the following:

[   31.946640] rcu: INFO: rcu_preempt self-detected stall on CPU
[   31.952422] rcu:     0-....: (2106 ticks this GP) 
idle=849/1/0x4000000000000000 softirq=902/904 fqs=743
[   31.961663]  (t=2100 jiffies g=33 q=1158)
[   31.965682] Task dump for CPU 0:
[   31.968915] task:kworker/0:1     state:R  running task     stack: 
0 pid:   33 ppid:     2 flags:0x0000000a
[   31.978859] Workqueue:  0x0 (pm)

While working on this I also came across 
https://community.nxp.com/t5/i-MX-Processors-Knowledge-Base/uSDHC-auto-tuning-and-possible-SDIO-failures/ta-p/1352855 
which seems to address the same issue as your proposed patch.

That article suggests only enabling auto tuning for one data line as a 
workaround. I tried this method and so far it seems to have addressed 
the -84 errors I was seeing with SDIO communication to a WiFi module.

Some thoughts / questions:

Why does this proposed patch make my system unstable? (I was testing 
with a v5.16 mainline based kernel, but I did not see anything in later 
versions of sdhci-esdhc-imx that seemed like this should be a problem.)

Why does this patch try to disable auto tune entirely vs just setting it 
up for one data bit as suggested in the NXP knowledge base article?

As some other have suggested it seems like it would be nicer if the 
workaround could be applied automatically if the device using the SDIO 
interface enabled IRQs. Having to include a non standard entry in the DT 
for a hardware bug you may not know about or understand seems error 
prone. I guess maybe some device could generate an IRQ before they 
actually enable IRQs? In that case maybe a DT entry is required, but 
maybe the driver could generate a warning if IRQs are enabled without 
the DT entry?


Thanks,
Kevin

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Kevin Groeneveld <kgroeneveld@lenbrook.com>
To: haibo.chen@nxp.com, adrian.hunter@intel.com,
	ulf.hansson@linaro.org, shawnguo@kernel.org, robh+dt@kernel.org,
	s.hauer@pengutronix.de
Cc: kernel@pengutronix.de, festevam@gmail.com,
	linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org, linux-imx@nxp.com,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/6] mmc: host: sdhci-esdhc-imx.c: disable auto-tuning when necessary
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2022 09:59:30 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a429ea6c-f2d9-ddc8-15b8-23309b3a5051@lenbrook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1629285415-7495-4-git-send-email-haibo.chen@nxp.com>

Thank you Haibo for pointing me here from 
https://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-mmc/msg73270.html.

On 2021-08-18 07:16, haibo.chen@nxp.com wrote:
> Add a method to enable/disable auto-tuning function. auto-tuning function
> is conflict with sdio interrupt. For sdio device with sdio interrupt,
> need to disable auto-tuning function.

I tested this patch on an imx8mm system and it made things completely 
unstable. I was never really able to log into the system properly and 
just got lots of messages similar to the following:

[   31.946640] rcu: INFO: rcu_preempt self-detected stall on CPU
[   31.952422] rcu:     0-....: (2106 ticks this GP) 
idle=849/1/0x4000000000000000 softirq=902/904 fqs=743
[   31.961663]  (t=2100 jiffies g=33 q=1158)
[   31.965682] Task dump for CPU 0:
[   31.968915] task:kworker/0:1     state:R  running task     stack: 
0 pid:   33 ppid:     2 flags:0x0000000a
[   31.978859] Workqueue:  0x0 (pm)

While working on this I also came across 
https://community.nxp.com/t5/i-MX-Processors-Knowledge-Base/uSDHC-auto-tuning-and-possible-SDIO-failures/ta-p/1352855 
which seems to address the same issue as your proposed patch.

That article suggests only enabling auto tuning for one data line as a 
workaround. I tried this method and so far it seems to have addressed 
the -84 errors I was seeing with SDIO communication to a WiFi module.

Some thoughts / questions:

Why does this proposed patch make my system unstable? (I was testing 
with a v5.16 mainline based kernel, but I did not see anything in later 
versions of sdhci-esdhc-imx that seemed like this should be a problem.)

Why does this patch try to disable auto tune entirely vs just setting it 
up for one data bit as suggested in the NXP knowledge base article?

As some other have suggested it seems like it would be nicer if the 
workaround could be applied automatically if the device using the SDIO 
interface enabled IRQs. Having to include a non standard entry in the DT 
for a hardware bug you may not know about or understand seems error 
prone. I guess maybe some device could generate an IRQ before they 
actually enable IRQs? In that case maybe a DT entry is required, but 
maybe the driver could generate a warning if IRQs are enabled without 
the DT entry?


Thanks,
Kevin

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-05 15:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-18 11:16 [PATCH v2 1/6] mmc: sdhci-esdhc-imx: remove redundant code for manual tuning haibo.chen
2021-08-18 11:16 ` haibo.chen
2021-08-18 11:16 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] mmc: sdhci-eadhc-imx: select the correct mode for auto tuning haibo.chen
2021-08-18 11:16   ` haibo.chen
2021-08-18 11:16 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] dt-bindings: mmc: fsl-imx-esdhc: add fsl,broken-auto-tuning binding haibo.chen
2021-08-18 11:16   ` [PATCH v2 3/6] dt-bindings: mmc: fsl-imx-esdhc: add fsl, broken-auto-tuning binding haibo.chen
2021-08-18 18:48   ` [PATCH v2 3/6] dt-bindings: mmc: fsl-imx-esdhc: add fsl,broken-auto-tuning binding Rob Herring
2021-08-18 18:48     ` Rob Herring
2021-08-19 14:11   ` [PATCH v2 3/6] dt-bindings: mmc: fsl-imx-esdhc: add fsl, broken-auto-tuning binding Lucas Stach
2021-08-19 14:11     ` Lucas Stach
2021-08-18 11:16 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] mmc: host: sdhci-esdhc-imx.c: disable auto-tuning when necessary haibo.chen
2021-08-18 11:16   ` haibo.chen
2022-12-05 14:59   ` Kevin Groeneveld [this message]
2022-12-05 14:59     ` Kevin Groeneveld
2022-12-09  8:43     ` Bough Chen
2022-12-09  8:43       ` Bough Chen
2021-08-18 11:16 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] arm64: dts: imx8mm-evk: add sdio wifi support haibo.chen
2021-08-18 11:16   ` haibo.chen
2021-08-18 11:16 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] arm64: dts: imx8mn-evk: " haibo.chen
2021-08-18 11:16   ` haibo.chen

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