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From: Xiaoyao Li <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>
To: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	isaku.yamahata@gmail.com, Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	alistair@alistair23.me, ehabkost@redhat.com,
	marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com, mst@redhat.com, cohuck@redhat.com,
	mtosatti@redhat.com, seanjc@google.com, erdemaktas@google.com,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, isaku.yamahata@intel.com,
	"Min M . Xu" <min.m.xu@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 20/44] i386/tdx: Parse tdx metadata and store the result into TdxGuestState
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2022 21:08:28 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a97a75ad-9d1c-a09f-281b-d6b0a7652e78@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210826111838.fgbp6v6gd5wzbnho@sirius.home.kraxel.org>

On 8/26/2021 7:18 PM, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
>> +int load_tdvf(const char *filename)
>> +{
> 
>> +    for_each_fw_entry(fw, entry) {
>> +        if (entry->address < x86ms->below_4g_mem_size ||
>> +            entry->address > 4 * GiB) {
>> +            tdvf_init_ram_memory(ms, entry);
>> +        } else {
>> +            tdvf_init_bios_memory(fd, filename, entry);
>> +        }
>> +    }
> 
> Why there are two different ways to load the firmware?

because there are two different parts in TDVF:
  a) one is firmware volume (BFV and CFV, i.e., OVMF_CODE.fd and 
OVMF_VAR.fd). Those are ROMs;

  b) the other is some RAM regions, e.g., temp memory for BFV early 
running and TD HOB to pass info to TDVF; Those are RAMs which is already 
added to TDX VM;

> Also: why is all this firmware volume parsing needed?  The normal ovmf
> firmware can simply be mapped just below 4G, why can't tdvf work the
> same way?

Ideally, the firmware (part a above) can be mapped just below 4G like 
what we do for OVMF.

But it needs additional when map part a) to parse the metadata and get 
location of part b) and initialize the RAM of part b). Yes, the 
additional work can be added in existing OVMF laoding flow as pflash.


+ Laszlo,

Regarding laoding TDVF as pflash, I have some questions:

- pflash requires KVM to support readonly mmeory. However, for TDX, it 
doesn't support readonly memory. Is it a must? or we can make an 
exception for TDX?

- I saw from 
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-discuss/2018-04/msg00045.html, 
you said when load OVMF as pflash, it's MMIO. But for TDVF, it's treated 
as private memory. I'm not sure whether it will cause some potential 
problem if loading TDVF with pflash.

Anyway I tried changing the existing pflash approach to load TDVF. It 
can boot a TDX VM and no issue.

> thanks,
>    Gerd
> 


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From: Xiaoyao Li <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>
To: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	isaku.yamahata@gmail.com, Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
Cc: isaku.yamahata@intel.com, cohuck@redhat.com, ehabkost@redhat.com,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, mst@redhat.com, seanjc@google.com,
	alistair@alistair23.me, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	mtosatti@redhat.com, "Min M . Xu" <min.m.xu@intel.com>,
	erdemaktas@google.com, pbonzini@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 20/44] i386/tdx: Parse tdx metadata and store the result into TdxGuestState
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2022 21:08:28 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a97a75ad-9d1c-a09f-281b-d6b0a7652e78@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210826111838.fgbp6v6gd5wzbnho@sirius.home.kraxel.org>

On 8/26/2021 7:18 PM, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
>> +int load_tdvf(const char *filename)
>> +{
> 
>> +    for_each_fw_entry(fw, entry) {
>> +        if (entry->address < x86ms->below_4g_mem_size ||
>> +            entry->address > 4 * GiB) {
>> +            tdvf_init_ram_memory(ms, entry);
>> +        } else {
>> +            tdvf_init_bios_memory(fd, filename, entry);
>> +        }
>> +    }
> 
> Why there are two different ways to load the firmware?

because there are two different parts in TDVF:
  a) one is firmware volume (BFV and CFV, i.e., OVMF_CODE.fd and 
OVMF_VAR.fd). Those are ROMs;

  b) the other is some RAM regions, e.g., temp memory for BFV early 
running and TD HOB to pass info to TDVF; Those are RAMs which is already 
added to TDX VM;

> Also: why is all this firmware volume parsing needed?  The normal ovmf
> firmware can simply be mapped just below 4G, why can't tdvf work the
> same way?

Ideally, the firmware (part a above) can be mapped just below 4G like 
what we do for OVMF.

But it needs additional when map part a) to parse the metadata and get 
location of part b) and initialize the RAM of part b). Yes, the 
additional work can be added in existing OVMF laoding flow as pflash.


+ Laszlo,

Regarding laoding TDVF as pflash, I have some questions:

- pflash requires KVM to support readonly mmeory. However, for TDX, it 
doesn't support readonly memory. Is it a must? or we can make an 
exception for TDX?

