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From: Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe.brucker@arm.com>
To: Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@linux.intel.com>
Cc: "iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
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	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Rafael Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	"Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com>,
	"Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	Raj Ashok <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
	Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
	"Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@linux.intel.com>,
	"Liu@ostrya.localdomain" <Liu@ostrya.localdomain>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 05/22] iommu: introduce iommu invalidate API function
Date: Wed, 2 May 2018 10:31:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b12bcd35-9472-83ed-a26f-e5be3794e2d2@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180501155838.4ec3720c@jacob-builder>

On 01/05/18 23:58, Jacob Pan wrote:
>>>> Maybe this should be called "NG_PAGE_PASID",  
>>> Sure. I was thinking page range already implies non-global pages.  
>>>> and "DOMAIN_PAGE" should
>>>> instead be "PAGE_PASID". If I understood their meaning correctly,
>>>> it would be more consistent with the rest.
>>>>  
>>> I am trying not to mix granu between request w/ PASID and w/o.
>>> DOMAIN_PAGE meant to be for request w/o PASID.  
>>
>> Is the distinction necessary? I understand the IOMMU side might offer
>> many possibilities for invalidation, but the user probably doesn't
>> need all of them. It might be easier to document, upstream and
>> maintain if we only specify what's currently needed by users (what
>> does QEMU VT-d use?) Others can always extend it by increasing the
>> version.
>>
>> Do you think that this invalidation message will be used outside of
>> BIND_PASID_TABLE context? I can't see an other use but who knows. At
>> the moment requests w/o PASID are managed with
>> VFIO_IOMMU_MAP/UNMAP_DMA, which doesn't require invalidation. And in
>> a BIND_PASID_TABLE context, IOMMUs requests w/o PASID are just a
>> special case using PASID 0 (for Arm and AMD) so I suppose they'll use
>> the same invalidation commands as requests w/ PASID.
>>
> My understanding is that for GIOVA use case, VT-d vIOMMU creates
> GIOVA-GPA mapping and the host shadows the 2nd level page tables to
> create GIOVA-HPA mapping. So when assigned device in the guest can do
> both DMA map/unmap and VFIO map/unmap, VFIO unmap is one time deal
> (I guess invalidation can be captured in other code path), but guest
> kernel use of DMA unmap could will trigger invalidation. QEMU needs to
> trap those invalidation and passdown to physical IOMMU. So we do need
> invalidation w/o PASID.

Hm, isn't this all done by host userspace? Whether guest does DMA
map/unmap or VFIO map/unmap, it creates/removes IOVA-GPA mappings in the
vIOMMU. QEMU captures invalidation requests for these mappings from the
guest, finds GPA-HVA in the shadow map and sends a VFIO map/unmap
request for IOVA-HVA.

Thanks,
Jean

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From: Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe.brucker-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
To: Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Liu-U/l+663ovUtSq9BJjBFyUp/QNRX+jHPU@public.gmane.org"
	<Liu-U/l+663ovUtSq9BJjBFyUp/QNRX+jHPU@public.gmane.org>,
	"Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>,
	Raj Ashok <ashok.raj-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman
	<gregkh-hQyY1W1yCW8ekmWlsbkhG0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>,
	Rafael Wysocki
	<rafael.j.wysocki-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	"iommu-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org"
	<iommu-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Jean Delvare <khali-PUYAD+kWke1g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 05/22] iommu: introduce iommu invalidate API function
Date: Wed, 2 May 2018 10:31:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b12bcd35-9472-83ed-a26f-e5be3794e2d2@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180501155838.4ec3720c@jacob-builder>

