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From: "Christian König" <ckoenig.leichtzumerken@gmail.com>
To: "Daniel Vetter" <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
Cc: Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"moderated list:DMA BUFFER SHARING FRAMEWORK" 
	<linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org>, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"open list:DMA BUFFER SHARING FRAMEWORK" 
	<linux-media@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Linaro-mm-sig] Changing vma->vm_file in dma_buf_mmap()
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 17:31:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aa953b09-53b1-104b-dc4b-156ad8a75e62@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKMK7uFdwrT3HACPh3ADAKvhXJ-Hf3dExZmgJVAQ1KKjSai_0w@mail.gmail.com>

Am 16.09.20 um 17:24 schrieb Daniel Vetter:
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 4:14 PM Christian König
> <christian.koenig@amd.com> wrote:
>> Am 16.09.20 um 16:07 schrieb Jason Gunthorpe:
>>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 11:53:59AM +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote:
>>>
>>>> But within the driver, we generally need thousands of these, and that
>>>> tends to bring fd exhaustion problems with it. That's why all the private
>>>> buffer objects which aren't shared with other process or other drivers are
>>>> handles only valid for a specific fd instance of the drm chardev (each
>>>> open gets their own namespace), and only for ioctls done on that chardev.
>>>> And for mmap we assign fake (but unique across all open fd on it) offsets
>>>> within the overall chardev. Hence all the pgoff mangling and re-mangling.
>>> Are they still unique struct files? Just without a fdno?
>> Yes, exactly.
> Not entirely, since dma-buf happened after drm chardev, so for that
> historical reason the underlying struct file is shared, since it's the
> drm chardev. But since that's per-device we don't have a problem in
> practice with different vm_ops, since those are also per-device. But
> yeah we could fish out some entirely hidden per-object struct file if
> that's required for some mm internal reasons.

Hui? Ok that is just the handling in i915, isn't it?

As far as I know we create an unique struct file for each DMA-buf.

Regards,
Christian.


> -Daniel
>
>>>> Hence why we'd like to be able to forward aliasing mappings and adjust the
>>>> file and pgoff, while hopefully everything keeps working. I thought this
>>>> would work, but Christian noticed it doesn't really.
>>> It seems reasonable to me that the dma buf should be the owner of the
>>> VMA, otherwise like you say, there is a big mess attaching the custom
>>> vma ops and what not to the proper dma buf.
>>>
>>> I don't see anything obviously against this in mmap_region() - why did
>>> Chritian notice it doesn't really work?
>> To clarify I think this might work.
>>
>> I just had the same "Is that legal?", "What about security?", etc..
>> questions you raised as well.
>>
>> It seems like a source of trouble so I thought better ask somebody more
>> familiar with that.
>>
>> Christian.
>>
>>> Jason
>> _______________________________________________
>> dri-devel mailing list
>> dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
>> https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel
>
>


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From: "Christian König" <ckoenig.leichtzumerken@gmail.com>
To: "Daniel Vetter" <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
Cc: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"moderated list:DMA BUFFER SHARING FRAMEWORK"
	<linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org>, Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"open list:DMA BUFFER SHARING FRAMEWORK"
	<linux-media@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Linaro-mm-sig] Changing vma->vm_file in dma_buf_mmap()
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 17:31:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aa953b09-53b1-104b-dc4b-156ad8a75e62@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKMK7uFdwrT3HACPh3ADAKvhXJ-Hf3dExZmgJVAQ1KKjSai_0w@mail.gmail.com>

Am 16.09.20 um 17:24 schrieb Daniel Vetter:
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 4:14 PM Christian König
> <christian.koenig@amd.com> wrote:
>> Am 16.09.20 um 16:07 schrieb Jason Gunthorpe:
>>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 11:53:59AM +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote:
>>>
>>>> But within the driver, we generally need thousands of these, and that
>>>> tends to bring fd exhaustion problems with it. That's why all the private
>>>> buffer objects which aren't shared with other process or other drivers are
>>>> handles only valid for a specific fd instance of the drm chardev (each
>>>> open gets their own namespace), and only for ioctls done on that chardev.
>>>> And for mmap we assign fake (but unique across all open fd on it) offsets
>>>> within the overall chardev. Hence all the pgoff mangling and re-mangling.
>>> Are they still unique struct files? Just without a fdno?
>> Yes, exactly.
> Not entirely, since dma-buf happened after drm chardev, so for that
> historical reason the underlying struct file is shared, since it's the
> drm chardev. But since that's per-device we don't have a problem in
> practice with different vm_ops, since those are also per-device. But
> yeah we could fish out some entirely hidden per-object struct file if
> that's required for some mm internal reasons.

