* [PATCH] proc(5): clarify the root symlink and mount namespaces
@ 2016-10-06 1:36 Mike Frysinger
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From: Mike Frysinger @ 2016-10-06 1:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Michael Kerrisk; +Cc: linux-man-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA
If the target process is in a different mount namespace, the root symlink
actually shows that view of the filesystem. As an example:
/* Terminal 1 */
$ unshare -Urnm
17168
/* Terminal 2 */
Signed-off-by: Mike Frysinger <vapier-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
---
man5/proc.5 | 4 ++++
1 file changed, 4 insertions(+)
diff --git a/man5/proc.5 b/man5/proc.5
index 3a5f4407c657..0680902c54a5 100644
--- a/man5/proc.5
+++ b/man5/proc.5
@@ -1513,6 +1513,10 @@ root directory, and behaves in the same way as
and
.IR fd/* .
+Note however that this file is not merely a symlink.
+It provides the same view of the filesystem (including namespaces and the
+set of per-process mounts) as the process itself.
+
.\" The following was still true as at kernel 2.6.13
In a multithreaded process, the contents of this symbolic link
are not available if the main thread has already terminated
--
2.9.0
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* Re: [PATCH] proc(5): clarify the root symlink and mount namespaces
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@ 2016-10-06 5:51 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
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2016-10-06 17:23 ` [PATCH v2] " Mike Frysinger
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From: Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) @ 2016-10-06 5:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mike Frysinger
Cc: mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w, linux-man-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA
Hi Mike,
On 10/06/2016 03:36 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> If the target process is in a different mount namespace, the root symlink
> actually shows that view of the filesystem. As an example:
> /* Terminal 1 */
> $ unshare -Urnm
> 17168
>
> /* Terminal 2 */
Your example appears to have been truncated. It'd be nice to have the
complete example for the commit message. Could you send that?
Thanks,
Michael
> Signed-off-by: Mike Frysinger <vapier-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
> ---
> man5/proc.5 | 4 ++++
> 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/man5/proc.5 b/man5/proc.5
> index 3a5f4407c657..0680902c54a5 100644
> --- a/man5/proc.5
> +++ b/man5/proc.5
> @@ -1513,6 +1513,10 @@ root directory, and behaves in the same way as
> and
> .IR fd/* .
>
> +Note however that this file is not merely a symlink.
> +It provides the same view of the filesystem (including namespaces and the
> +set of per-process mounts) as the process itself.
> +
> .\" The following was still true as at kernel 2.6.13
> In a multithreaded process, the contents of this symbolic link
> are not available if the main thread has already terminated
>
--
Michael Kerrisk
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* [PATCH v2] proc(5): clarify the root symlink and mount namespaces
[not found] ` <20161006013609.17481-1-vapier-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-06 5:51 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
@ 2016-10-06 17:23 ` Mike Frysinger
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From: Mike Frysinger @ 2016-10-06 17:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Michael Kerrisk; +Cc: linux-man-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA
If the target process is in a different mount namespace, the root symlink
actually shows that view of the filesystem. As an example:
/* Terminal 1 */
$ unshare -Urnm
# mount -t tmpfs tmpfs /etc
# mount --bind /bin /dev
# echo $$
17168
/* Terminal 2 */
# ls /etc # Normal view of /etc files.
# ls /proc/17168/root/etc # Empty view of the tmpfs.
# ls /dev # Normal view of /dev files.
# ls /proc/17168/root/dev # Contents of /bin files.
Signed-off-by: Mike Frysinger <vapier-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
---
v2
- restore examples
man5/proc.5 | 4 ++++
1 file changed, 4 insertions(+)
diff --git a/man5/proc.5 b/man5/proc.5
index 3a5f4407c657..0680902c54a5 100644
--- a/man5/proc.5
+++ b/man5/proc.5
@@ -1513,6 +1513,10 @@ root directory, and behaves in the same way as
and
.IR fd/* .
+Note however that this file is not merely a symlink.
+It provides the same view of the filesystem (including namespaces and the
+set of per-process mounts) as the process itself.
+
.\" The following was still true as at kernel 2.6.13
In a multithreaded process, the contents of this symbolic link
are not available if the main thread has already terminated
--
2.9.0
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* Re: [PATCH] proc(5): clarify the root symlink and mount namespaces
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@ 2016-10-06 17:23 ` Mike Frysinger
0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Mike Frysinger @ 2016-10-06 17:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Michael Kerrisk (man-pages); +Cc: linux-man-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA
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On 06 Oct 2016 07:51, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> On 10/06/2016 03:36 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > If the target process is in a different mount namespace, the root symlink
> > actually shows that view of the filesystem. As an example:
> > /* Terminal 1 */
> > $ unshare -Urnm
> > 17168
> >
> > /* Terminal 2 */
>
> Your example appears to have been truncated. It'd be nice to have the
> complete example for the commit message. Could you send that?
blah, i sometimes forget that git eats lines that start with a #,
so trying to use that as your root prompt messes things up.
-mike
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* Re: [PATCH v2] proc(5): clarify the root symlink and mount namespaces
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@ 2016-10-07 12:33 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
[not found] ` <03f48447-e197-fb88-c7fd-ec8c01c38cf7-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
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From: Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) @ 2016-10-07 12:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mike Frysinger
Cc: mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w, linux-man-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA
Hi Mike,
On 10/06/2016 07:23 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> If the target process is in a different mount namespace, the root symlink
> actually shows that view of the filesystem. As an example:
> /* Terminal 1 */
> $ unshare -Urnm
> # mount -t tmpfs tmpfs /etc
> # mount --bind /bin /dev
> # echo $$
> 17168
>
> /* Terminal 2 */
> # ls /etc # Normal view of /etc files.
