From: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com> To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> Cc: Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@mellanox.com>, Gilad Ben Yossef <giladb@mellanox.com>, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>, Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>, Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>, Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>, Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>, "linux-doc@vger.kernel.org" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>, Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>, "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org> Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 00/12] support "task_isolation" mode Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 19:42:50 -0500 (CDT) [thread overview] Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1607171937580.28225@east.gentwo.org> (raw) In-Reply-To: <CALCETrVddfd7ZDGpYs4CdkAMEmQCb6a-_5Um9bb4FO+XwWzOAA@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, 14 Jul 2016, Andy Lutomirski wrote: > As an example, enough vmalloc/vfree activity will eventually cause > flush_tlb_kernel_range to be called and *boom*, there goes your shiny > production dataplane application. Once virtually mapped kernel stacks > happen, the frequency with which this happens will only increase. But then vmalloc/vfre activity is not to be expected if user space only is running. Since the kernel is not active and this affects kernel address space only it could be deferred. Such events will cause OS activity that causes a number of high latency events but then the system will quiet down again. > On very brief inspection, __kmem_cache_shutdown will be a problem on > some workloads as well. These are all corner cases that can be worked on over time if they are significant. The main issue here is to reduce the obvious and relatively frequent causes for ticks and allow easier detection of events that cause tick activity.
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From: Christoph Lameter <cl-vYTEC60ixJUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> To: Andy Lutomirski <luto-kltTT9wpgjJwATOyAt5JVQ@public.gmane.org> Cc: Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>, Gilad Ben Yossef <giladb-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>, Steven Rostedt <rostedt-nx8X9YLhiw1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>, Peter Zijlstra <peterz-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>, Rik van Riel <riel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>, Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>, Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>, "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>, Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>, Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>, Will Deacon <will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>, Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>, "linux-doc-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org" <linux-doc-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>, Linux API <linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>, "linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org" <linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org> Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 00/12] support "task_isolation" mode Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 19:42:50 -0500 (CDT) [thread overview] Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1607171937580.28225@east.gentwo.org> (raw) In-Reply-To: <CALCETrVddfd7ZDGpYs4CdkAMEmQCb6a-_5Um9bb4FO+XwWzOAA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> On Thu, 14 Jul 2016, Andy Lutomirski wrote: > As an example, enough vmalloc/vfree activity will eventually cause > flush_tlb_kernel_range to be called and *boom*, there goes your shiny > production dataplane application. Once virtually mapped kernel stacks > happen, the frequency with which this happens will only increase. But then vmalloc/vfre activity is not to be expected if user space only is running. Since the kernel is not active and this affects kernel address space only it could be deferred. Such events will cause OS activity that causes a number of high latency events but then the system will quiet down again. > On very brief inspection, __kmem_cache_shutdown will be a problem on > some workloads as well. These are all corner cases that can be worked on over time if they are significant. The main issue here is to reduce the obvious and relatively frequent causes for ticks and allow easier detection of events that cause tick activity.