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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov <dbaryshkov@gmail.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Make GFP_DMA allocations w/o ZONE_DMA emit a warning instead of failing
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 21:46:37 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.02.1106012134120.3078@ionos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1106011205410.17065@chino.kir.corp.google.com>

On Wed, 1 Jun 2011, David Rientjes wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Jun 2011, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> 
> > > That is NOT an unreasonable request, but it seems that its far too much
> > > to ask of you.
> > 
> > Full ack.
> > 
> > David,
> > 
> > stop that nonsense already. You changed the behaviour and broke stuff
> > which was working fine before for whatever reason. That behaviour was
> > in the kernel for ages and we tolerated the abuse.
> > 
> 
> Did I nack this patch and not realize it?

No, you did not realize anything.
 
> Does my patch fix the warning for pxaficp_ir that would still be emitted 
> with this patch?  If the driver uses GFP_DMA and nobody from the arm side 

Your patch does not fix anything. It papers over the problem and
that's the f@&^%%@^#ing wrong approach.

And just to be clear. You CANNOT fix a warning. You can fix the code
which causes the warning, but that's not what your patch is
doing. Your patch HIDES the problem.

> is prepared to remove it yet, then I'd suggest merging my patch until that 
> can be determined.  Otherwise, you have no guarantees about where the 
> memory is actually coming from.

Did you actually try to understand what I wrote? 

You decided that it's a BUG just because it should not be allowed. So
you changed the behaviour, which was perfectly fine before.

Now you try to paper over the problem by selecting ZONE_DMA and refuse
to give a grace period of _ONE_ kernel release.

IOW, you are preventing that the abusers of GFP_DMA are fixed
properly.

I can see that you neither have the bandwidth nor the knowledge to
analyse each user of GFP_DMA. And that should tell you something.

If you cannot fix it yourself, then f*(&!@$#ng not break it.

Thanks,

	tglx



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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov <dbaryshkov@gmail.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Make GFP_DMA allocations w/o ZONE_DMA emit a warning instead of failing
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 21:46:37 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.02.1106012134120.3078@ionos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1106011205410.17065@chino.kir.corp.google.com>

On Wed, 1 Jun 2011, David Rientjes wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Jun 2011, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> 
> > > That is NOT an unreasonable request, but it seems that its far too much
> > > to ask of you.
> > 
> > Full ack.
> > 
> > David,
> > 
> > stop that nonsense already. You changed the behaviour and broke stuff
> > which was working fine before for whatever reason. That behaviour was
> > in the kernel for ages and we tolerated the abuse.
> > 
> 
> Did I nack this patch and not realize it?

No, you did not realize anything.
 
> Does my patch fix the warning for pxaficp_ir that would still be emitted 
> with this patch?  If the driver uses GFP_DMA and nobody from the arm side 

Your patch does not fix anything. It papers over the problem and
that's the f@&^%%@^#ing wrong approach.

And just to be clear. You CANNOT fix a warning. You can fix the code
which causes the warning, but that's not what your patch is
doing. Your patch HIDES the problem.

> is prepared to remove it yet, then I'd suggest merging my patch until that 
> can be determined.  Otherwise, you have no guarantees about where the 
> memory is actually coming from.

Did you actually try to understand what I wrote? 

You decided that it's a BUG just because it should not be allowed. So
you changed the behaviour, which was perfectly fine before.

Now you try to paper over the problem by selecting ZONE_DMA and refuse
to give a grace period of _ONE_ kernel release.

IOW, you are preventing that the abusers of GFP_DMA are fixed
properly.

I can see that you neither have the bandwidth nor the knowledge to
analyse each user of GFP_DMA. And that should tell you something.

If you cannot fix it yourself, then f*(&!@$#ng not break it.

Thanks,

	tglx


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  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-01 19:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-01 10:04 [PATCH] Make GFP_DMA allocations w/o ZONE_DMA emit a warning instead of failing Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
2011-06-01 10:04 ` Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
2011-06-01 12:38 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-06-01 12:38   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-06-01 15:07   ` Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
2011-06-01 15:07     ` Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
2011-06-01 17:23     ` David Rientjes
2011-06-01 17:23       ` David Rientjes
2011-06-01 18:19       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-01 18:19         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-01 18:55         ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-06-01 18:55           ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-06-01 19:09           ` David Rientjes
2011-06-01 19:09             ` David Rientjes
2011-06-01 19:46             ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2011-06-01 19:46               ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-06-10  7:38               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-06-10  7:38                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-06-10  7:43                 ` Andrew Morton
2011-06-10  7:43                   ` Andrew Morton
2011-06-10  7:52                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-06-10  7:52                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-06-10  8:11                   ` Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
2011-06-10  8:11                     ` Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
2011-06-10  9:12                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-10  9:12                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-10 18:54                       ` David Rientjes
2011-06-10 18:54                         ` David Rientjes
2011-06-10 18:58                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-10 18:58                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-10 22:01                           ` David Rientjes
2011-06-10 22:01                             ` David Rientjes
2011-06-10 22:07                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-10 22:07                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-10 22:16                               ` David Rientjes
2011-06-10 22:16                                 ` David Rientjes
2011-06-10 22:20                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-10 22:20                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-10 22:30                                   ` David Rientjes
2011-06-10 22:30                                     ` David Rientjes
2011-06-11  9:45                                     ` Catalin Marinas
2011-06-11  9:45                                       ` Catalin Marinas
2011-06-11 17:18                                       ` Robert Hancock
2011-06-11 17:18                                         ` Robert Hancock
2011-06-12 13:48                                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-12 13:48                                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-01 18:30       ` Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
2011-06-01 18:30         ` Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
2011-06-01 18:42         ` David Rientjes
2011-06-01 18:42           ` David Rientjes
2011-06-02 21:46   ` Pavel Machek
2011-06-02 21:46     ` Pavel Machek
2011-06-12 11:07     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-12 11:07       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-12 11:33       ` Cyril Hrubis
2011-06-12 11:33         ` Cyril Hrubis
2011-06-12 11:39         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-12 11:39           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-10 22:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-06-10 22:24   ` Linus Torvalds

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