On 01/05/18 23:58, Jacob Pan wrote:
>>>> Maybe this should be called "NG_PAGE_PASID",  
>>> Sure. I was thinking page range already implies non-global pages.  
>>>> and "DOMAIN_PAGE" should
>>>> instead be "PAGE_PASID". If I understood their meaning correctly,
>>>> it would be more consistent with the rest.
>>>>  
>>> I am trying not to mix granu between request w/ PASID and w/o.
>>> DOMAIN_PAGE meant to be for request w/o PASID.  
>>
>> Is the distinction necessary? I understand the IOMMU side might offer
>> many possibilities for invalidation, but the user probably doesn't
>> need all of them. It might be easier to document, upstream and
>> maintain if we only specify what's currently needed by users (what
>> does QEMU VT-d use?) Others can always extend it by increasing the
>> version.
>>
>> Do you think that this invalidation message will be used outside of
>> BIND_PASID_TABLE context? I can't see an other use but who knows. At
>> the moment requests w/o PASID are managed with
>> VFIO_IOMMU_MAP/UNMAP_DMA, which doesn't require invalidation. And in
>> a BIND_PASID_TABLE context, IOMMUs requests w/o PASID are just a
>> special case using PASID 0 (for Arm and AMD) so I suppose they'll use
>> the same invalidation commands as requests w/ PASID.
>>
> My understanding is that for GIOVA use case, VT-d vIOMMU creates
> GIOVA-GPA mapping and the host shadows the 2nd level page tables to
> create GIOVA-HPA mapping. So when assigned device in the guest can do
> both DMA map/unmap and VFIO map/unmap, VFIO unmap is one time deal
> (I guess invalidation can be captured in other code path), but guest
> kernel use of DMA unmap could will trigger invalidation. QEMU needs to
> trap those invalidation and passdown to physical IOMMU. So we do need
> invalidation w/o PASID.

Hm, isn't this all done by host userspace? Whether guest does DMA
map/unmap or VFIO map/unmap, it creates/removes IOVA-GPA mappings in the
vIOMMU. QEMU captures invalidation requests for these mappings from the
guest, finds GPA-HVA in the shadow map and sends a VFIO map/unmap
request for IOVA-HVA.

