* sunit & swidth on RAID-1?
@ 2009-02-11 15:56 mike dentifrice
2009-02-11 16:42 ` Justin Piszcz
2009-02-11 16:46 ` Eric Sandeen
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From: mike dentifrice @ 2009-02-11 15:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: xfs
Hello,
I would like to know if it makes any sense to specify sunit & swidth
parameters as mount options to XFS filesystems sitting on a Linux
software RAID-1 array, as advertised here [1] or there [2].
I'm asking, because it seems that chunk_size does not matter in a RAID-1
context, nor do stripe units; or do they?
Any tip would be appreciated,
[1] http://www.socalsysadmin.com/2008/10/15/optimizing-xfs-on-raid-arrays/
[2] http://feedblog.org/2008/06/18/howto-configure-raid-strides-in-xfs/
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* Re: sunit & swidth on RAID-1?
2009-02-11 15:56 sunit & swidth on RAID-1? mike dentifrice
@ 2009-02-11 16:42 ` Justin Piszcz
[not found] ` <20090211165316.GA4430@dentifrice>
2009-02-11 16:46 ` Eric Sandeen
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From: Justin Piszcz @ 2009-02-11 16:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mike dentifrice; +Cc: xfs
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On Wed, 11 Feb 2009, mike dentifrice wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I would like to know if it makes any sense to specify sunit & swidth
> parameters as mount options to XFS filesystems sitting on a Linux
> software RAID-1 array, as advertised here [1] or there [2].
>
> I'm asking, because it seems that chunk_size does not matter in a RAID-1
> context, nor do stripe units; or do they?
>
> Any tip would be appreciated,
>
> [1] http://www.socalsysadmin.com/2008/10/15/optimizing-xfs-on-raid-arrays/
> [2] http://feedblog.org/2008/06/18/howto-configure-raid-strides-in-xfs/
>
> --
> mike dentifrice <fluor@poivron.org>
>
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mkfs.xfs will auto-optimize for software-raid arrays for the most part,
with HW raid on a 3ware controller, tweaking mkfs.xfs does not help very
much. with SW raid, at least for raid1 - I use the defaults.
Justin.
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* Re: sunit & swidth on RAID-1?
2009-02-11 15:56 sunit & swidth on RAID-1? mike dentifrice
2009-02-11 16:42 ` Justin Piszcz
@ 2009-02-11 16:46 ` Eric Sandeen
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From: Eric Sandeen @ 2009-02-11 16:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mike dentifrice; +Cc: xfs
mike dentifrice wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I would like to know if it makes any sense to specify sunit & swidth
> parameters as mount options to XFS filesystems sitting on a Linux
> software RAID-1 array, as advertised here [1] or there [2].
>
> I'm asking, because it seems that chunk_size does not matter in a RAID-1
> context, nor do stripe units; or do they?
I don't think it does matter. And for what it's worth, mkfs.xfs queries
an MD raid, but ignores raid1/10/0:
/*
* Ignore levels we don't want aligned (e.g. linear)
* and deduct disk(s) from stripe width on RAID4/5/6
*/
switch (md.level) {
case 6:
md.raid_disks--;
/* fallthrough */
case 5:
case 4:
md.raid_disks--;
/* fallthrough */
case 1:
case 0:
case 10:
break;
default:
return 0;
In general, mkfs.xfs on md should just "do the right thing"
-Eric
> Any tip would be appreciated,
>
> [1] http://www.socalsysadmin.com/2008/10/15/optimizing-xfs-on-raid-arrays/
> [2] http://feedblog.org/2008/06/18/howto-configure-raid-strides-in-xfs/
>
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* Re: sunit & swidth on RAID-1?
[not found] ` <20090211165316.GA4430@dentifrice>
@ 2009-02-11 17:10 ` Justin Piszcz
2009-02-11 21:12 ` Michael Monnerie
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From: Justin Piszcz @ 2009-02-11 17:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mike dentifrice; +Cc: xfs
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009, mike dentifrice wrote:
> Justin Piszcz a dit:
>> mkfs.xfs will auto-optimize for software-raid arrays for the most
>> part, with HW raid on a 3ware controller, tweaking mkfs.xfs does not
>> help very much. with SW raid, at least for raid1 - I use the
>> defaults.
>
> Thanks for your reply. However, I wonder about the defaults:
>
> xfs_info /dev/md1 | grep -E '(sunit|swidth)'
>
> Outputs:
>
> sunit=0 swidth=0 blks, unwritten=1
> sectsz=512 sunit=0 blks
>
> What's the consequence of 0 values in this case?
>
> Greetings,
>
> --
> mike dentifrice <fluor@poivron.org>
>
# xfs_info /dev/md2 | grep -E '(sunit|swidth)'
= sunit=0 swidth=0 blks
= sectsz=512 sunit=0 blks, lazy-count=0
Mine is similar, I guess you would need to benchmark to find out if you
were worried about it. I ran multiple copies from a RAID1 (dual raptors)
and was able to get the performance of both of the drives combine, so I am
not really worried about this setting.
Justin.
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* Re: sunit & swidth on RAID-1?
[not found] ` <20090211165316.GA4430@dentifrice>
2009-02-11 17:10 ` Justin Piszcz
@ 2009-02-11 21:12 ` Michael Monnerie
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From: Michael Monnerie @ 2009-02-11 21:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Mittwoch 11 Februar 2009 mike dentifrice wrote:
> sunit=0 swidth=0 blks, unwritten=1
> sectsz=512 sunit=0 blks
>
> What's the consequence of 0 values in this case?
XFS then knows that 512 byte (aka sector) alignment is sufficient, as
RAID-1 will only write 512b to each disk and does not need full stripe
unit writes like RAID-4/5/6 need. Therefore performance is better with
the values you have.
mfg zmi
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