> # ls /proc/17168/root/etc # Empty view of the tmpfs.
> # ls /dev # Normal view of /dev files.
> # ls /proc/17168/root/dev # Contents of /bin files.
Thanks for the patch! And thanks for the commit message, which is I think
actually useful text for the man page itself, so I added it (in somewhat
modified form) to the page itself.
Cheers,
Michael
> Signed-off-by: Mike Frysinger <vapier-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
> ---
> v2
> - restore examples
>
> man5/proc.5 | 4 ++++
> 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/man5/proc.5 b/man5/proc.5
> index 3a5f4407c657..0680902c54a5 100644
> --- a/man5/proc.5
> +++ b/man5/proc.5
> @@ -1513,6 +1513,10 @@ root directory, and behaves in the same way as
> and
> .IR fd/* .
>
> +Note however that this file is not merely a symlink.
> +It provides the same view of the filesystem (including namespaces and the
> +set of per-process mounts) as the process itself.
> +
> .\" The following was still true as at kernel 2.6.13
> In a multithreaded process, the contents of this symbolic link
> are not available if the main thread has already terminated
>
--
Michael Kerrisk
Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
Linux/UNIX System Programming Training: http://man7.org/training/
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* Re: [PATCH v2] proc(5): clarify the root symlink and mount namespaces
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@ 2016-10-07 19:21 ` Mike Frysinger
[not found] ` <20161007192100.GY21655-UgUKS2FnFs9+urZeOPWqwQ@public.gmane.org>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Mike Frysinger @ 2016-10-07 19:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Michael Kerrisk (man-pages); +Cc: linux-man-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA
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On 07 Oct 2016 14:33, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> On 10/06/2016 07:23 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > If the target process is in a different mount namespace, the root symlink
> > actually shows that view of the filesystem. As an example:
> > /* Terminal 1 */
> > $ unshare -Urnm
> > # mount -t tmpfs tmpfs /etc
> > # mount --bind /bin /dev
> > # echo $$
> > 17168
> >
> > /* Terminal 2 */
> > # ls /etc # Normal view of /etc files.
> > # ls /proc/17168/root/etc # Empty view of the tmpfs.
> > # ls /dev # Normal view of /dev files.
> > # ls /proc/17168/root/dev # Contents of /bin files.
>
> Thanks for the patch! And thanks for the commit message, which is I think
> actually useful text for the man page itself, so I added it (in somewhat
> modified form) to the page itself.
looks like some formatting is off ?
-mike
--- a/man5/proc.5
+++ b/man5/proc.5
@@ -1525,7 +1525,7 @@ and in that shell we create some new mount points:
$ \fBPS1='sh1# ' unshare \-Urnm\fP
sh1# \fBmount \-t tmpfs tmpfs /etc\fP # Mount empty tmpfs at /etc
sh1# \fBmount \-\-bind /usr /dev\fP # Mount /usr at /dev
-sh1# \fBecho $$
+sh1# \fBecho $$\fP
27123
.in
.fi
@@ -1533,10 +1533,10 @@ sh1# \fBecho $$
In a second terminal window, in the initial mount namespace,
we look at the contents of the corresponding mounts in
the initial and new namespaces:
-
+
.nf
.in +4n
-$ \fBPS1='sh2# ' sudo sh
+$ \fBPS1='sh2# ' sudo sh\fP
sh2# \fBls /etc | wc \-l\fP # In initial NS
309
sh2# \fBls /proc/27123/root/etc | wc \-l\fP # /etc in other NS
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* Re: [PATCH v2] proc(5): clarify the root symlink and mount namespaces
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@ 2016-10-07 20:50 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
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From: Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) @ 2016-10-07 20:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-man-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA; +Cc: mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w
On 10/07/2016 09:21 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On 07 Oct 2016 14:33, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
>> On 10/06/2016 07:23 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
>>> If the target process is in a different mount namespace, the root symlink
>>> actually shows that view of the filesystem. As an example:
>>> /* Terminal 1 */
>>> $ unshare -Urnm
>>> # mount -t tmpfs tmpfs /etc
>>> # mount --bind /bin /dev
>>> # echo $$
>>> 17168
>>>
>>> /* Terminal 2 */
>>> # ls /etc # Normal view of /etc files.
>>> # ls /proc/17168/root/etc # Empty view of the tmpfs.
>>> # ls /dev # Normal view of /dev files.
>>> # ls /proc/17168/root/dev # Contents of /bin files.
>>
>> Thanks for the patch! And thanks for the commit message, which is I think
>> actually useful text for the man page itself, so I added it (in somewhat
>> modified form) to the page itself.
>
> looks like some formatting is off ?
Thanks, Mike. Patch applied.
Cheers,
Michael
> --- a/man5/proc.5
> +++ b/man5/proc.5
> @@ -1525,7 +1525,7 @@ and in that shell we create some new mount points:
> $ \fBPS1='sh1# ' unshare \-Urnm\fP
> sh1# \fBmount \-t tmpfs tmpfs /etc\fP # Mount empty tmpfs at /etc
> sh1# \fBmount \-\-bind /usr /dev\fP # Mount /usr at /dev
> -sh1# \fBecho $$
> +sh1# \fBecho $$\fP
> 27123
> .in
> .fi
> @@ -1533,10 +1533,10 @@ sh1# \fBecho $$
> In a second terminal window, in the initial mount namespace,
> we look at the contents of the corresponding mounts in
> the initial and new namespaces:
> -
> +
> .nf
> .in +4n
> -$ \fBPS1='sh2# ' sudo sh
> +$ \fBPS1='sh2# ' sudo sh\fP
> sh2# \fBls /etc | wc \-l\fP # In initial NS
> 309
> sh2# \fBls /proc/27123/root/etc | wc \-l\fP # /etc in other NS
>
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