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From: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
To: Daniel Stone <daniel@fooishbar.org>
Cc: Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	intel-gfx <intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Jason Ekstrand <jason@jlekstrand.net>
Subject: Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 5/7] dma-buf: Add an API for exporting sync files (v11)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2021 15:23:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a9de44fc-aa7c-60d7-d7ed-2229d41fb306@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPj87rPdMthO2Wv7QxMGnO__BiZVauMa9HaRk+35Sgvm69QSjw@mail.gmail.com>



Am 26.05.21 um 15:12 schrieb Daniel Stone:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, 26 May 2021 at 13:46, Christian König <christian.koenig@amd.com> wrote:
>> Am 26.05.21 um 13:31 schrieb Daniel Stone:
>>> How would we insert a syncobj+val into a resv though? Like, if we pass
>>> an unmaterialised syncobj+val here to insert into the resv, then an
>>> implicit-only media user (or KMS) goes to sync against the resv, what
>>> happens?
>> Well this is for exporting, not importing. So we don't need to worry
>> about that.
>>
>> It's just my thinking because the drm_syncobj is the backing object on
>> VkSemaphore implementations these days, isn't it?
> Yeah, I can see that to an extent. But then binary vs. timeline
> syncobjs are very different in use (which is unfortunate tbh), and
> then we have an asymmetry between syncobj export & sync_file import.
>
> You're right that we do want a syncobj though. This is probably not
> practical due to smashing uAPI to bits, but if we could wind the clock
> back a couple of years, I suspect the interface we want is that export
> can either export a sync_file or a binary syncobj, and further that
> binary syncobjs could transparently act as timeline semaphores by
> mapping any value (either wait or signal) to the binary signal. In
> hindsight, we should probably just never have had binary syncobj. Oh
> well.

Well the later is the case IIRC. Don't ask me for the detail semantics, 
but in general the drm_syncobj in timeline mode is compatible to the 
binary mode.

The sync_file is also import/exportable to a certain drm_syncobj 
timeline point (or as binary signal). So no big deal, we are all 
compatible here :)

I just thought that it might be more appropriate to return a drm_syncobj 
directly instead of a sync_file.

Regards,
Christian.

>
> Cheers,
> Daniel


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From: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
To: Daniel Stone <daniel@fooishbar.org>
Cc: Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	intel-gfx <intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Simon Ser <contact@emersion.fr>,
	Sumit Semwal <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 5/7] dma-buf: Add an API for exporting sync files (v11)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2021 15:23:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a9de44fc-aa7c-60d7-d7ed-2229d41fb306@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPj87rPdMthO2Wv7QxMGnO__BiZVauMa9HaRk+35Sgvm69QSjw@mail.gmail.com>



Am 26.05.21 um 15:12 schrieb Daniel Stone:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, 26 May 2021 at 13:46, Christian König <christian.koenig@amd.com> wrote:
>> Am 26.05.21 um 13:31 schrieb Daniel Stone:
>>> How would we insert a syncobj+val into a resv though? Like, if we pass
>>> an unmaterialised syncobj+val here to insert into the resv, then an
>>> implicit-only media user (or KMS) goes to sync against the resv, what
>>> happens?
>> Well this is for exporting, not importing. So we don't need to worry
>> about that.
>>
>> It's just my thinking because the drm_syncobj is the backing object on
>> VkSemaphore implementations these days, isn't it?
> Yeah, I can see that to an extent. But then binary vs. timeline
> syncobjs are very different in use (which is unfortunate tbh), and
> then we have an asymmetry between syncobj export & sync_file import.
>
> You're right that we do want a syncobj though. This is probably not
> practical due to smashing uAPI to bits, but if we could wind the clock
> back a couple of years, I suspect the interface we want is that export
> can either export a sync_file or a binary syncobj, and further that
> binary syncobjs could transparently act as timeline semaphores by
> mapping any value (either wait or signal) to the binary signal. In
> hindsight, we should probably just never have had binary syncobj. Oh
> well.

Well the later is the case IIRC. Don't ask me for the detail semantics, 
but in general the drm_syncobj in timeline mode is compatible to the 
binary mode.

The sync_file is also import/exportable to a certain drm_syncobj 
timeline point (or as binary signal). So no big deal, we are all 
compatible here :)

I just thought that it might be more appropriate to return a drm_syncobj 
directly instead of a sync_file.

Regards,
Christian.