Thanks,
Jean

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-02  9:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 130+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-16 21:48 [PATCH v4 00/22] IOMMU and VT-d driver support for Shared Virtual Address (SVA) Jacob Pan
2018-04-16 21:48 ` Jacob Pan
2018-04-16 21:48 ` [PATCH v4 01/22] iommu: introduce bind_pasid_table API function Jacob Pan
2018-04-16 21:48   ` Jacob Pan
2018-04-16 21:48 ` [PATCH v4 02/22] iommu/vt-d: move device_domain_info to header Jacob Pan
2018-04-16 21:48   ` Jacob Pan
2018-04-16 21:48 ` [PATCH v4 03/22] iommu/vt-d: add a flag for pasid table bound status Jacob Pan
2018-04-16 21:48   ` Jacob Pan
2018-04-16 21:48 ` [PATCH v4 04/22] iommu/vt-d: add bind_pasid_table function Jacob Pan
2018-04-16 21:48   ` Jacob Pan
2018-04-17 19:10   ` Alex Williamson
2018-04-17 19:10     ` Alex Williamson
2018-04-20 18:25     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-04-20 18:25       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-04-20 23:42       ` Jacob Pan
2018-04-20 23:42         ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-29 20:09         ` Alex Williamson
2018-05-29 20:09           ` Alex Williamson
2018-05-30  1:41           ` Tian, Kevin
2018-05-30  1:41             ` Tian, Kevin
2018-05-30  3:17             ` Alex Williamson
2018-05-30  3:17               ` Alex Williamson
2018-05-30  3:45               ` Tian, Kevin
2018-05-30  3:45                 ` Tian, Kevin
2018-05-30 11:53                 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-30 11:53                   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-30 19:52                   ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-30 19:52                     ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-31  9:09                     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-31  9:09                       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-06-05 17:32                       ` Jacob Pan
2018-06-06 11:20                         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-06-06 11:20                           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-06-06 21:22                           ` Jacob Pan
2018-06-07 13:21                             ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-04-20 23:22     ` Jacob Pan
2018-04-20 23:22       ` Jacob Pan
2018-04-16 21:48 ` [PATCH v4 05/22] iommu: introduce iommu invalidate API function Jacob Pan
2018-04-16 21:48   ` Jacob Pan
2018-04-20 18:19   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-04-20 18:19     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-04-23 20:43     ` Jacob Pan
2018-04-23 20:43       ` Jacob Pan
2018-04-27 18:07       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-04-27 18:07         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-04-28  2:41         ` Tian, Kevin
2018-04-28  2:41           ` Tian, Kevin
2018-05-01 22:58         ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-01 22:58           ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-02  9:31           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker [this message]
2018-05-02  9:31             ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-04  4:46             ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-04  4:46               ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-04 18:07               ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-04 18:07                 ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-08 10:35                 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-08 10:35                   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-09 12:55                   ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-09 12:55                     ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-05 22:19   ` Jerry Snitselaar
2018-05-05 22:19     ` Jerry Snitselaar
2018-05-07 15:41     ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-07 15:41       ` Jacob Pan
2018-04-16 21:48 ` [PATCH v4 06/22] iommu/vt-d: add definitions for PFSID Jacob Pan
2018-04-16 21:48   ` Jacob Pan
2018-04-16 21:48 ` [PATCH v4 07/22] iommu/vt-d: fix dev iotlb pfsid use Jacob Pan
2018-04-16 21:48   ` Jacob Pan
2018-04-16 21:48 ` [PATCH v4 08/22] iommu/vt-d: support flushing more translation cache types Jacob Pan
2018-04-16 21:48   ` Jacob Pan
2018-04-16 21:48 ` [PATCH v4 09/22] iommu/vt-d: add svm/sva invalidate function Jacob Pan
2018-04-16 21:48   ` Jacob Pan
2018-04-17 19:10   ` Alex Williamson
2018-04-17 19:10     ` Alex Williamson
2018-04-20 22:36     ` Jacob Pan
2018-04-20 22:36       ` Jacob Pan
2018-04-16 21:48 ` [PATCH v4 10/22] iommu: introduce device fault data Jacob Pan
2018-04-16 21:48   ` Jacob Pan
2018-04-23 10:11   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-04-23 10:11     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-04-23 11:54     ` Jacob Pan
2018-04-23 11:54       ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-20  8:17   ` Liu, Yi L
2018-05-21 23:16     ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-21 23:16       ` Jacob Pan
2018-04-16 21:49 ` [PATCH v4 11/22] driver core: add per device iommu param Jacob Pan
2018-04-16 21:49   ` Jacob Pan
2018-04-23 10:26   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-04-23 10:26     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-04-16 21:49 ` [PATCH v4 12/22] iommu: introduce device fault report API Jacob Pan
2018-04-16 21:49   ` Jacob Pan
2018-04-23 11:30   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-04-23 11:30     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-04-24 18:29     ` Jacob Pan
2018-04-24 18:29       ` Jacob Pan
2018-04-30 16:53   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-04-30 16:53     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-04-30 18:54     ` Jacob Pan
2018-04-16 21:49 ` [PATCH v4 13/22] iommu: introduce page response function Jacob Pan
2018-04-16 21:49   ` Jacob Pan
2018-04-23 11:47   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-04-23 11:47     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-04-23 12:16     ` Jacob Pan
2018-04-23 12:16       ` Jacob Pan
2018-04-23 15:50       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-04-23 15:50         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-04-16 21:49 ` [PATCH v4 14/22] iommu: handle page response timeout Jacob Pan
2018-04-16 21:49   ` Jacob Pan
2018-04-23 15:36   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-04-25 15:37     ` Jacob Pan
2018-04-25 15:37       ` Jacob Pan
2018-04-30 10:58       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-04-30 10:58         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-04-30 17:54         ` Jacob Pan
2018-04-30 17:54           ` Jacob Pan
2018-04-16 21:49 ` [PATCH v4 15/22] iommu/config: add build dependency for dmar Jacob Pan
2018-04-16 21:49   ` Jacob Pan
2018-04-16 21:49 ` [PATCH v4 16/22] iommu/vt-d: report non-recoverable faults to device Jacob Pan
2018-04-16 21:49   ` Jacob Pan
2018-04-16 21:49 ` [PATCH v4 17/22] iommu/intel-svm: report device page request Jacob Pan
2018-04-16 21:49   ` Jacob Pan
2018-04-16 21:49 ` [PATCH v4 18/22] iommu/intel-svm: replace dev ops with fault report API Jacob Pan
2018-04-16 21:49   ` Jacob Pan
2018-04-16 21:49 ` [PATCH v4 19/22] iommu/intel-svm: do not flush iotlb for viommu Jacob Pan
2018-04-16 21:49   ` Jacob Pan
2018-04-16 21:49 ` [PATCH v4 20/22] iommu/vt-d: add intel iommu page response function Jacob Pan
2018-04-16 21:49   ` Jacob Pan
2018-04-16 21:49 ` [PATCH v4 21/22] trace/iommu: add sva trace events Jacob Pan
2018-04-16 21:49 ` [PATCH v4 22/22] iommu: use sva invalidate and device fault trace event Jacob Pan
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-03-23  3:11 [PATCH v4 00/22] IOMMU and VT-d driver support for Shared Virtual Address (SVA) Jacob Pan
2018-03-23  3:11 ` [PATCH v4 05/22] iommu: introduce iommu invalidate API function Jacob Pan
2018-03-23  3:11   ` Jacob Pan

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