From: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@medozas.de>
To: "Jörn Engel" <joern@logfs.org>
Cc: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@gmail.com>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Martin Steigerwald <Martin@lichtvoll.de>,
David Newall <davidn@davidnewall.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
tridge@samba.org, Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
john.lanza@linux.com,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
Dave Kleikamp <shaggy@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
jcm@jonmasters.org
Subject: Re: CONFIG_VFAT_FS_DUALNAMES regressions
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:27:09 +0200 (CEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LSU.2.00.0907121324340.13127@fbirervta.pbzchgretzou.qr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090712112114.GA3059@logfs.org>
On Sunday 2009-07-12 13:21, Jörn Engel wrote:
>[ Ignoring all legal and moral aspects...]
>
>On Fri, 10 July 2009 22:40:14 +0200, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote:
>>
>> Microsoft having patents on their *obsolete* filesystem should be *their*
>
>FAT is far from obsolete. It is practically always the filesystem of
>choice and often the only filesystem when trying to move data from one
>system to another. The next best alternatives are isofs and ext2. And
>I don't know a single digital camera, mp3 player or cellphone that
>speaks either.
The next best would probably be UDF, which is already used on DVDs
and thus is implemented in a number of devices - though probably
only disc-reading ones.
There's your market hole, dear vendors.
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@medozas.de>
To: "Jörn Engel" <joern@logfs.org>
Cc: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@gmail.com>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Martin Steigerwald <Martin@lichtvoll.de>,
David Newall <davidn@davidnewall.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
tridge@samba.org, Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
john.lanza@linux.com,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
Dave Kleikamp <shaggy@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
jcm@jonmasters.org
Subject: Re: CONFIG_VFAT_FS_DUALNAMES regressions
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:27:09 +0200 (CEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LSU.2.00.0907121324340.13127@fbirervta.pbzchgretzou.qr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090712112114.GA3059@logfs.org>
On Sunday 2009-07-12 13:21, Jörn Engel wrote:
>[ Ignoring all legal and moral aspects...]
>
>On Fri, 10 July 2009 22:40:14 +0200, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote:
>>
>> Microsoft having patents on their *obsolete* filesystem should be *their*
>
>FAT is far from obsolete. It is practically always the filesystem of
>choice and often the only filesystem when trying to move data from one
>system to another. The next best alternatives are isofs and ext2. And
>I don't know a single digital camera, mp3 player or cellphone that
>speaks either.
The next best would probably be UDF, which is already used on DVDs
and thus is implemented in a number of devices - though probably
only disc-reading ones.
There's your market hole, dear vendors.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-07-12 11:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 210+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-06-26 19:19 [PATCH] Added CONFIG_VFAT_FS_DUALNAMES option tridge
2009-06-26 21:40 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-06-26 22:21 ` tridge
2009-06-27 1:48 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-06-27 17:26 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-06-27 1:56 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-06-27 17:21 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-06-28 2:59 ` tridge
2009-06-28 21:57 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-28 22:02 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-06-28 22:05 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-29 1:23 ` tridge
2009-06-28 1:54 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-28 2:19 ` tridge
2009-06-28 4:10 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-28 5:38 ` tridge
2009-06-28 6:25 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-06-28 19:51 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-28 20:13 ` James Bottomley
2009-06-28 20:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-28 21:45 ` James Bottomley
2009-06-28 21:28 ` tridge
2009-06-29 1:30 ` tridge
2009-06-29 22:18 ` Greg KH
2009-06-29 22:42 ` tridge
2009-06-29 22:52 ` Greg KH
2009-06-29 23:36 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-06-29 23:51 ` tridge
2009-06-30 0:55 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-06-30 6:31 ` Pavel Machek
2009-07-01 10:09 ` Alan Cox
2009-07-01 11:11 ` tridge
2009-07-01 11:34 ` Alan Cox
2009-07-01 10:49 ` Rusty Russell
2009-07-01 11:25 ` Alan Cox
2009-07-01 14:05 ` Theodore Tso
2009-07-01 14:17 ` Alan Cox
2009-07-02 1:42 ` tridge
2009-07-02 10:33 ` Alan Cox
2009-07-02 12:43 ` tridge
2009-07-02 21:49 ` Pavel Machek
2009-07-06 19:57 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-01 16:18 ` Stefan Richter
2009-07-01 16:18 ` Stefan Richter
2009-07-02 23:17 ` CONFIG_VFAT_FS_DUALNAMES regression Jan Engelhardt
2009-07-02 23:17 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-07-02 23:37 ` tridge
2009-07-03 0:11 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-07-03 0:11 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-07-03 0:25 ` tridge
2009-07-03 1:10 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-07-03 1:10 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-07-03 1:26 ` tridge
2009-07-03 1:58 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-07-11 0:14 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-02 23:46 ` CONFIG_VFAT_FS_DUALNAMES regressions Jan Engelhardt
2009-07-02 23:46 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-07-03 0:14 ` tridge
