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From: Michael Mueller <mimu@linux.ibm.com>
To: Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>,
	Sebastian Ott <sebott@linux.ibm.com>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Viktor Mihajlovski <mihajlov@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>, Vasily Gorbik <gor@linux.ibm.com>,
	Janosch Frank <frankja@linux.ibm.com>,
	Claudio Imbrenda <imbrenda@linux.ibm.com>,
	Farhan Ali <alifm@linux.ibm.com>,
	Eric Farman <farman@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/10] s390/cio: introduce DMA pools to cio
Date: Tue, 21 May 2019 10:46:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <af3479db-691c-ddd3-0253-f379cc528f57@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190520141312.4e3a2d36.pasic@linux.ibm.com>



On 20.05.19 14:13, Halil Pasic wrote:
> On Thu, 16 May 2019 15:59:22 +0200 (CEST)
> Sebastian Ott <sebott@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, 12 May 2019, Halil Pasic wrote:
>>> I've also got code that deals with AIRQ_IV_CACHELINE by turning the
>>> kmem_cache into a dma_pool.
>>>
>>> Cornelia, Sebastian which approach do you prefer:
>>> 1) get rid of cio_dma_pool and AIRQ_IV_CACHELINE, and waste a page per
>>> vector, or
>>> 2) go with the approach taken by the patch below?
>>
>> We only have a couple of users for airq_iv:
>>
>> virtio_ccw.c: 2K bits
> 
> 
> You mean a single allocation is 2k bits (VIRTIO_IV_BITS = 256 * 8)? My
> understanding is that the upper bound is more like:
> MAX_AIRQ_AREAS * VIRTIO_IV_BITS = 20 * 256 * 8 = 40960 bits.
> 
> In practice it is most likely just 2k.
> 
>>
>> pci with floating IRQs: <= 2K (for the per-function bit vectors)
>>                          1..4K (for the summary bit vector)
>>
> 
> As far as I can tell with virtio_pci arch_setup_msi_irqs() gets called
> once per device and allocates a small number of bits (2 and 3 in my
> test, it may depend on #virtqueues, but I did not check).
> 
> So for an upper bound we would have to multiply with the upper bound of
> pci devices/functions. What is the upper bound on the number of
> functions?
> 
>> pci with CPU directed IRQs: 2K (for the per-CPU bit vectors)
>>                              1..nr_cpu (for the summary bit vector)
>>
> 
> I guess this is the same.
> 
>>
>> The options are:
>> * page allocations for everything
> 
> Worst case we need 20 + #max_pci_dev pages. At the moment we allocate
> from ZONE_DMA (!) and waste a lot.
> 
>> * dma_pool for AIRQ_IV_CACHELINE ,gen_pool for others
> 
> I prefer this. Explanation follows.
> 
>> * dma_pool for everything
>>
> 
> Less waste by factor factor 16.
> 
>> I think we should do option 3 and use a dma_pool with cachesize
>> alignment for everything (as a prerequisite we have to limit
>> config PCI_NR_FUNCTIONS to 2K - but that is not a real constraint).
>>
> 
> I prefer option 3 because it is conceptually the smallest change, and
> provides the behavior which is closest to the current one.
> 
> Commit  414cbd1e3d14 "s390/airq: provide cacheline aligned
> ivs" (Sebastian Ott, 2019-02-27) could have been smaller had you implemented
> 'kmem_cache for everything' (and I would have had just to replace kmem_cache with
> dma_cache to achieve option 3). For some reason you decided to keep the
> iv->vector = kzalloc(size, GFP_KERNEL) code-path and make the client code request
> iv->vector = kmem_cache_zalloc(airq_iv_cache, GFP_KERNEL) explicitly, using a flag
> which you only decided to use for directed pci irqs AFAICT.
> 
> My understanding of these decisions, and especially of the rationale
> behind commit 414cbd1e3d14 is limited. Thus if option 3 is the way to
> go, and the choices made by 414cbd1e3d14 were sub-optimal, I would feel
> much more comfortable if you provided a patch that revises  and switches
> everything to kmem_chache. I would then just swap kmem_cache out with a
> dma_cache and my change would end up a straightforward and relatively
> clean one.
> 
> So Sebastian, what shall we do?
> 
> Regards,
> Halil
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> Sebastian
>>
> 

Folks, I had a version running with slight changes to the initial
v1 patch set together with a revert of 414cbd1e3d14 "s390/airq: provide 
cacheline aligned ivs". That of course has the deficit of the memory
usage pattern.

Now you are discussing same substantial changes. The exercise was to
get an initial working code through the door. We really need a decision!


