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From: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger@dilger.ca>,
	John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] vmalloc: respect the GFP_NOIO and GFP_NOFS flags
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2017 20:36:12 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.2.02.1706302033230.13879@file01.intranet.prod.int.rdu2.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170630204059.GA17255@dhcp22.suse.cz>



On Fri, 30 Jun 2017, Michal Hocko wrote:

> On Fri 30-06-17 14:11:57, Mikulas Patocka wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, 30 Jun 2017, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > 
> > > On Thu 29-06-17 22:25:09, Mikulas Patocka wrote:
> > > > The __vmalloc function has a parameter gfp_mask with the allocation flags,
> > > > however it doesn't fully respect the GFP_NOIO and GFP_NOFS flags. The
> > > > pages are allocated with the specified gfp flags, but the pagetables are
> > > > always allocated with GFP_KERNEL. This allocation can cause unexpected
> > > > recursion into the filesystem or I/O subsystem.
> > > > 
> > > > It is not practical to extend page table allocation routines with gfp
> > > > flags because it would require modification of architecture-specific code
> > > > in all architecturs. However, the process can temporarily request that all
> > > > allocations are done with GFP_NOFS or GFP_NOIO with with the functions
> > > > memalloc_nofs_save and memalloc_noio_save.
> > > > 
> > > > This patch makes the vmalloc code use memalloc_nofs_save or
> > > > memalloc_noio_save if the supplied gfp flags do not contain __GFP_FS or
> > > > __GFP_IO. It fixes some possible deadlocks in drivers/mtd/ubi/io.c,
> > > > fs/gfs2/, fs/btrfs/free-space-tree.c, fs/ubifs/,
> > > > fs/nfs/blocklayout/extent_tree.c where __vmalloc is used with the GFP_NOFS
> > > > flag.
> > > 
> > > I strongly believe this is a step in the _wrong_ direction. Why? Because
> > 
> > What do you think __vmalloc with GFP_NOIO should do? Print a warning? 
> > Silently ignore the GFP_NOIO flag?
> 
> I think noio users are not that much different from nofs users. Simply
> use the scope API at the place where the scope starts and document why
> it is needed. vmalloc calls do not have to be any special then and they
> do not even have to think about proper gfp flags and they can use
> whatever is the default.
> -- 
> Michal Hocko
> SUSE Labs

But you didn't answer the question - what should __vmalloc with GFP_NOIO 
(or GFP_NOFS) do? Silently drop the flag? Print a warning? Or respect the 
flag?

Currently, it silently drops the GFP_NOIO or GFP_NOFS flag, but some 
programmers don't know it and use these flags. You can't blame those 
programmers for not knowing it.

Mikulas

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From: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger@dilger.ca>,
	John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] vmalloc: respect the GFP_NOIO and GFP_NOFS flags
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2017 20:36:12 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.2.02.1706302033230.13879@file01.intranet.prod.int.rdu2.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170630204059.GA17255@dhcp22.suse.cz>



On Fri, 30 Jun 2017, Michal Hocko wrote:

> On Fri 30-06-17 14:11:57, Mikulas Patocka wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, 30 Jun 2017, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > 
> > > On Thu 29-06-17 22:25:09, Mikulas Patocka wrote:
> > > > The __vmalloc function has a parameter gfp_mask with the allocation flags,
> > > > however it doesn't fully respect the GFP_NOIO and GFP_NOFS flags. The
> > > > pages are allocated with the specified gfp flags, but the pagetables are
> > > > always allocated with GFP_KERNEL. This allocation can cause unexpected
> > > > recursion into the filesystem or I/O subsystem.
> > > > 
> > > > It is not practical to extend page table allocation routines with gfp
> > > > flags because it would require modification of architecture-specific code
> > > > in all architecturs. However, the process can temporarily request that all
> > > > allocations are done with GFP_NOFS or GFP_NOIO with with the functions
> > > > memalloc_nofs_save and memalloc_noio_save.
> > > > 
> > > > This patch makes the vmalloc code use memalloc_nofs_save or
> > > > memalloc_noio_save if the supplied gfp flags do not contain __GFP_FS or
> > > > __GFP_IO. It fixes some possible deadlocks in drivers/mtd/ubi/io.c,
> > > > fs/gfs2/, fs/btrfs/free-space-tree.c, fs/ubifs/,
> > > > fs/nfs/blocklayout/extent_tree.c where __vmalloc is used with the GFP_NOFS
> > > > flag.
> > > 
> > > I strongly believe this is a step in the _wrong_ direction. Why? Because
> > 
> > What do you think __vmalloc with GFP_NOIO should do? Print a warning? 
> > Silently ignore the GFP_NOIO flag?
> 
> I think noio users are not that much different from nofs users. Simply
> use the scope API at the place where the scope starts and document why
> it is needed. vmalloc calls do not have to be any special then and they
> do not even have to think about proper gfp flags and they can use
> whatever is the default.
> -- 
> Michal Hocko
> SUSE Labs

But you didn't answer the question - what should __vmalloc with GFP_NOIO 
(or GFP_NOFS) do? Silently drop the flag? Print a warning? Or respect the 
flag?

Currently, it silently drops the GFP_NOIO or GFP_NOFS flag, but some 
programmers don't know it and use these flags. You can't blame those 
programmers for not knowing it.

Mikulas

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-01  0:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-30  2:25 [PATCH] vmalloc: respect the GFP_NOIO and GFP_NOFS flags Mikulas Patocka
2017-06-30  2:25 ` Mikulas Patocka
2017-06-30  6:20 ` John Hubbard
2017-06-30  6:20   ` John Hubbard
2017-06-30  6:20   ` John Hubbard
2017-06-30  8:12 ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-30  8:12   ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-30 18:11   ` Mikulas Patocka
2017-06-30 18:11     ` Mikulas Patocka
2017-06-30 20:41     ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-30 20:41       ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-01  0:36       ` Mikulas Patocka [this message]
2017-07-01  0:36         ` Mikulas Patocka
2017-07-03  6:31         ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-03  6:31           ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-03 22:57           ` Mikulas Patocka
2017-07-03 22:57             ` Mikulas Patocka
2017-07-04  8:10             ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-04  8:10               ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-01  3:25 ` Andreas Dilger
2017-07-01  4:49   ` Mikulas Patocka
2017-07-01  4:49     ` Mikulas Patocka

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