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From: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>, Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>,
	Martin Schrodt <martin@schrodt.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Drop support for 32bit hosts in qemu?
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2018 10:09:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aa9afd06-19da-1f48-c20c-2f1eff2e861a@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fu18ach6.fsf_-_@dusky.pond.sub.org>

On 27.06.2018 09:57, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com> writes:
> 
>> On 27.06.2018 08:51, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
> [...]
>>> Drop support for 32bit hosts in qemu?
>>
>> I guess the only way to answer that question reliably is to send a patch
>> to mark 32-bit hosts as deprecated...
>>
>> Anyway, you still have got to fix that problem with -m32 now somehow
>> since we certainly can not drop 32-bit immediately.
> 
> We certainly can if we want to.
> 
> Our formal deprecation policy codifies our compromise between the need
> to evolve QEMU and the need of its users for stable external interfaces.
> 
> "Compiles on host X" is also a need, but it's a different one.
> Evidence: "Supported build platforms" has its own appendix, separate
> from "Deprecated features".  It's mum on 32-bit hosts.

Theoretically I'd agree, but actually it's more than that: If we drop
support for 32-bit hosts, we could also drop the qemu-system-i386,
qemu-system-ppc and qemu-system-arm targets, since qemu-system-x86_64,
qemu-system-ppc64 and qemu-system-aarch64 are a clear superset of these.
But that would also mean a change of the user interface, since the name
of the executable changes, and at least for ppc, there are also subtle
differences (different default machine type, different default CPU types).

 Thomas

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-27  8:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-25 13:12 [Qemu-devel] [PULL 0/6] Audio 20180625 patches Gerd Hoffmann
2018-06-25 13:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 1/6] audio/hda: create millisecond timers that handle IO Gerd Hoffmann
2018-06-26 19:55   ` Max Reitz
2018-06-27  6:51     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2018-06-27  7:24       ` Thomas Huth
2018-06-27  7:57         ` [Qemu-devel] Drop support for 32bit hosts in qemu? (was: [PULL 1/6] audio/hda: create millisecond timers that handle IO) Markus Armbruster
2018-06-27  8:09           ` Thomas Huth [this message]
2018-06-27  8:56             ` [Qemu-devel] Drop support for 32bit hosts in qemu? Gerd Hoffmann
2018-06-27 11:08             ` Alex Bennée
2018-06-27 11:09               ` Thomas Huth
2018-06-27  8:15           ` [Qemu-devel] Drop support for 32bit hosts in qemu? (was: [PULL 1/6] audio/hda: create millisecond timers that handle IO) BALATON Zoltan
2018-06-27  8:52             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2018-06-27  9:09               ` Thomas Huth
2018-06-27 13:33                 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2018-06-27 15:41                   ` Laurent Vivier
2018-06-27 18:44                     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-27 19:55                       ` Laurent Vivier
2018-06-27 10:49               ` Peter Maydell
2018-06-27 11:09                 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-27 13:08                   ` Alex Bennée
2018-06-27 13:09                     ` Alex Bennée
2018-06-27 11:09           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-27 13:03             ` Alex Bennée
2018-06-27 13:38               ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2018-06-27 13:02           ` [Qemu-devel] Drop support for 32bit hosts in qemu? Juan Quintela
2018-06-27 13:11             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-27 11:13       ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 1/6] audio/hda: create millisecond timers that handle IO Gerd Hoffmann
2018-06-27 13:15         ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-06-27 12:21       ` Eric Blake
2018-06-29  8:19   ` Peter Maydell
2018-06-29 15:11     ` Eric Blake
2018-06-25 13:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 2/6] audio/hda: turn some dprintfs into trace points Gerd Hoffmann
2018-06-25 13:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 3/6] audio/hda: tweak timer adjust logic Gerd Hoffmann
2018-06-25 13:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 4/6] audio/hda: detect output buffer overruns Gerd Hoffmann
2018-06-25 13:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 5/6] audio/hda: enable new timer code by default Gerd Hoffmann
2018-06-25 13:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 6/6] audio: Convert use of atoi to qemu_strtoi Gerd Hoffmann
2018-06-25 15:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 0/6] Audio 20180625 patches Peter Maydell

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