Michael

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Michael Mueller <mimu@linux.ibm.com>
To: Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>,
	Sebastian Ott <sebott@linux.ibm.com>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Viktor Mihajlovski <mihajlov@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>,
	Farhan Ali <alifm@linux.ibm.com>,
	Vasily Gorbik <gor@linux.ibm.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	Eric Farman <farman@linux.ibm.com>,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	Claudio Imbrenda <imbrenda@linux.ibm.com>,
	Janosch Frank <frankja@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/10] s390/cio: introduce DMA pools to cio
Date: Tue, 21 May 2019 10:46:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <af3479db-691c-ddd3-0253-f379cc528f57@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190520141312.4e3a2d36.pasic@linux.ibm.com>



On 20.05.19 14:13, Halil Pasic wrote:
> On Thu, 16 May 2019 15:59:22 +0200 (CEST)
> Sebastian Ott <sebott@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, 12 May 2019, Halil Pasic wrote:
>>> I've also got code that deals with AIRQ_IV_CACHELINE by turning the
>>> kmem_cache into a dma_pool.
>>>
>>> Cornelia, Sebastian which approach do you prefer:
>>> 1) get rid of cio_dma_pool and AIRQ_IV_CACHELINE, and waste a page per
>>> vector, or
>>> 2) go with the approach taken by the patch below?
>>
>> We only have a couple of users for airq_iv:
>>
>> virtio_ccw.c: 2K bits
> 
> 
> You mean a single allocation is 2k bits (VIRTIO_IV_BITS = 256 * 8)? My
> understanding is that the upper bound is more like:
> MAX_AIRQ_AREAS * VIRTIO_IV_BITS = 20 * 256 * 8 = 40960 bits.
> 
> In practice it is most likely just 2k.
> 
>>
>> pci with floating IRQs: <= 2K (for the per-function bit vectors)
>>                          1..4K (for the summary bit vector)
>>
> 
> As far as I can tell with virtio_pci arch_setup_msi_irqs() gets called
> once per device and allocates a small number of bits (2 and 3 in my
> test, it may depend on #virtqueues, but I did not check).
> 
> So for an upper bound we would have to multiply with the upper bound of
> pci devices/functions. What is the upper bound on the number of
> functions?
> 
>> pci with CPU directed IRQs: 2K (for the per-CPU bit vectors)
>>                              1..nr_cpu (for the summary bit vector)
>>
> 
> I guess this is the same.
> 
>>
>> The options are:
>> * page allocations for everything
> 
> Worst case we need 20 + #max_pci_dev pages. At the moment we allocate
> from ZONE_DMA (!) and waste a lot.
> 
>> * dma_pool for AIRQ_IV_CACHELINE ,gen_pool for others
> 
> I prefer this. Explanation follows.
> 
>> * dma_pool for everything
>>
> 
> Less waste by factor factor 16.
> 
>> I think we should do option 3 and use a dma_pool with cachesize
>> alignment for everything (as a prerequisite we have to limit
>> config PCI_NR_FUNCTIONS to 2K - but that is not a real constraint).
>>
> 
> I prefer option 3 because it is conceptually the smallest change, and
> provides the behavior which is closest to the current one.
> 
> Commit  414cbd1e3d14 "s390/airq: provide cacheline aligned
> ivs" (Sebastian Ott, 2019-02-27) could have been smaller had you implemented
> 'kmem_cache for everything' (and I would have had just to replace kmem_cache with
> dma_cache to achieve option 3). For some reason you decided to keep the
> iv->vector = kzalloc(size, GFP_KERNEL) code-path and make the client code request
> iv->vector = kmem_cache_zalloc(airq_iv_cache, GFP_KERNEL) explicitly, using a flag
> which you only decided to use for directed pci irqs AFAICT.
> 
> My understanding of these decisions, and especially of the rationale
> behind commit 414cbd1e3d14 is limited. Thus if option 3 is the way to
> go, and the choices made by 414cbd1e3d14 were sub-optimal, I would feel
> much more comfortable if you provided a patch that revises  and switches
> everything to kmem_chache. I would then just swap kmem_cache out with a
> dma_cache and my change would end up a straightforward and relatively
> clean one.
> 
> So Sebastian, what shall we do?
> 
> Regards,
> Halil
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> Sebastian
>>
> 

Folks, I had a version running with slight changes to the initial
v1 patch set together with a revert of 414cbd1e3d14 "s390/airq: provide 
cacheline aligned ivs". That of course has the deficit of the memory
usage pattern.