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-07-18 0:42 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2016-07-14 20:48 [PATCH v13 00/12] support "task_isolation" mode Chris Metcalf 2016-07-14 20:48 ` [PATCH v13 01/12] vmstat: add quiet_vmstat_sync function Chris Metcalf 2016-07-14 20:48 ` [PATCH v13 02/12] vmstat: add vmstat_idle function Chris Metcalf 2016-07-14 20:48 ` Chris Metcalf 2016-07-14 20:48 ` [PATCH v13 03/12] lru_add_drain_all: factor out lru_add_drain_needed Chris Metcalf 2016-07-14 20:48 ` Chris Metcalf 2016-07-14 20:48 ` [PATCH v13 04/12] task_isolation: add initial support Chris Metcalf 2016-07-14 20:48 ` Chris Metcalf 2016-07-14 20:48 ` [PATCH v13 05/12] task_isolation: track asynchronous interrupts Chris Metcalf 2016-07-14 20:48 ` [PATCH v13 06/12] arch/x86: enable task isolation functionality Chris Metcalf 2016-07-14 20:48 ` [PATCH v13 07/12] arm64: factor work_pending state machine to C Chris Metcalf 2016-07-14 20:48 ` Chris Metcalf 2016-07-14 20:48 ` [PATCH v13 08/12] arch/arm64: enable task isolation functionality Chris Metcalf 2016-07-14 20:48 ` Chris Metcalf 2016-07-14 20:48 ` [PATCH v13 09/12] arch/tile: " Chris Metcalf 2016-07-14 20:48 ` [PATCH v13 10/12] arm, tile: turn off timer tick for oneshot_stopped state Chris Metcalf 2016-07-14 20:48 ` [PATCH v13 11/12] task_isolation: support CONFIG_TASK_ISOLATION_ALL Chris Metcalf 2016-07-14 20:48 ` [PATCH v13 12/12] task_isolation: add user-settable notification signal Chris Metcalf 2016-07-14 21:03 ` [PATCH v13 00/12] support "task_isolation" mode Andy Lutomirski 2016-07-14 21:03 ` Andy Lutomirski 2016-07-14 21:22 ` Chris Metcalf 2016-07-14 21:22 ` Chris Metcalf 2016-07-18 22:11 ` Andy Lutomirski 2016-07-18 22:50 ` Chris Metcalf 2016-07-18 0:42 ` Christoph Lameter [this message] 2016-07-18 0:42 ` Christoph Lameter 2016-07-21 2:04 ` Christoph Lameter 2016-07-21 2:04 ` Christoph Lameter 2016-07-21 14:06 ` Chris Metcalf 2016-07-21 14:06 ` Chris Metcalf 2016-07-22 2:20 ` Christoph Lameter 2016-07-22 12:50 ` Chris Metcalf 2016-07-22 12:50 ` Chris Metcalf 2016-07-25 16:35 ` Christoph Lameter 2016-07-27 13:55 ` clocksource_watchdog causing scheduling of timers every second (was [v13] support "task_isolation" mode) Christoph Lameter 2016-07-27 13:55 ` Christoph Lameter 2016-07-27 14:12 ` Chris Metcalf 2016-07-27 14:12 ` Chris Metcalf 2016-07-27 15:23 ` Christoph Lameter 2016-07-27 15:23 ` Christoph Lameter 2016-07-27 15:31 ` Christoph Lameter 2016-07-27 15:31 ` Christoph Lameter 2016-07-27 17:06 ` Chris Metcalf 2016-07-27 17:06 ` Chris Metcalf 2016-07-27 18:56 ` Christoph Lameter 2016-07-27 19:49 ` Chris Metcalf 2016-07-27 19:49 ` Chris Metcalf 2016-07-27 19:53 ` Christoph Lameter 2016-07-27 19:58 ` Chris Metcalf 2016-07-27 19:58 ` Chris Metcalf 2016-07-29 18:31 ` Francis Giraldeau 2016-07-29 18:31 ` Francis Giraldeau 2016-07-29 21:04 ` Chris Metcalf 2016-07-29 21:04 ` Chris Metcalf 2016-08-10 22:16 ` Frederic Weisbecker 2016-08-10 22:26 ` Chris Metcalf 2016-08-10 22:26 ` Chris Metcalf 2016-08-11 8:40 ` Peter Zijlstra 2016-08-11 11:58 ` Frederic Weisbecker 2016-08-15 15:03 ` Chris Metcalf 2016-08-15 15:03 ` Chris Metcalf 2016-08-11 16:00 ` Paul E. McKenney 2016-08-11 23:02 ` Christoph Lameter 2016-08-11 23:47 ` Paul E. McKenney 2016-08-12 14:23 ` Christoph Lameter 2016-08-12 14:26 ` Frederic Weisbecker 2016-08-12 14:26 ` Frederic Weisbecker 2016-08-12 16:19 ` Paul E. McKenney 2016-08-13 15:39 ` Frederic Weisbecker 2016-08-13 15:39 ` Frederic Weisbecker 2016-08-11 8:27 ` [PATCH v13 00/12] support "task_isolation" mode Peter Zijlstra 2016-07-27 14:01 ` Christoph Lameter
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