2009-07-03 0:58 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-07-03 1:11 ` tridge
2009-07-03 1:50 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-07-03 1:50 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-07-03 1:59 ` tridge
2009-07-03 2:09 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-07-03 2:09 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-07-03 3:25 ` tridge
2009-07-03 6:46 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-07-03 9:40 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-07-03 9:40 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-07-03 12:24 ` tridge
2009-07-04 3:09 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-07-06 11:40 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-07-06 13:05 ` tridge
2009-07-06 16:17 ` David Newall
2009-07-06 16:17 ` David Newall
2009-07-06 19:33 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-06 18:55 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-07-06 20:26 ` tridge
2009-07-06 20:42 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-07-06 20:42 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-07-08 7:31 ` tridge
2009-07-06 20:36 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-07-06 20:58 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-06 21:08 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-07-06 22:24 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-07 9:36 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-07-07 0:21 ` tridge
2009-07-07 21:56 ` Martin Steigerwald
2009-07-07 22:09 ` Martin Steigerwald
2009-07-08 3:12 ` tridge
2009-07-08 10:04 ` Alan Cox
2009-07-08 10:48 ` tridge
2009-07-08 12:02 ` Alan Cox
2009-07-08 13:02 ` tridge
2009-07-08 13:25 ` Alan Cox
2009-07-09 1:20 ` tridge
2009-07-09 9:42 ` Alan Cox
2009-07-09 13:59 ` James Bottomley
2009-07-09 14:10 ` Alan Cox
2009-07-09 15:25 ` Theodore Tso
2009-07-09 17:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-07-09 20:57 ` David Newall
2009-07-09 22:23 ` Martin Steigerwald
2009-07-10 1:45 ` David Newall
2009-07-10 18:49 ` Martin Steigerwald
2009-07-10 19:31 ` Jonathan Corbet
2009-07-10 20:40 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-07-12 11:21 ` Jörn Engel
2009-07-12 11:21 ` Jörn Engel
2009-07-12 11:27 ` Jan Engelhardt [this message]
2009-07-12 11:27 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-07-13 22:20 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-13 22:20 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-13 22:32 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-07-10 21:14 ` Alan Cox
2009-07-12 8:52 ` David Newall
2009-07-10 0:09 ` Alan Cox
2009-07-08 12:23 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-07-08 15:27 ` James Bottomley
2009-07-08 15:37 ` Alan Cox
2009-07-08 16:06 ` James Bottomley
2009-07-08 16:18 ` Alan Cox
2009-07-09 4:25 ` tridge
2009-07-09 5:27 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-07-09 7:21 ` Pavel Machek
2009-07-09 7:34 ` David Newall
2009-07-09 9:51 ` Alan Cox
2009-07-09 4:53 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-07-09 9:53 ` Alan Cox
2009-07-12 19:39 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-07-21 3:37 ` tridge
2009-07-21 9:16 ` Boaz Harrosh
2009-07-21 10:31 ` Pavel Machek
2009-07-21 13:24 ` tridge
2009-07-21 15:08 ` John Lanza
2009-07-21 15:08 ` John Lanza
2009-07-21 19:36 ` John Lanza
2009-07-21 19:36 ` John Lanza
2009-07-21 21:37 ` Pavel Machek
2009-07-21 22:38 ` tridge
2009-07-21 10:44 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-07-21 13:04 ` tridge
2009-07-21 15:06 ` John Lanza
2009-07-21 19:38 ` John Lanza
2009-07-21 19:38 ` John Lanza
2009-07-21 10:31 ` Pavel Machek
2009-07-21 13:19 ` tridge
2009-08-08 12:19 ` Pavel Machek
2009-07-08 11:39 ` Martin Steigerwald
2009-07-08 13:53 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-08 17:12 ` Jeremy Allison
2009-07-09 3:23 ` tridge
2009-07-09 13:34 ` Martin Steigerwald
2009-07-09 4:13 ` tridge
2009-07-09 19:47 ` Martin Steigerwald
2009-07-10 7:36 ` Pavel Machek
2009-07-10 21:12 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-10 21:28 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-11 2:03 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-07 19:51 ` Pavel Machek
2009-07-08 7:42 ` tridge
2009-07-08 10:27 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-07-09 2:23 ` tridge
2009-07-09 8:24 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-07-10 7:35 ` Pavel Machek
2009-07-06 20:04 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-08 7:30 ` tridge
2009-07-10 21:44 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-02 0:34 ` [PATCH] Added CONFIG_VFAT_FS_DUALNAMES option Rusty Russell
2009-07-02 21:46 ` Pavel Machek
2009-07-02 22:06 ` tridge
2009-07-02 22:33 ` Pavel Machek
2009-07-02 22:41 ` tridge
2009-07-02 22:44 ` Pavel Machek
2009-07-02 23:59 ` tridge
2009-07-08 9:21 ` Pavel Machek
2009-07-08 14:25 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-07-08 21:42 ` tridge
2009-07-08 22:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-07-08 23:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-07-08 16:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-07-03 0:03 ` Rusty Russell
2009-07-02 23:55 ` Rusty Russell
2009-07-01 10:50 ` tridge
2009-07-01 11:31 ` Alan Cox
2009-07-01 13:16 ` tridge
2009-07-01 13:38 ` Alan Cox
2009-07-01 14:02 ` tridge
2009-07-01 14:41 ` Alan Cox
2009-07-02 4:04 ` tridge
2009-07-02 10:32 ` Alan Cox
2009-07-02 12:38 ` tridge
2009-07-02 16:56 ` Alan Cox
2009-07-03 2:50 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-07-02 14:56 ` James Bottomley
2009-07-02 15:27 ` Theodore Tso
2009-07-02 18:12 ` Alan Cox
2009-07-02 21:25 ` James Bottomley
2009-07-01 11:48 ` Boaz Harrosh
2009-07-01 12:28 ` tridge
2009-07-01 15:44 ` James Bottomley
2009-07-02 22:03 ` Pavel Machek
2009-07-06 20:41 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-07 10:02 ` Boaz Harrosh
2009-07-07 11:25 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-07 11:48 ` Boaz Harrosh
2009-07-07 11:50 ` tridge
2009-07-02 22:00 ` Pavel Machek
2009-07-02 22:23 ` tridge
2009-07-02 22:41 ` Pavel Machek
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