Now you are discussing same substantial changes. The exercise was to
get an initial working code through the door. We really need a decision!


Michael

  reply	other threads:[~2019-05-21  8:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 182+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-26 18:32 [PATCH 00/10] s390: virtio: support protected virtualization Halil Pasic
2019-04-26 18:32 ` Halil Pasic
2019-04-26 18:32 ` [PATCH 01/10] virtio/s390: use vring_create_virtqueue Halil Pasic
2019-04-26 18:32   ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-03  9:17   ` Cornelia Huck
2019-05-03 20:04     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-05-03 20:04       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-05-04 14:03       ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-04 14:03         ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-05 11:15         ` Cornelia Huck
2019-05-05 11:15           ` Cornelia Huck
2019-05-07 13:58           ` Christian Borntraeger
2019-05-07 13:58             ` Christian Borntraeger
2019-05-08 20:12             ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-08 20:12               ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-10 14:07             ` Cornelia Huck
2019-05-10 14:07               ` Cornelia Huck
2019-05-12 16:47               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-05-12 16:47                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-05-13  9:52                 ` Cornelia Huck
2019-05-13  9:52                   ` Cornelia Huck
2019-05-13 12:27                   ` Michael Mueller
2019-05-13 12:27                     ` Michael Mueller
2019-05-13 12:29                     ` Cornelia Huck
2019-05-13 12:29                       ` Cornelia Huck
2019-04-26 18:32 ` [PATCH 02/10] virtio/s390: DMA support for virtio-ccw Halil Pasic
2019-04-26 18:32   ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-03  9:31   ` Cornelia Huck
2019-04-26 18:32 ` [PATCH 03/10] virtio/s390: enable packed ring Halil Pasic
2019-04-26 18:32   ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-03  9:44   ` Cornelia Huck
2019-05-05 15:13     ` Thomas Huth
2019-05-05 15:13       ` Thomas Huth
2019-04-26 18:32 ` [PATCH 04/10] s390/mm: force swiotlb for protected virtualization Halil Pasic
2019-04-26 18:32   ` Halil Pasic
2019-04-26 19:27   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-04-26 19:27     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-04-29 13:59     ` Halil Pasic
2019-04-29 13:59       ` Halil Pasic
2019-04-29 14:05       ` Christian Borntraeger
2019-04-29 14:05         ` Christian Borntraeger
2019-05-13 12:50         ` Michael Mueller
2019-05-13 12:50           ` Michael Mueller
2019-05-08 13:15   ` Claudio Imbrenda
2019-05-08 13:15     ` Claudio Imbrenda
2019-05-09 22:34     ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-09 22:34       ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-15 14:15       ` Michael Mueller
2019-05-15 14:15         ` Michael Mueller
     [not found]   ` <ad23f5e7-dc78-04af-c892-47bbc65134c6@linux.ibm.com>
2019-05-09 18:05     ` Jason J. Herne
2019-05-09 18:05       ` Jason J. Herne
2019-05-09 18:05       ` Jason J. Herne
2019-05-10  7:49       ` Claudio Imbrenda
2019-05-10  7:49         ` Claudio Imbrenda
2019-04-26 18:32 ` [PATCH 05/10] s390/cio: introduce DMA pools to cio Halil Pasic
2019-04-26 18:32   ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-08 13:18   ` Sebastian Ott
2019-05-08 13:18     ` Sebastian Ott
2019-05-08 21:22     ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-08 21:22       ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-09  8:40       ` Sebastian Ott
2019-05-09  8:40         ` Sebastian Ott
2019-05-09 10:11       ` Cornelia Huck
2019-05-09 10:11         ` Cornelia Huck
2019-05-09 22:11         ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-09 22:11           ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-10 14:10           ` Cornelia Huck
2019-05-10 14:10             ` Cornelia Huck
2019-05-12 18:22             ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-12 18:22               ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-13 13:29               ` Cornelia Huck
2019-05-13 13:29                 ` Cornelia Huck
2019-05-15 17:12                 ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-15 17:12                   ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-16  6:13                   ` Cornelia Huck
2019-05-16  6:13                     ` Cornelia Huck
2019-05-16 13:59               ` Sebastian Ott
2019-05-16 13:59                 ` Sebastian Ott
2019-05-20 12:13                 ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-20 12:13                   ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-21  8:46                   ` Michael Mueller [this message]
2019-05-21  8:46                     ` Michael Mueller
2019-05-22 12:07                   ` Sebastian Ott
2019-05-22 12:07                     ` Sebastian Ott