- I saw from 
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-discuss/2018-04/msg00045.html, 
you said when load OVMF as pflash, it's MMIO. But for TDVF, it's treated 
as private memory. I'm not sure whether it will cause some potential 
problem if loading TDVF with pflash.

Anyway I tried changing the existing pflash approach to load TDVF. It 
can boot a TDX VM and no issue.

> thanks,
>    Gerd
> 



  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-04 13:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 173+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-08  0:54 [RFC PATCH v2 00/44] TDX support isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:54 ` isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/44] target/i386: Expose x86_cpu_get_supported_feature_word() for TDX isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:54   ` isaku.yamahata
2021-07-22 17:52   ` Connor Kuehl
2021-07-22 17:52     ` Connor Kuehl
2021-07-08  0:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/44] kvm: Switch KVM_CAP_READONLY_MEM to a per-VM ioctl() isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:54   ` isaku.yamahata
2021-07-22 17:52   ` Connor Kuehl
2021-07-08  0:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/44] i386/kvm: Move architectural CPUID leaf generation to separarte helper isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:54   ` isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/44] vl: Introduce machine_init_done_late notifier isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:54   ` isaku.yamahata
2021-07-22 17:52   ` Connor Kuehl
2021-08-26 10:13   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-08-26 10:13     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-07-08  0:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/44] linux-headers: Update headers to pull in TDX API changes isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:54   ` isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/44] hw/i386: Introduce kvm-type for TDX guest isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:54   ` isaku.yamahata
2021-07-22 17:53   ` Connor Kuehl
2021-07-22 17:53     ` Connor Kuehl
2021-08-26 10:22   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-08-26 10:22     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-11-24  7:31     ` Xiaoyao Li
2021-11-24  7:31       ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-01-10 11:18       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-01-10 11:18         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-01-10 12:01         ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-01-10 12:01           ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-01-10 12:05           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-01-10 12:05             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-07-08  0:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/44] i386/kvm: Squash getting/putting guest state for TDX VMs isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:54   ` isaku.yamahata
2021-08-26 10:24   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-08-26 10:24     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-12-09  3:33     ` Xiaoyao Li
2021-12-09  3:33       ` Xiaoyao Li
2021-07-08  0:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/44] i386/kvm: Skip KVM_X86_SETUP_MCE for TDX guests isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:54   ` isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/44] target/i386: kvm: don't synchronize guest tsc for TD guest isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:54   ` isaku.yamahata
2021-07-22 17:53   ` Connor Kuehl
2021-07-08  0:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/44] hw/i386: Initialize TDX via KVM ioctl() when kvm_type is TDX isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:54   ` isaku.yamahata
2021-08-26 10:27   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-08-26 10:27     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-08-26 15:06   ` Eric Blake
2021-08-26 15:06     ` Eric Blake
2021-07-08  0:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/44] i386/tdx: Implement user specified tsc frequency isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:54   ` isaku.yamahata
2021-07-22 17:53   ` Connor Kuehl
2021-12-02  8:56     ` Xiaoyao Li
2021-07-08  0:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 12/44] target/i386/tdx: Finalize the TD's measurement when machine is done isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:54   ` isaku.yamahata
2021-07-22 17:53   ` Connor Kuehl
2021-07-08  0:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 13/44] i386/tdx: Frame in tdx_get_supported_cpuid with KVM_TDX_CAPABILITIES isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:54   ` isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 14/44] i386/tdx: Frame in the call for KVM_TDX_INIT_VCPU isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:54   ` isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 15/44] i386/tdx: Add hook to require generic device loader isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:54   ` isaku.yamahata
2021-08-26 10:41   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-08-26 10:41     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-07-08  0:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 16/44] hw/i386: Add definitions from UEFI spec for volumes, resources, etc isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:54   ` isaku.yamahata
2021-08-26 10:46   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-08-26 10:46     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-07-08  0:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 17/44] i386/tdx: Add definitions for TDVF metadata isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:54   ` isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 18/44] hw/i386: refactor e820_add_entry() isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:54   ` isaku.yamahata
2021-08-26 10:49   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-08-26 10:49     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-07-08  0:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 19/44] hw/i386/e820: introduce a helper function to change type of e820 isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:54   ` isaku.yamahata
2021-08-26 11:22   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-08-26 11:22     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-07-08  0:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 20/44] i386/tdx: Parse tdx metadata and store the result into TdxGuestState isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:54   ` isaku.yamahata
2021-08-26 11:18   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-08-26 11:18     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-01-04 13:08     ` Xiaoyao Li [this message]
2022-01-04 13:08       ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-01-06 16:06       ` Laszlo Ersek