Hui? Ok that is just the handling in i915, isn't it?

As far as I know we create an unique struct file for each DMA-buf.

Regards,
Christian.


> -Daniel
>
>>>> Hence why we'd like to be able to forward aliasing mappings and adjust the
>>>> file and pgoff, while hopefully everything keeps working. I thought this
>>>> would work, but Christian noticed it doesn't really.
>>> It seems reasonable to me that the dma buf should be the owner of the
>>> VMA, otherwise like you say, there is a big mess attaching the custom
>>> vma ops and what not to the proper dma buf.
>>>
>>> I don't see anything obviously against this in mmap_region() - why did
>>> Chritian notice it doesn't really work?
>> To clarify I think this might work.
>>
>> I just had the same "Is that legal?", "What about security?", etc..
>> questions you raised as well.
>>
>> It seems like a source of trouble so I thought better ask somebody more
>> familiar with that.
>>
>> Christian.
>>
>>> Jason
>> _______________________________________________
>> dri-devel mailing list
>> dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
>> https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel
>
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-16 19:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-14 13:29 Changing vma->vm_file in dma_buf_mmap() Christian König
2020-09-14 13:29 ` Christian König
2020-09-14 13:29 ` [PATCH 1/2] drm/shmem-helpers: revert "Redirect mmap for imported dma-buf" Christian König
2020-09-14 13:29   ` Christian König
2020-09-15 10:39   ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-15 10:39     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-15 10:39     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-15 11:03     ` Christian König
2020-09-15 11:03       ` Christian König
2020-09-15 11:03       ` Christian König
2020-09-15 11:07       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-15 11:07         ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-15 11:07         ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-14 13:29 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: introduce vma_set_file function Christian König
2020-09-14 13:29   ` Christian König
2020-09-15  9:19   ` kernel test robot
2020-09-15  9:19     ` kernel test robot
2020-09-15  9:19     ` kernel test robot
2020-09-15 11:57   ` kernel test robot
2020-09-15 11:57     ` kernel test robot
2020-09-15 11:57     ` kernel test robot
2020-09-14 13:30 ` Changing vma->vm_file in dma_buf_mmap() Christian König
2020-09-14 13:30   ` Christian König
2020-09-14 14:06   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-14 14:06     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-14 18:26     ` Christian König
2020-09-14 18:26       ` Christian König
2020-09-16  9:53       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-16  9:53         ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-16 10:14         ` Christian König
2020-09-16 10:14           ` Christian König
2020-09-16 11:45           ` Christian König
2020-09-16 11:45             ` Christian König
2020-09-16 12:41             ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-16 12:41               ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-16 12:41               ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-16 14:07         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-16 14:07           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-16 14:14           ` Christian König
2020-09-16 14:14             ` Christian König
2020-09-16 15:24             ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-16 15:24               ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-16 15:24               ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-16 15:31               ` Christian König [this message]
2020-09-16 15:31                 ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Christian König
2020-09-16 15:31                 ` Christian König
2020-09-17  6:23                 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-17  6:23                   ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-17  6:23                   ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-17  7:11                   ` Christian König
2020-09-17  7:11                     ` Christian König
2020-09-17  7:11                     ` Christian König
2020-09-17  8:09                     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-17  8:09                       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-17  8:09                       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-17 11:31                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-17 11:31                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-17 12:03                         ` Christian König
2020-09-17 12:03                           ` Christian König
2020-09-17 12:18                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-17 12:18                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-17 12:18                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-17 12:24                             ` Christian König
2020-09-17 12:24                               ` Christian König
2020-09-17 12:24                               ` Christian König
2020-09-17 12:26                               ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-17 12:26                                 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-17 12:26                                 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-17 14:35                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-17 14:35                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-17 14:35                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-17 14:54                                 ` Christian König
2020-09-17 14:54                                   ` Christian König
2020-09-17 14:54                                   ` Christian König
2020-09-17 15:24                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-17 15:24                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-17 15:24                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-17 15:37                                     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-17 15:37                                       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-17 16:06                                       ` Christian König
2020-09-17 16:06                                         ` Christian König
2020-09-17 16:06                                         ` Christian König
2020-09-17 16:39                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-17 16:39                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-17 16:39                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-17 17:23                                           ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-17 17:23                                             ` Daniel Vetter

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