2019-05-22 22:12                     ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-22 22:12                       ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-23 15:17     ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-23 15:17       ` Halil Pasic
2019-04-26 18:32 ` [PATCH 06/10] s390/cio: add basic protected virtualization support Halil Pasic
2019-04-26 18:32   ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-08 13:46   ` Sebastian Ott
2019-05-08 13:46     ` Sebastian Ott
2019-05-08 13:54     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-05-08 13:54       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-05-08 21:08     ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-08 21:08       ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-09  8:52       ` Sebastian Ott
2019-05-09  8:52         ` Sebastian Ott
2019-05-08 14:23   ` Pierre Morel
2019-05-08 14:23     ` Pierre Morel
2019-05-13  9:41   ` Cornelia Huck
2019-05-13  9:41     ` Cornelia Huck
2019-05-14 14:47     ` Jason J. Herne
2019-05-14 14:47       ` Jason J. Herne
2019-05-15 21:08       ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-15 21:08         ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-16  6:32         ` Cornelia Huck
2019-05-16  6:32           ` Cornelia Huck
2019-05-16 13:42           ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-16 13:42             ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-16 13:54             ` Cornelia Huck
2019-05-16 13:54               ` Cornelia Huck
2019-05-15 20:51     ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-15 20:51       ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-16  6:29       ` Cornelia Huck
2019-05-16  6:29         ` Cornelia Huck
2019-05-18 18:11         ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-18 18:11           ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-20 10:21           ` Cornelia Huck
2019-05-20 10:21             ` Cornelia Huck
2019-05-20 12:34             ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-20 12:34               ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-20 13:43               ` Cornelia Huck
2019-05-20 13:43                 ` Cornelia Huck
2019-04-26 18:32 ` [PATCH 07/10] s390/airq: use DMA memory for adapter interrupts Halil Pasic
2019-04-26 18:32   ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-08 13:58   ` Sebastian Ott
2019-05-08 13:58     ` Sebastian Ott
2019-05-09 11:37   ` Cornelia Huck
2019-05-09 11:37     ` Cornelia Huck
2019-05-13 12:59   ` Cornelia Huck
2019-05-13 12:59     ` Cornelia Huck
2019-04-26 18:32 ` [PATCH 08/10] virtio/s390: add indirection to indicators access Halil Pasic
2019-04-26 18:32   ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-08 14:31   ` Pierre Morel
2019-05-08 14:31     ` Pierre Morel
2019-05-09 12:01     ` Pierre Morel
2019-05-09 12:01       ` Pierre Morel
2019-05-09 18:26       ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-09 18:26         ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-10  7:43         ` Pierre Morel
2019-05-10  7:43           ` Pierre Morel
2019-05-10 11:54           ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-10 11:54             ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-10 15:36             ` Pierre Morel
2019-05-10 15:36               ` Pierre Morel
2019-05-13 10:15               ` Cornelia Huck
2019-05-13 10:15                 ` Cornelia Huck
2019-05-16 15:24                 ` Pierre Morel
2019-05-16 15:24                   ` Pierre Morel
2019-04-26 18:32 ` [PATCH 09/10] virtio/s390: use DMA memory for ccw I/O and classic notifiers Halil Pasic
2019-04-26 18:32   ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-08 14:46   ` Pierre Morel
2019-05-08 14:46     ` Pierre Morel
2019-05-09 13:30     ` Pierre Morel
2019-05-09 13:30       ` Pierre Morel
2019-05-09 18:30       ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-09 18:30         ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-13 13:54   ` Cornelia Huck
2019-05-13 13:54     ` Cornelia Huck
2019-04-26 18:32 ` [PATCH 10/10] virtio/s390: make airq summary indicators DMA Halil Pasic
2019-04-26 18:32   ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-08 15:11   ` Pierre Morel
2019-05-08 15:11     ` Pierre Morel
2019-05-15 13:33     ` Michael Mueller
2019-05-15 13:33       ` Michael Mueller
2019-05-15 17:23       ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-15 17:23         ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-13 12:20   ` Cornelia Huck
2019-05-13 12:20     ` Cornelia Huck
2019-05-15 13:43     ` Michael Mueller
2019-05-15 13:43       ` Michael Mueller
2019-05-15 13:50       ` Cornelia Huck
2019-05-15 13:50         ` Cornelia Huck
2019-05-15 17:18       ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-15 17:18         ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-03  9:55 ` [PATCH 00/10] s390: virtio: support protected virtualization Cornelia Huck
2019-05-03 10:03   ` Juergen Gross
2019-05-03 13:33   ` Cornelia Huck
2019-05-03 13:33     ` Cornelia Huck
2019-05-04 13:58   ` Halil Pasic
2019-05-04 13:58     ` Halil Pasic

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