2022-01-06 16:06         ` Laszlo Ersek
2022-01-07  7:05         ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-01-07  7:05           ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-01-10 11:01           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-01-10 11:01             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-01-10 12:09             ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-01-10 12:09               ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-01-11  8:19               ` Laszlo Ersek
2022-01-11  8:19                 ` Laszlo Ersek
2022-01-11  8:48                 ` Laszlo Ersek
2022-01-24  6:22             ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-01-24  6:22               ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-01-25  7:42               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-01-25  7:42                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-01-25  8:22                 ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-01-25  8:22                   ` Xiaoyao Li
2021-07-08  0:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 21/44] i386/tdx: Create the TD HOB list upon machine init done isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:54   ` isaku.yamahata
2021-08-26 11:29   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-08-26 11:29     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-07-08  0:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 22/44] i386/tdx: Add TDVF memory via INIT_MEM_REGION isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:54   ` isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 23/44] i386/tdx: Use KVM_TDX_INIT_VCPU to pass HOB to TDVF isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:54   ` isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 24/44] i386/tdx: Add MMIO HOB entries isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:54   ` isaku.yamahata
2021-08-26 12:17   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-08-26 12:17     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-07-08  0:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 25/44] q35: Move PCIe BAR check above PAM check in mch_write_config() isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:54   ` isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 26/44] pci-host/q35: Move PAM initialization above SMRAM initialization isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:54   ` isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 27/44] q35: Introduce smm_ranges property for q35-pci-host isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:54   ` isaku.yamahata
2021-08-26 11:38   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-08-26 11:38     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-07-08  0:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 28/44] i386/tdx: Force x2apic mode and routing for TDs isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:54   ` isaku.yamahata
2021-08-26 11:42   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-08-26 11:42     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-07-08  0:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 29/44] target/i386: Add machine option to disable PIC/8259 isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:54   ` isaku.yamahata
2021-08-26 11:50   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-08-26 11:50     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-07-08  0:55 ` [RFC PATCH v2 30/44] qom: implement property helper for sha384 isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:55   ` isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:55 ` [RFC PATCH v2 31/44] target/i386/tdx: Allows mrconfigid/mrowner/mrownerconfig for TDX_INIT_VM isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:55   ` isaku.yamahata
2021-08-26 15:13   ` Eric Blake
2021-08-26 15:13     ` Eric Blake
2021-07-08  0:55 ` [RFC PATCH v2 32/44] tdx: add kvm_tdx_enabled() accessor for later use isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:55   ` isaku.yamahata
2021-07-22 17:53   ` Connor Kuehl
2021-12-09 14:31     ` Xiaoyao Li
2021-07-08  0:55 ` [RFC PATCH v2 33/44] qmp: add query-tdx-capabilities query-tdx command isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:55   ` isaku.yamahata
2021-08-26 11:59   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-08-26 11:59     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-08-26 15:21   ` Eric Blake
2021-08-26 15:21     ` Eric Blake
2021-07-08  0:55 ` [RFC PATCH v2 34/44] target/i386/tdx: set reboot action to shutdown when tdx isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:55   ` isaku.yamahata
2021-07-22 17:54   ` Connor Kuehl
2021-12-10  9:54     ` Xiaoyao Li
2021-08-26 12:01   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-08-26 12:01     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-07-08  0:55 ` [RFC PATCH v2 35/44] ioapic: add property to disable level interrupt isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:55   ` isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:55 ` [RFC PATCH v2 36/44] hw/i386: add eoi_intercept_unsupported member to X86MachineState isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:55   ` isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:55 ` [RFC PATCH v2 37/44] hw/i386: add option to forcibly report edge trigger in acpi tables isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:55   ` isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:55 ` [RFC PATCH v2 38/44] hw/i386: plug eoi_intercept_unsupported to ioapic isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:55   ` isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:55 ` [RFC PATCH v2 39/44] ioapic: add property to disallow SMI delivery mode isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:55   ` isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:55 ` [RFC PATCH v2 40/44] hw/i386: add a flag to disallow SMI isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:55   ` isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:55 ` [RFC PATCH v2 41/44] ioapic: add property to disallow INIT/SIPI delivery mode isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:55   ` isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:55 ` [RFC PATCH v2 42/44] hw/i386: add a flag to disable init/sipi delivery mode of interrupt isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:55   ` isaku.yamahata
2021-08-26 12:15   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-08-26 12:15     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-07-08  0:55 ` [RFC PATCH v2 43/44] i386/tdx: disallow level interrupt and SMI/INIT/SIPI delivery mode isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:55   ` isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:55 ` [RFC PATCH v2 44/44] i386/tdx: disable S3/S4 unconditionally isaku.yamahata
2021-07-08  0:55   ` isaku.yamahata

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