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From: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
To: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [patch -mm 08/18] oom: badness heuristic rewrite
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 23:48:55 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1006022344590.22441@chino.kir.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100603104314.723D.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com>

On Thu, 3 Jun 2010, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:

> > I would consider what I said above, "when faced with memory pressure from 
> > an out of control or memory hogging task on the desktop, the oom killer 
> > now kills it instead of a vital task such as an X server because of the 
> > use of the task's rss instead of total_vm statistic" as an improvement 
> > over killing X in those cases which it currently does.  How do you 
> > disagree?
> 
> People observed simple s/total_vm/rss/ patch solve X issue.

It doesn't, you need to consider swap as well.

> Then,
> other additional pieces need to explain why that's necessary and
> how to confirm it.
> 

Are you talking about oom_score_adj?  Please read the patch description.

> In other word, I'm sure I'll continue to get OOM bug report in future.
> I'll need to decide revert or not revert each patches. no infomation is
> unwelcome. also, that's the reason why all of rewrite patch is wrong.
> if it will be merged, small bug report eventually is going to make
> all of revert. that doesn't fit our developerment process.
> 

You're speculating that a new problem will be introduced with this change 
that you cannot describe but are concerned that you won't be able to debug 
that unknown issue without simply reverting the entire change?  These 
"nack"ing reasons of yours are getting more and more interesting, I must 
say.

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-03  6:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-01  7:18 [patch -mm 00/18] oom killer rewrite David Rientjes
2010-06-01  7:18 ` [patch -mm 01/18] oom: filter tasks not sharing the same cpuset David Rientjes
2010-06-01  7:20   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 11:41   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 18:37     ` David Rientjes
2010-06-13 11:24       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-17  3:33         ` David Rientjes
2010-06-21 11:45           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-21 11:45           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 11:41   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 18:43     ` David Rientjes
2010-06-08 23:25       ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-08 23:54         ` David Rientjes
2010-06-09  0:06           ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-09  1:07             ` David Rientjes
2010-06-13 11:24             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01  7:18 ` [patch -mm 02/18] oom: sacrifice child with highest badness score for parent David Rientjes
2010-06-01  7:39   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 11:41   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 18:41     ` David Rientjes
2010-06-13 11:24       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-14  8:54         ` David Rientjes
2010-06-14 11:08           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 11:41   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 18:45     ` David Rientjes
2010-06-01  7:18 ` [patch -mm 03/18] oom: select task from tasklist for mempolicy ooms David Rientjes
2010-06-01  7:39   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 11:41   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 23:28     ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-08 11:41   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01  7:18 ` [patch -mm 04/18] oom: extract panic helper function David Rientjes
2010-06-01  7:33   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01  7:18 ` [patch -mm 05/18] oom: remove special handling for pagefault ooms David Rientjes
2010-06-01  7:34   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01  7:18 ` [patch -mm 06/18] oom: move sysctl declarations to oom.h David Rientjes
2010-06-01  7:34   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01  7:18 ` [patch -mm 07/18] oom: enable oom tasklist dump by default David Rientjes
2010-06-01  7:36   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01  7:18 ` [patch -mm 08/18] oom: badness heuristic rewrite David Rientjes
2010-06-01  7:36   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01 18:44     ` David Rientjes
2010-06-02 13:54       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-02 21:20         ` David Rientjes
2010-06-03 23:10         ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-03 23:53           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-04  0:04             ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-04  0:20               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-04  5:57                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-04  9:22                   ` David Rientjes
2010-06-04  9:19             ` David Rientjes
2010-06-04  9:43             ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-04 10:54           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-04 20:57             ` David Rientjes
2010-06-08 11:41               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 23:47                 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-17  3:28                   ` David Rientjes
2010-06-01  7:46   ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-01 18:56     ` David Rientjes
2010-06-02 13:54       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-02 21:23         ` David Rientjes
2010-06-03  0:05           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-03  6:44             ` David Rientjes
2010-06-03  3:07           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-03  6:48             ` David Rientjes [this message]
2010-06-03 23:15             ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-04 10:54               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01  7:18 ` [patch -mm 09/18] oom: add forkbomb penalty to badness heuristic David Rientjes
2010-06-01  7:37   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01 18:57     ` David Rientjes
2010-06-03 20:33       ` David Rientjes
2010-06-08 11:41   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 11:41   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01  7:18 ` [patch -mm 10/18] oom: deprecate oom_adj tunable David Rientjes
2010-06-01  7:37   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01  7:18 ` [patch -mm 11/18] oom: avoid oom killer for lowmem allocations David Rientjes
2010-06-01  7:38   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 11:41   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 18:38     ` David Rientjes
2010-06-01  7:18 ` [patch -mm 12/18] oom: remove unnecessary code and cleanup David Rientjes
2010-06-01  7:40   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01 18:58     ` David Rientjes
2010-06-01  7:19 ` [patch -mm 13/18] oom: avoid race for oom killed tasks detaching mm prior to exit David Rientjes
2010-06-01  7:40   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01 18:59     ` David Rientjes
2010-06-01 20:43       ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-01 21:19         ` David Rientjes
2010-06-02  0:28         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-02  9:49           ` David Rientjes
2010-06-02 10:46             ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-02 21:35               ` David Rientjes
2010-06-02 13:54         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01  7:19 ` [patch -mm 14/18] oom: check PF_KTHREAD instead of !mm to skip kthreads David Rientjes
2010-06-01  7:41   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01  7:19 ` [patch -mm 15/18] oom: introduce find_lock_task_mm() to fix !mm false positives David Rientjes
2010-06-01  7:41   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01  7:19 ` [patch -mm 16/18] oom: give current access to memory reserves if it has been killed David Rientjes
2010-06-01  7:44   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01  7:19 ` [patch -mm 17/18] oom: avoid sending exiting tasks a SIGKILL David Rientjes
2010-06-01  7:19 ` [patch -mm 18/18] oom: clean up oom_kill_task() David Rientjes

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