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From: Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>
To: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
Cc: Penny Zheng <Penny.Zheng@arm.com>,
	nd@arm.com,  Penny Zheng <penzhe01@a011292.shanghai.arm.com>,
	 Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	Julien Grall <julien@xen.org>,
	 Bertrand Marquis <bertrand.marquis@arm.com>,
	 Volodymyr Babchuk <Volodymyr_Babchuk@epam.com>,
	 Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	 George Dunlap <george.dunlap@citrix.com>, Wei Liu <wl@xen.org>,
	 xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 02/13] xen/arm: introduce a special domain DOMID_SHARED
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2022 15:20:25 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.22.394.2203181504140.2910984@ubuntu-linux-20-04-desktop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <eefa9cf2-a04c-ba8d-74cb-0d2aaa35badb@suse.com>

On Fri, 18 Mar 2022, Jan Beulich wrote:
> Further (there's no particularly good place to mention this) I'm
> afraid I don't view "shared" as a good name: It's not the domain
> which is shared, but it's the domain to hold shared memory.

To be honest I thought the same thing when reading this patch but
couldn't easily come up with a better name.


> For this
> my first consideration would be to see whether an existing special
> domain can be re-used; after all the set of reserved domain IDs is
> a very limited one, and hence each value taken from there should come
> with a very good reason. We did such re-use e.g. when introducing
> quarantining for PCI devices, by associating them with DOM_IO rather
> than inventing a new DOM_QUARANTINE. If there are good reasons
> speaking against such re-use, then I'd like to ask to consider e.g.
> DOMID_SHM / DOMID_SHMEM plus associated predicate.

From my point of view is totally fine to reuse one of the existing
special domains if we can.

DOMID_IO seems to be the closest match but its current definition
doesn't cover what Penny is trying to achieve. I am happy to change its
definition and make it wider to support this use-case too.

It is not trivial to come up with an appropriate description though. I
took a stab at it but I couldn't come up with anything better:

 * DOMID_IO is used for mapping memory and MMIO regions when no explicit
 * Domain need to be specified.
 *
 * For instance, DOMID_IO is the owner of memory pre-shared among
 * multiple domains at boot time, when no explicit owner is specified.
 *
 * Also, DOMID_IO is used to restrict page-table updates to mapping I/O
 * memory. Although no Foreign Domain need be specified to map I/O
 * pages, DOMID_IO is useful to ensure that no mappings to the OS's own
 * heap are accidentally installed. (e.g., in Linux this could cause
 * havoc as reference counts aren't adjusted on the I/O-mapping code
 * path). This only makes sense as HYPERVISOR_mmu_update()'s and
 * HYPERVISOR_update_va_mapping_otherdomain()'s "foreigndom" argument.
 * For HYPERVISOR_mmu_update() context it can be specified by any
 * calling domain, otherwise it's only permitted if the caller is
 * privileged.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-03-18 22:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-11  6:11 [PATCH v1 00/13] Static shared memory on dom0less system Penny Zheng
2022-03-11  6:11 ` [PATCH v1 01/13] xen/arm: introduce static shared memory Penny Zheng
2022-03-18  1:59   ` Stefano Stabellini
2022-03-11  6:11 ` [PATCH v1 02/13] xen/arm: introduce a special domain DOMID_SHARED Penny Zheng
2022-03-18  1:59   ` Stefano Stabellini
2022-03-18  6:43     ` Penny Zheng
2022-03-18 22:02       ` Stefano Stabellini
2022-03-18  8:53   ` Jan Beulich
2022-03-18 21:50     ` Stefano Stabellini
2022-03-21  8:48       ` Jan Beulich
2022-03-21 20:03         ` Stefano Stabellini
2022-04-09  9:11           ` Julien Grall
2022-04-15  8:08             ` Penny Zheng
2022-04-15 22:18               ` Stefano Stabellini
2022-04-15 23:45                 ` Julien Grall
2022-03-18 22:20     ` Stefano Stabellini [this message]
2022-04-15  9:52     ` Penny Zheng
2022-04-15 23:34       ` Julien Grall
2022-04-19  8:10       ` Jan Beulich
2022-03-11  6:11 ` [PATCH v1 03/13] xen/arm: allocate static shared memory to dom_shared Penny Zheng
2022-03-18  1:59   ` Stefano Stabellini
2022-03-18  8:35     ` Penny Zheng
2022-03-18 22:27       ` Stefano Stabellini
2022-03-11  6:11 ` [PATCH v1 04/13] xen/arm: add P2M type parameter in guest_physmap_add_pages Penny Zheng
2022-03-11  6:11 ` [PATCH v1 05/13] xen/arm: introduce get_pages_from_gfn Penny Zheng
2022-03-11  6:11 ` [PATCH v1 06/13] xen/arm: set up shared memory foreign mapping for borrower domain Penny Zheng
2022-03-18  2:00   ` Stefano Stabellini
2022-03-29  3:44     ` Penny Zheng
2022-04-08 22:18       ` Stefano Stabellini
2022-04-08 22:50         ` Julien Grall
2022-04-08 23:18           ` Stefano Stabellini
2022-04-08 22:59   ` Julien Grall
2022-04-09  9:30     ` Julien Grall
2022-04-20  8:53       ` Penny Zheng
2022-04-20  8:51     ` Penny Zheng
2022-03-11  6:11 ` [PATCH v1 07/13] xen/arm: create shared memory nodes in guest device tree Penny Zheng
2022-03-18  2:00   ` Stefano Stabellini
2022-03-11  6:11 ` [PATCH v1 08/13] xen/arm: destroy static shared memory when de-construct domain Penny Zheng
2022-04-09  9:25   ` Julien Grall
2022-04-21  7:00     ` Penny Zheng
2022-03-11  6:11 ` [PATCH v1 09/13] xen/arm: enable statically shared memory on Dom0 Penny Zheng
2022-03-11  6:11 ` [PATCH v1 10/13] xen/arm: allocate static shared memory to a specific owner domain Penny Zheng
2022-03-18  2:00   ` Stefano Stabellini
2022-03-11  6:11 ` [PATCH v1 11/13] xen/arm: store shm-info for deferred foreign memory map Penny Zheng
2022-03-18  2:01   ` Stefano Stabellini
2022-03-29  8:37     ` Penny Zheng
2022-04-08 22:46       ` Stefano Stabellini
2022-04-09  9:14         ` Julien Grall
2022-03-11  6:11 ` [PATCH v1 12/13] xen/arm: defer foreign memory map in shm_init_late Penny Zheng
2022-03-11  6:11 ` [PATCH v1 13/13] xen/arm: unmap foreign memory mapping when destroyed domain is owner domain Penny Zheng
2022-04-09  9:44   ` Julien Grall

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