>
> Cheers,
> Daniel

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-26 13:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-25 21:17 [PATCH 0/7] dma-buf: Add an API for exporting sync files (v11) Jason Ekstrand
2021-05-25 21:17 ` [Intel-gfx] " Jason Ekstrand
2021-05-25 21:17 ` [PATCH 1/7] dma-buf: Add dma_fence_array_for_each (v2) Jason Ekstrand
2021-05-25 21:17   ` [Intel-gfx] " Jason Ekstrand
2021-05-25 21:17 ` [PATCH 2/7] dma-buf: Rename dma_resv helpers from _rcu to _unlocked (v2) Jason Ekstrand
2021-05-25 21:17   ` [Intel-gfx] " Jason Ekstrand
2021-05-26 10:57   ` Christian König
2021-05-26 10:57     ` [Intel-gfx] " Christian König
2021-05-27 10:39     ` Daniel Vetter
2021-05-27 10:39       ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2021-05-27 11:58       ` Christian König
2021-05-27 11:58         ` [Intel-gfx] " Christian König
2021-05-27 13:21         ` Daniel Vetter
2021-05-27 13:21           ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2021-05-27 13:25         ` Daniel Vetter
2021-05-27 13:25           ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2021-05-27 13:41           ` Christian König
2021-05-27 13:41             ` [Intel-gfx] " Christian König
2021-06-01 14:34             ` Daniel Vetter
2021-06-01 14:34               ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2021-06-01 17:27               ` Christian König
2021-06-01 17:27                 ` [Intel-gfx] " Christian König
2021-06-01 17:29               ` Christian König
2021-06-01 17:29                 ` [Intel-gfx] " Christian König
2021-05-25 21:17 ` [PATCH 3/7] dma-buf: Add dma_resv_get_singleton_unlocked (v5) Jason Ekstrand
2021-05-25 21:17   ` [Intel-gfx] " Jason Ekstrand
2021-05-25 21:17 ` [PATCH 4/7] dma-buf: Document DMA_BUF_IOCTL_SYNC Jason Ekstrand
2021-05-25 21:17   ` [Intel-gfx] " Jason Ekstrand
2021-05-27 10:38   ` Daniel Vetter
2021-05-27 10:38     ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2021-05-27 11:12     ` Sumit Semwal
2021-05-27 11:12       ` [Intel-gfx] " Sumit Semwal
2021-06-10 20:57     ` Jason Ekstrand
2021-06-10 20:57       ` [Intel-gfx] " Jason Ekstrand
2021-05-25 21:17 ` [PATCH 5/7] dma-buf: Add an API for exporting sync files (v11) Jason Ekstrand
2021-05-25 21:17   ` [Intel-gfx] " Jason Ekstrand
2021-05-26 11:02   ` Christian König
2021-05-26 11:02     ` [Intel-gfx] " Christian König
2021-05-26 11:31     ` Daniel Stone
2021-05-26 11:31       ` Daniel Stone
2021-05-26 12:46       ` Christian König
2021-05-26 12:46         ` Christian König
2021-05-26 13:12         ` Daniel Stone
2021-05-26 13:12           ` Daniel Stone
2021-05-26 13:23           ` Christian König [this message]
2021-05-26 13:23             ` Christian König
2021-05-27 10:33             ` Daniel Vetter
2021-05-27 10:33               ` Daniel Vetter
2021-05-27 10:48               ` Simon Ser
2021-05-27 10:48                 ` Simon Ser
2021-05-27 12:01               ` Christian König
2021-05-27 12:01                 ` Christian König
     [not found]             ` <CAOFGe95Zdn8P3=sOT0HkE9_+ac70g36LxpmLOyR2bKTTeS-xvQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]               ` <fef50d81-399a-af09-1d13-de4db1b3fab8@amd.com>
2021-05-27 15:39                 ` Jason Ekstrand
2021-05-27 15:39                   ` Jason Ekstrand
2021-05-25 21:17 ` [PATCH 6/7] RFC: dma-buf: Add an extra fence to dma_resv_get_singleton_unlocked Jason Ekstrand
2021-05-25 21:17   ` [Intel-gfx] " Jason Ekstrand
2021-05-25 21:17 ` [PATCH 7/7] RFC: dma-buf: Add an API for importing sync files (v7) Jason Ekstrand
2021-05-25 21:17   ` [Intel-gfx] " Jason Ekstrand
2021-05-26 17:09   ` Daniel Vetter
2021-05-26 17:09     ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2021-05-25 21:44 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.CHECKPATCH: warning for dma-buf: Add an API for exporting sync files (v11) Patchwork
2021-05-25 21:46 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.SPARSE: " Patchwork
2021-05-25 22:14 ` [Intel-gfx] ✓ Fi.CI.BAT: success " Patchwork
2021-05-26  4:20 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.IGT: failure " Patchwork
2021-06-10 20:10 ` [PATCH 0/7] " Chia-I Wu
2021-06-10 20:10   ` [Intel-gfx] " Chia-I Wu
2021-06-10 20:26   ` Jason Ekstrand
2021-06-10 20:26     ` [Intel-gfx] " Jason Ekstrand

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